Tantalus Thief
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why do you think this?
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kishi's art peaked at the kyuubi vs oro fight.
I like the idea of Obito being tobi but could've been executed better
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kishi's art peaked at the kyuubi vs oro fight.
I like the idea of Obito being tobi but could've been executed better
And the trolling continues. Not surprised in the slightest.
Obviously when looking at Naruto and Kurama as a whole, it's clear that Kurama holds the majority of the Stamina, however to say that without Kurama, Naruto's would be non existent, is completely and utterly illogical. This is something that you keep failing to understand. Maybe if Naruto was born with Kurama, you'd have a point, but that isn't the case here.
So just those three classes? Are you saying that Naruto w/ Kurama would be in the same class as Jiraiya or Raikage?
Rofl.
Common sense dictates otherwise.
But trolls will be trolls, considering you keep twisting things to fit what you are saying. You call them facts, but in actuality they are fanfics made by you.
Clearly you are the one who sucks at math and have issues with comprehension.
Where does it state how much leaks? The point of the 4ths seal was to allow chakra to mix with Naruto's little by little, however it's true purpose was so Naruto could control it's power.
Funny how you conveniently twist things to fit what you say, not even the scans you bring support such dumb logic.
Even if what you say is true in that regard, it doesn't change the fact that Naruto's own reserves would be higher than average. Deny it all you want.
Kakashi said that Naruto wouldn't have great reserves? I must've missed that. Scan of him making such a claim? If not, it's yet another one of your failed attempts at twisting things to go in line with what you say.
Naruto is the son of Minato and Kushina both who have great reserves, so it's only logical that Naruto would also possess great reserves, allowing him to learn SM, and learn other awesome techs.
Not really. His chakra control would be excellent considering he wouldn't have Kurama to mess it up. Then there's the fact that he can fuse with Ma and Pa to attain continuous NE.
Yet there's no proof of that. His reserves def. wouldn't be as high, but they'd be higher than average.
His reserves wouldn't be as high without Kurama, however we don't know what his exact amount would be. Multi Shadow clone makes sense, however SM does not. He'd still be very capable of learning it, as well as other useful techs.
Without Kurama, nothing is hindering Naruto's chakra control, allowing him to perform techs without wasting as much chakra. For all we know, he'd be a prodigy as well like his dad. Kushina might be alive too and can teach Naruto powerful sealing techs.
And I'll say it again, you are by all means wrong. You do know none of what you said is backed up by facts, right? You have absolutely no idea how things would turn out, had Naruto not been a jin. So throwing statements around like saying he'd be weak, is fanfic at best.
I could very well say that the author would give Naruto something else in place of not being a jin, whether it's a Dojutsu, KKG, or making him extremely skilled. Point is, he would still be very powerful.
salamander uchiha
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Oi sirfapalot instead of fap read the damn manga Naruto wouldn't have great stamina he'd be average deal with it. Trying to put his stamina in the same category as Jiraiya and raikage who had naturally huge reserves refer back to the databook typical fapper using Abc logic to justify his fap. There stamina is great or above average. Like I said if the kyubi is at its root Naruto doesn't have great chakra reserves without it he falls into the average group. Had he had great reefed without it he'd be above average.
It's true I don't know how much actually leaks and mixes I used 1% to be extremely conservative it could be even higher. What is known it's great enough(yet little to the kyubi) to give Naruto great chakra reserves enough so to form multiple shadow clones etc. Something a shinobi with average chakra reserves (kakashi)can't do. Without the kyubi's stamina he'd have averge chakra reserves .
As for kushina there's no proof he'd have great reserves thats pure fap on your part and Kakashi made it clear the kyubi is behind those great reserves. So by logic without kyubi his reserves would be great and you've got nothing to back this fap when with the kyubi he managed to get to 4 times Kakashi's.
Now being the son of somebody doesn't mean you inherit from them refer back to the coveraation the sage had with Naruto and pretty much confirmed that.
Like I said sage mode isn't continous it depends on how much chakra you have once your out your out even with Ma and Pa. So he wouldn't last very long.
It seems to me Naruto went a long while refusing to use any of the nine tails chakra and he did fine. Naruto developed and created styles and finesse moves that are him... the nine tails is just pure sledgehammer WHAM style of overwhelming power with no such nuance. as for the ability to make clones... Konohamaru matched him clone for clone in the Chunin exam OVA. Sure Naruto's clones had enough extra chakra to make rasengan as well, but Konohamaru was able to make enough fodders to soak all that damage and that's impressive and shows what is possible even for a young one.
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salamander uchiha
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Why don't you look in the mirror and say that. Since you are the fap/troll who has yet to fully read the damn manga and instead resorts to using half assed info. Also using fanfic to justify what is being said. That is your forte right?Naruto with Kurama = Extraordinary Stamina
Naruto without Kurama = Above Average Stamina.
Deal with it.
This idiot. :lol
You're the one trying to put everyone's reserves in NV into 3 specific categories, which is unfair to other characters.
Try again faptard.
Again, no proof huh. Not surprised.
When looking at Naruto and Kurama as a whole, it's clear that Kurama possesses the majority of the stamina. Taking Kurama out of the equation, Naruto is left with above average reserves. The sooner you accept this truth, the sooner you can move ahead from your fanfic tales.
Arguing this, is completely pointless, since a Naruto without the Kyubi doesn't exist and there's no telling exactly whether his reserves would be average(Kakashi) or above average(Jiraiya). I'm leaning towards the most plausible option which is above average, but considerably lower than Naruto w/ Kyubi.
Nope, it's pure denial on your part and Kakashi made it clear that the majority of the overall stamina is due to the Kyubi. Still he never said his reserves would be average or less without the Kyubi. That's all made up fanfic on you.
Funny you say that, yet you having 'nothing', to say his reserves at best would be average. Don't kid yourself now. It's very plausible that without the Kyubi he'd have 2 times Kakashi's. Then there's the fact that Kurama won't be their to mess with his Chakra control, allowing him to do more with less.
Yet Kurama had this to say in regards to Naruto and Kushina. :lol
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He wouldn't last as long as he would currently. However it'd more than likely be comparable to Jiraiya.
Well good thing I have no need for it.
Same can't be said regarding you and Salacancer.
salamander uchiha
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Damn sir fapalot you've hit new heights of fappery
Naruto with Kurama = Extraordinary Stamina
Naruto without Kurama = Above Average Stamina.
Deal with it.
This idiot. :lol
You're the one trying to put everyone's reserves in NV into 3 specific categories, which is unfair to other characters.
Try again faptard.
Again, no proof huh. Not surprised.
When looking at Naruto and Kurama as a whole, it's clear that Kurama possesses the majority of the stamina. Taking Kurama out of the equation, Naruto is left with above average reserves. The sooner you accept this truth, the sooner you can move ahead from your fanfic tales.
Arguing this, is completely pointless, since a Naruto without the Kyubi doesn't exist and there's no telling exactly whether his reserves would be average(Kakashi) or above average(Jiraiya). I'm leaning towards the most plausible option which is above average, but considerably lower than Naruto w/ Kyubi.
Nope, it's pure denial on your part and Kakashi made it clear that the majority of the overall stamina is due to the Kyubi. Still he never said his reserves would be average or less without the Kyubi. That's all made up fanfic on you.
Funny you say that, yet you having 'nothing', to say his reserves at best would be average. Don't kid yourself now. It's very plausible that without the Kyubi he'd have 2 times Kakashi's. Then there's the fact that Kurama won't be their to mess with his Chakra control, allowing him to do more with less.
Yet Kurama had this to say in regards to Naruto and Kushina. :lol
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He wouldn't last as long as he would currently. However it'd more than likely be comparable to Jiraiya.
Well good thing I have no need for it.
Same can't be said regarding you and Salacancer.
Naruto with kurama = great chakra reserves
Naruto without kurama = not great chakra reserves.
Let's look at the definition of Great shall we since you overly fapping and lost in your own hubris.
great
ɡreɪt/
adjective
1.
of an extent, amount, or intensity considerably above average.
As you can see great means above average if it's not great it's average or below.
The sooner you accept this fact then you can move on.
Kakashi made it clear that the root of the great Stamina is the kyubi. Kishi expected you to understand it wouldn't be great/Above average without it. Common sense really.
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The Kushina's blood statement is actually weightless since she didn't link so much chakra or anything. She sealed away the 9 tails and forgot about it. If it's to be taken seriously it's to be taken as she was kurama's host and that had an influence on Naruto and then he became it's jinchuriki he was already adapted to it. And him becoming a jin was easier etc.
Now with the meaning of great clear Naruto wouldn't last very long with sage mode since if it's not great/Above average it's average or below. And Jiraiya is clearly above average to even be able to use sage mode.
Incase you've forgotten the definition of great I'll post it once again.
great
ɡreɪt/
adjective
1.
of an extent, amount, or intensity considerably above average.
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The sand village had no Jounins (apart from Baki) as opposed to other villages who had at least other fodder Jounin shown because Gaara killed them all while they wanted to stop him from rampaging :lol
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A conjecture based on fanfic. Uzumaki's were only known for their strong life-force and powerful sealing techniques. That's only it. The only character from the Uzumaki that had natural stupidly monstrous Chakra levels was Nagato. Kushina and Karin had powerful Chakra's, but they weren't massive. Naruto's massive Chakra was only because Minato designed Fuinjutsu that made a small Chakra from Kurama naturally mix with Naruto's own.
Rofl. Nah that's all you buddy. Keep the fanfics coming.
Naruto with Kurama = Extraordinary Chakra Reserves
Naruto without Kurama = Great Charka Reserves.
Hardly. No need for the definition, I know it all to well. Unlike you, basically making that the highest bar for everyone in NV.
Such a pity.
Will you look at that. Naruto would indeed possess great reserves.
Ehh, I've moved on, the exact moment I rekt this argument on day one. Apparently it's you who can't accept the facts nor move on.
He was saying that when you look at Naruto and Kurama as a whole, the Kyubi is the one possessing the majority. He never said that Naruto's reserves would be average, unless you have a scan of him implying that. Common sense dictates that Naruto's reserves would still be great, just not as great as it'd be w/ Kurama.
Not weightless at all. Refer to the scan I provided of Kurama.
As for what the sage said, for all we know, he mean't that Naruto didn't inherit Minato's intelligence nor Kushina's special chakra, which makes sense considering Naruto isn't full Uzumaki. To say he didn't inherit anything from them is foolish.
I'm sure Kurama didn't forget. You don't simply forget about having the most powerful tailed beast inside of you, especially when it's hatred incarnate.
I'm willing to agree with this. Still becoming a jin is no walk in the park.
He'd be on Jiraiya's level in terms of chakra reserves, which would allow him to effectively use Sage Mode.
Guess I'll also repeat what I said above.
"Will you look at that. Naruto would indeed possess great reserves.
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salamander uchiha
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Since i see nothing but fap, changing of mangawords to suit your own definitions and denial of mangafacts Concession accepted.Rofl. Nah that's all you buddy. Keep the fanfics coming.
Naruto with Kurama = Extraordinary Chakra Reserves
Naruto without Kurama = Great Charka Reserves.
Hardly. No need for the definition, I know it all to well. Unlike you, basically making that the highest bar for everyone in NV.
Such a pity.
Will you look at that. Naruto would indeed possess great reserves.
Ehh, I've moved on, the exact moment I rekt this argument on day one. Apparently it's you who can't accept the facts nor move on.
He was saying that when you look at Naruto and Kurama as a whole, the Kyubi is the one possessing the majority. He never said that Naruto's reserves would be average, unless you have a scan of him implying that. Common sense dictates that Naruto's reserves would still be great, just not as great as it'd be w/ Kurama.
Not weightless at all. Refer to the scan I provided of Kurama.
As for what the sage said, for all we know, he mean't that Naruto didn't inherit Minato's intelligence nor Kushina's special chakra, which makes sense considering Naruto isn't full Uzumaki. To say he didn't inherit anything from them is foolish.
I'm sure Kurama didn't forget. You don't simply forget about having the most powerful tailed beast inside of you, especially when it's hatred incarnate.
I'm willing to agree with this. Still becoming a jin is no walk in the park.
He'd be on Jiraiya's level in terms of chakra reserves, which would allow him to effectively use Sage Mode.
Guess I'll also repeat what I said above.
"Will you look at that. Naruto would indeed possess great reserves.
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salamander uchiha
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Awesome. Anyway concession accepted.Well I figured it's about time I concede and I'll try not spread fapficWell it's about time.
Then I shall accept your concession.