What you're unpopular naruto opinion

[Tantalus Thief]

Jiraiya is a horrendously written character and one of the worst in the series.

why do you think this?
OP:
kishi's art peaked at the kyuubi vs oro fight.
I like the idea of Obito being tobi but could've been executed better

 

[startup98]

Hiruzen is the third strongest hokage.

 

[Nick01]

Damn Sirfapalot if something is the origin of another object or the root of it said object can't exist without it. The purpose of using the word root is to show the origin of Naruto's great Stamina is the kyubi. You've obviously missed that.

And the trolling continues. Not surprised in the slightest.
Obviously when looking at Naruto and Kurama as a whole, it's clear that Kurama holds the majority of the Stamina, however to say that without Kurama, Naruto's would be non existent, is completely and utterly illogical. This is something that you keep failing to understand. Maybe if Naruto was born with Kurama, you'd have a point, but that isn't the case here.

There's great, average and little if it's not great it's either little or average. That's not rocket science.
The scan I provided but your obviously ignoring facts sir fapalot.

So just those three classes? Are you saying that Naruto w/ Kurama would be in the same class as Jiraiya or Raikage?
Rofl.
Common sense dictates otherwise.
But trolls will be trolls, considering you keep twisting things to fit what you are saying. You call them facts, but in actuality they are fanfics made by you.

What's 100 times Naruto's chakra the kyubi yang chakra. Either you can't comprehend or you suck at maths it's all in the scan I provided.

Clearly you are the one who sucks at math and have issues with comprehension.

The 4ths seal allows a little of kurama's chakra to be added to Naruto's becoming his own. A little or 1% of the yang chakra of the kyubi is 4times that of Kakashi's. Which you conveniently ignore.

Where does it state how much leaks? The point of the 4ths seal was to allow chakra to mix with Naruto's little by little, however it's true purpose was so Naruto could control it's power.
Funny how you conveniently twist things to fit what you say, not even the scans you bring support such dumb logic.
Even if what you say is true in that regard, it doesn't change the fact that Naruto's own reserves would be higher than average. Deny it all you want.

Minato learnt sage mode as if Minato's reserves weren't large. He could summon Bunta, transport a beast ball, transport kyubi out of the village and seal it after splitting it in 1/2. He had great reserves for such feats Naruto wouldn't have those great reserves without kurama(refer back to kakashi).

Kakashi said that Naruto wouldn't have great reserves? I must've missed that. Scan of him making such a claim? If not, it's yet another one of your failed attempts at twisting things to go in line with what you say.
Naruto is the son of Minato and Kushina both who have great reserves, so it's only logical that Naruto would also possess great reserves, allowing him to learn SM, and learn other awesome techs.

Even if by some miracle he learnt sage mode it's not indefinite he'd run out of chakra relatively fast so it's game over in that department.

Not really. His chakra control would be excellent considering he wouldn't have Kurama to mess it up. Then there's the fact that he can fuse with Ma and Pa to attain continuous NE.

You're taking an anime too serious. I'm not a Sasuke, firstly. And secondly, the tiny Chakra that is naturally mixed with Naruto's, as salamander uchiha suggested, would compose the majority of Naruto's own Chakra reserves.

Yet there's no proof of that. His reserves def. wouldn't be as high, but they'd be higher than average.

Naruto himself, if he wasn't a Jinchuriki, would never achieve Sage Mode or Multi Kage Bunshin, as his natural Chakra isn't enough for taxing moves.

His reserves wouldn't be as high without Kurama, however we don't know what his exact amount would be. Multi Shadow clone makes sense, however SM does not. He'd still be very capable of learning it, as well as other useful techs.

Minato achieving Sage Mode doesn't mean Naruto can, because Minato is naturally talented and powerful; Naruto is not.

Without Kurama, nothing is hindering Naruto's chakra control, allowing him to perform techs without wasting as much chakra. For all we know, he'd be a prodigy as well like his dad. Kushina might be alive too and can teach Naruto powerful sealing techs.

I'll say it again: Naruto's strength predominately is because of Kurama, without it he's at, let's say Konohamaru so that you're not upset about it.

And I'll say it again, you are by all means wrong. You do know none of what you said is backed up by facts, right? You have absolutely no idea how things would turn out, had Naruto not been a jin. So throwing statements around like saying he'd be weak, is fanfic at best.
I could very well say that the author would give Naruto something else in place of not being a jin, whether it's a Dojutsu, KKG, or making him extremely skilled. Point is, he would still be very powerful.

 

[salamander uchiha]

And the trolling continues. Not surprised in the slightest.
Obviously when looking at Naruto and Kurama as a whole, it's clear that Kurama holds the majority of the Stamina, however to say that without Kurama, Naruto's would be non existent, is completely and utterly illogical. This is something that you keep failing to understand. Maybe if Naruto was born with Kurama, you'd have a point, but that isn't the case here.



So just those three classes? Are you saying that Naruto w/ Kurama would be in the same class as Jiraiya or Raikage?
Rofl.
Common sense dictates otherwise.
But trolls will be trolls, considering you keep twisting things to fit what you are saying. You call them facts, but in actuality they are fanfics made by you.



Clearly you are the one who sucks at math and have issues with comprehension.



Where does it state how much leaks? The point of the 4ths seal was to allow chakra to mix with Naruto's little by little, however it's true purpose was so Naruto could control it's power.
Funny how you conveniently twist things to fit what you say, not even the scans you bring support such dumb logic.
Even if what you say is true in that regard, it doesn't change the fact that Naruto's own reserves would be higher than average. Deny it all you want.




Kakashi said that Naruto wouldn't have great reserves? I must've missed that. Scan of him making such a claim? If not, it's yet another one of your failed attempts at twisting things to go in line with what you say.
Naruto is the son of Minato and Kushina both who have great reserves, so it's only logical that Naruto would also possess great reserves, allowing him to learn SM, and learn other awesome techs.



Not really. His chakra control would be excellent considering he wouldn't have Kurama to mess it up. Then there's the fact that he can fuse with Ma and Pa to attain continuous NE.



Yet there's no proof of that. His reserves def. wouldn't be as high, but they'd be higher than average.



His reserves wouldn't be as high without Kurama, however we don't know what his exact amount would be. Multi Shadow clone makes sense, however SM does not. He'd still be very capable of learning it, as well as other useful techs.



Without Kurama, nothing is hindering Naruto's chakra control, allowing him to perform techs without wasting as much chakra. For all we know, he'd be a prodigy as well like his dad. Kushina might be alive too and can teach Naruto powerful sealing techs.



And I'll say it again, you are by all means wrong. You do know none of what you said is backed up by facts, right? You have absolutely no idea how things would turn out, had Naruto not been a jin. So throwing statements around like saying he'd be weak, is fanfic at best.
I could very well say that the author would give Naruto something else in place of not being a jin, whether it's a Dojutsu, KKG, or making him extremely skilled. Point is, he would still be very powerful.

Oi sirfapalot instead of fap read the damn manga Naruto wouldn't have great stamina he'd be average deal with it. Trying to put his stamina in the same category as Jiraiya and raikage who had naturally huge reserves refer back to the databook typical fapper using Abc logic to justify his fap. There stamina is great or above average. Like I said if the kyubi is at its root Naruto doesn't have great chakra reserves without it he falls into the average group. Had he had great reefed without it he'd be above average.

It's true I don't know how much actually leaks and mixes I used 1% to be extremely conservative it could be even higher. What is known it's great enough(yet little to the kyubi) to give Naruto great chakra reserves enough so to form multiple shadow clones etc. Something a shinobi with average chakra reserves (kakashi)can't do. Without the kyubi's stamina he'd have averge chakra reserves .

As for kushina there's no proof he'd have great reserves thats pure fap on your part and Kakashi made it clear the kyubi is behind those great reserves. So by logic without kyubi his reserves would be great and you've got nothing to back this fap when with the kyubi he managed to get to 4 times Kakashi's.

Now being the son of somebody doesn't mean you inherit from them refer back to the coveraation the sage had with Naruto and pretty much confirmed that.

Like I said sage mode isn't continous it depends on how much chakra you have once your out your out even with Ma and Pa. So he wouldn't last very long.

 

[ProGun]

It seems to me Naruto went a long while refusing to use any of the nine tails chakra and he did fine. Naruto developed and created styles and finesse moves that are him... the nine tails is just pure sledgehammer WHAM style of overwhelming power with no such nuance. as for the ability to make clones... Konohamaru matched him clone for clone in the Chunin exam OVA. Sure Naruto's clones had enough extra chakra to make rasengan as well, but Konohamaru was able to make enough fodders to soak all that damage and that's impressive and shows what is possible even for a young one.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Mangafacts or filler?

 

[Team7monaa]

Tsunade is stronger than the hokage before after her (Minato and Kakashi)

 

[Edogawa]

Yet there's no proof of that. His reserves def. wouldn't be as high, but they'd be higher than average.

There is no helping you at this point.

 

[whiteboy2345]

There is no helping you at this point.

Isn't the concept of Uzumaki's having massive reserves just conjecture?

 

[salamander uchiha]

Isn't the concept of Uzumaki's having massive reserves just conjecture?

Yes they were however renowned for strong lifeforce.

 

[Nick01]

Oi sirfapalot instead of fap read the damn manga Naruto wouldn't have great stamina he'd be average deal with it.

Why don't you look in the mirror and say that. Since you are the fap/troll who has yet to fully read the damn manga and instead resorts to using half assed info. Also using fanfic to justify what is being said. That is your forte right?
Naruto with Kurama = Extraordinary Stamina
Naruto without Kurama = Above Average Stamina.
Deal with it.

Trying to put his stamina in the same category as Jiraiya and raikage who had naturally huge reserves refer back to the databook typical fapper using Abc logic to justify his fap.

This idiot. :lol
You're the one trying to put everyone's reserves in NV into 3 specific categories, which is unfair to other characters.
Try again faptard.

There stamina is great or above average. Like I said if the kyubi is at its root Naruto doesn't have great chakra reserves without it he falls into the average group. Had he had great reefed without it he'd be above average.

Again, no proof huh. Not surprised.
When looking at Naruto and Kurama as a whole, it's clear that Kurama possesses the majority of the stamina. Taking Kurama out of the equation, Naruto is left with above average reserves. The sooner you accept this truth, the sooner you can move ahead from your fanfic tales.

It's true I don't know how much actually leaks and mixes I used 1% to be extremely conservative it could be even higher. What is known it's great enough(yet little to the kyubi) to give Naruto great chakra reserves enough so to form multiple shadow clones etc. Something a shinobi with average chakra reserves (kakashi)can't do. Without the kyubi's stamina he'd have averge chakra reserves .

Arguing this, is completely pointless, since a Naruto without the Kyubi doesn't exist and there's no telling exactly whether his reserves would be average(Kakashi) or above average(Jiraiya). I'm leaning towards the most plausible option which is above average, but considerably lower than Naruto w/ Kyubi.

As for kushina there's no proof he'd have great reserves thats pure fap on your part and Kakashi made it clear the kyubi is behind those great reserves.

Nope, it's pure denial on your part and Kakashi made it clear that the majority of the overall stamina is due to the Kyubi. Still he never said his reserves would be average or less without the Kyubi. That's all made up fanfic on you.

So by logic without kyubi his reserves would be great and you've got nothing to back this fap when with the kyubi he managed to get to 4 times Kakashi's.

Funny you say that, yet you having 'nothing', to say his reserves at best would be average. Don't kid yourself now. It's very plausible that without the Kyubi he'd have 2 times Kakashi's. Then there's the fact that Kurama won't be their to mess with his Chakra control, allowing him to do more with less.

Now being the son of somebody doesn't mean you inherit from them refer back to the coveraation the sage had with Naruto and pretty much confirmed that.

Yet Kurama had this to say in regards to Naruto and Kushina. :lol

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Obviously him having her blood helped. He also lasted a bit after having the Nine tails extracted from him, hinting that he still had impressive life force despite not being 100% Uzumaki.

Like I said sage mode isn't continous it depends on how much chakra you have once your out your out even with Ma and Pa. So he wouldn't last very long.

He wouldn't last as long as he would currently. However it'd more than likely be comparable to Jiraiya.

There is no helping you at this point.

Well good thing I have no need for it.

Same can't be said regarding you and Salacancer.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Why don't you look in the mirror and say that. Since you are the fap/troll who has yet to fully read the damn manga and instead resorts to using half assed info. Also using fanfic to justify what is being said. That is your forte right?
Naruto with Kurama = Extraordinary Stamina
Naruto without Kurama = Above Average Stamina.
Deal with it.



This idiot. :lol
You're the one trying to put everyone's reserves in NV into 3 specific categories, which is unfair to other characters.
Try again faptard.



Again, no proof huh. Not surprised.
When looking at Naruto and Kurama as a whole, it's clear that Kurama possesses the majority of the stamina. Taking Kurama out of the equation, Naruto is left with above average reserves. The sooner you accept this truth, the sooner you can move ahead from your fanfic tales.



Arguing this, is completely pointless, since a Naruto without the Kyubi doesn't exist and there's no telling exactly whether his reserves would be average(Kakashi) or above average(Jiraiya). I'm leaning towards the most plausible option which is above average, but considerably lower than Naruto w/ Kyubi.




Nope, it's pure denial on your part and Kakashi made it clear that the majority of the overall stamina is due to the Kyubi. Still he never said his reserves would be average or less without the Kyubi. That's all made up fanfic on you.



Funny you say that, yet you having 'nothing', to say his reserves at best would be average. Don't kid yourself now. It's very plausible that without the Kyubi he'd have 2 times Kakashi's. Then there's the fact that Kurama won't be their to mess with his Chakra control, allowing him to do more with less.



Yet Kurama had this to say in regards to Naruto and Kushina. :lol

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Obviously him having her blood helped. He also lasted a bit after having the Nine tails extracted from him, hinting that he still had impressive life force despite not being 100% Uzumaki.



He wouldn't last as long as he would currently. However it'd more than likely be comparable to Jiraiya.



Well good thing I have no need for it.

Same can't be said regarding you and Salacancer.

Damn sir fapalot you've hit new heights of fappery

Naruto with kurama = great chakra reserves
Naruto without kurama = not great chakra reserves.

Let's look at the definition of Great shall we since you overly fapping and lost in your own hubris.

great

ɡreɪt/

adjective

1.

of an extent, amount, or intensity considerably above average.

As you can see great means above average if it's not great it's average or below.

The sooner you accept this fact then you can move on.

Kakashi made it clear that the root of the great Stamina is the kyubi. Kishi expected you to understand it wouldn't be great/Above average without it. Common sense really.

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The Kushina's blood statement is actually weightless since she didn't link so much chakra or anything. She sealed away the 9 tails and forgot about it. If it's to be taken seriously it's to be taken as she was kurama's host and that had an influence on Naruto and then he became it's jinchuriki he was already adapted to it. And him becoming a jin was easier etc.

Now with the meaning of great clear Naruto wouldn't last very long with sage mode since if it's not great/Above average it's average or below. And Jiraiya is clearly above average to even be able to use sage mode.

Incase you've forgotten the definition of great I'll post it once again.

great

ɡreɪt/

adjective

1.

of an extent, amount, or intensity considerably above average.

Enjoy

 

[Jinrou]

The sand village had no Jounins (apart from Baki) as opposed to other villages who had at least other fodder Jounin shown because Gaara killed them all while they wanted to stop him from rampaging :lol

 

[Dreckerplayer]

Title....

Adult naruto has no real necessary placement in the current anime series.

 

[Edogawa]

Isn't the concept of Uzumaki's having massive reserves just conjecture?

A conjecture based on fanfic. Uzumaki's were only known for their strong life-force and powerful sealing techniques. That's only it. The only character from the Uzumaki that had natural stupidly monstrous Chakra levels was Nagato. Kushina and Karin had powerful Chakra's, but they weren't massive. Naruto's massive Chakra was only because Minato designed Fuinjutsu that made a small Chakra from Kurama naturally mix with Naruto's own.

 

[Nick01]

Damn sir fapalot you've hit new heights of fappery

Rofl. Nah that's all you buddy. Keep the fanfics coming.

Naruto with kurama = great chakra reserves
Naruto without kurama = not great chakra reserves.

Naruto with Kurama = Extraordinary Chakra Reserves
Naruto without Kurama = Great Charka Reserves.

Let's look at the definition of Great shall we since you overly fapping and lost in your own hubris.

Hardly. No need for the definition, I know it all to well. Unlike you, basically making that the highest bar for everyone in NV.
Such a pity.

great

ɡreɪt/

adjective

1.

of an extent, amount, or intensity considerably above average.

As you can see great means above average if it's not great it's average or below.

Will you look at that. Naruto would indeed possess great reserves.

The sooner you accept this fact then you can move on.

Ehh, I've moved on, the exact moment I rekt this argument on day one. Apparently it's you who can't accept the facts nor move on.

Kakashi made it clear that the root of the great Stamina is the kyubi. Kishi expected you to understand it wouldn't be great/Above average without it. Common sense really.

He was saying that when you look at Naruto and Kurama as a whole, the Kyubi is the one possessing the majority. He never said that Naruto's reserves would be average, unless you have a scan of him implying that. Common sense dictates that Naruto's reserves would still be great, just not as great as it'd be w/ Kurama.

The sage says

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The Kushina's blood statement is actually weightless since she didn't link so much chakra or anything.

Not weightless at all. Refer to the scan I provided of Kurama.
As for what the sage said, for all we know, he mean't that Naruto didn't inherit Minato's intelligence nor Kushina's special chakra, which makes sense considering Naruto isn't full Uzumaki. To say he didn't inherit anything from them is foolish.

She sealed away the 9 tails and forgot about it.

I'm sure Kurama didn't forget. You don't simply forget about having the most powerful tailed beast inside of you, especially when it's hatred incarnate.

If it's to be taken seriously it's to be taken as she was kurama's host and that had an influence on Naruto and then he became it's jinchuriki he was already adapted to it. And him becoming a jin was easier etc.

I'm willing to agree with this. Still becoming a jin is no walk in the park.

Now with the meaning of great clear Naruto wouldn't last very long with sage mode since if it's not great/Above average it's average or below. And Jiraiya is clearly above average to even be able to use sage mode.

He'd be on Jiraiya's level in terms of chakra reserves, which would allow him to effectively use Sage Mode.

Incase you've forgotten the definition of great I'll post it once again.

great

ɡreɪt/

adjective

1.

of an extent, amount, or intensity considerably above average.

Enjoy

Guess I'll also repeat what I said above.

"Will you look at that. Naruto would indeed possess great reserves. ”

 

[salamander uchiha]

Rofl. Nah that's all you buddy. Keep the fanfics coming.



Naruto with Kurama = Extraordinary Chakra Reserves
Naruto without Kurama = Great Charka Reserves.



Hardly. No need for the definition, I know it all to well. Unlike you, basically making that the highest bar for everyone in NV.
Such a pity.



Will you look at that. Naruto would indeed possess great reserves.



Ehh, I've moved on, the exact moment I rekt this argument on day one. Apparently it's you who can't accept the facts nor move on.



He was saying that when you look at Naruto and Kurama as a whole, the Kyubi is the one possessing the majority. He never said that Naruto's reserves would be average, unless you have a scan of him implying that. Common sense dictates that Naruto's reserves would still be great, just not as great as it'd be w/ Kurama.



Not weightless at all. Refer to the scan I provided of Kurama.
As for what the sage said, for all we know, he mean't that Naruto didn't inherit Minato's intelligence nor Kushina's special chakra, which makes sense considering Naruto isn't full Uzumaki. To say he didn't inherit anything from them is foolish.



I'm sure Kurama didn't forget. You don't simply forget about having the most powerful tailed beast inside of you, especially when it's hatred incarnate.



I'm willing to agree with this. Still becoming a jin is no walk in the park.



He'd be on Jiraiya's level in terms of chakra reserves, which would allow him to effectively use Sage Mode.



Guess I'll also repeat what I said above.

"Will you look at that. Naruto would indeed possess great reserves. ”

Since i see nothing but fap, changing of mangawords to suit your own definitions and denial of mangafacts Concession accepted.

 

[Nick01]

Since i see nothing but fap/fanfic from myself, changing of mangawords to suit my own definitions and denial of mangafacts. I concede to your undeniable facts.

Well it's about time.

Then I shall accept your concession.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Well it's about time I concede and I'll try not spread fapfic

Concession accepted

 

[Nick01]

Well it's about time.

Then I shall accept your concession.

Well I figured it's about time I concede and I'll try not spread fapfic

Awesome. Anyway concession accepted.