What would you rank Hiashi, Chiyp, and Kitsuchi?

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I think Hiashi is a little overrated. Like he has the same exact moves as Neji, only he's a little more rounded. I think he would be like a top of the line jounin, but not low kage as many people say he is.

I would rank Kitsuchi top of the line jounin too. I mean ik he showed an OP tech (earth sandwich), but he doesn't really have any other powerful jutsu or any hype to say otherwise. If he didn't have Earth Sandwich he'd be like mid jounin. It's because of the tech I put him a little bit above high jounin, but not exactly low kage.

I think Chiyo is low kage level. 10 of the best puppets at once equipped with poison, traps, her suction tech, sealing tech, knowledge, experience, she is pretty underrated if you ask me.



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Why do you keep on creating this same thread? Anyways, I'm going to enlighten you one last time. And if you still believe Kitsuchi is jounin level then whatever, I don't think anyone can convince you as you're dead set on him being jounin caliber.

With very limited feats:


  • Long Rang
    I don't believe I need to elaborate on his Earth Sandwich technique and how OP it is.

  • Short Range
    Little to no short range feats, but he is the commander of the short-range division which suggests he is very skilled in this category.

  • Stamina
    Has the chakra capacity to use Doton on such a massive scale, that it is more then double the size of the Gedo Mazo [ ] and a little bigger then the Jubi [ ] which pretty much any Biju. Not only that, but he never showed any sign of fatigued. So it's very safe to say he has Biju level chakra reserves and a 5/5 in the DB in this category.

  • Intelligence
    Being appointed commander over the shinobi alliance suggests that he is very intelligent, as is the other commanders (Kakashi, Gaara, Darui, and Mifune) whom are all highly intelligent. He also seems to be quite experienced as he saved Darui (Who is Elite Jounin Caliber) twice and was able to gauge out the current situation and command two divisions here at once [ ]. So based on this alone, I'd say his intelligence score in the DB would be 4-4.5/5.

  • Speed
    He doesn't have any speed feats other then when he saved Darui on two occasions. One where he carried Darui out of the Ghedo Mazo's stomping range [ - ] and the other when he intercepted a V2 Kinkaku from hitting Darui [ - ]. A 3.5/5 is appropriate.

  • Strength
    Again, not very many feats other then knocking a V2 Kinkaku back and killing a white Zetsu with his bare-hands [ ] a feat shared with the 4th Raikage. I'd say a solid 4/5 in strength.
Does this describe a Jounin? Like, honestly...? A Jounin with Biju level chakra reserves, OP ninjutsu, highly intelligent, hyped to be highly skilled in CQC, with decent strength and speed? Not at all. If you're only considering feats, Kitsuchi is low-kage tier at the very least. If you're going to include hype as well (which you did all over your tier list) then Kitsuchi is nothing short of low-medium Kage tier along with Tsunade, Mei, etc.

As for Chiyo and Hiashi; Chiyo is Elite-Jounin and Hiashi is low-kage IMO.
 
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Why do you keep on creating this same thread? Anyways, I'm going to enlighten you one last time. And if you still believe Kitsuchi is jounin level then whatever, I don't think anyone can convince you as you're dead set on him being jounin caliber.

With very limited feats:


  • Long Rang
    I don't believe I need to elaborate on his Earth Sandwich technique and how OP it is.

  • Short Range
    Little to no short range feats, but he is the commander of the short-range division which suggests he is very skilled in this category.

  • Stamina
    Has the chakra capacity to use Doton on such a massive scale, that it is more then double the size of the Gedo Mazo [ ] and a little bigger then the Jubi [ ] which pretty much any Biju. Not only that, but he never showed any sign of fatigued. So it's very safe to say he has Biju level chakra reserves and a 5/5 in the DB in this category.

  • Intelligence
    Being appointed commander over the shinobi alliance suggests that he is very intelligent, as is the other commanders (Kakashi, Gaara, Darui, and Mifune) whom are all highly intelligent. He also seems to be quite experienced as he saved Darui (Who is Elite Jounin Caliber) twice and was able to gauge out the current situation and command two divisions here at once [ ]. So based on this alone, I'd say his intelligence score in the DB would be 4-4.5/5.

  • Speed
    He doesn't have any speed feats other then when he saved Darui on two occasions. One where he carried Darui out of the Ghedo Mazo's stomping range [ - ] and the other when he intercepted a V2 Kinkaku from hitting Darui [ - ]. A 3.5/5 is appropriate.

  • Strength
    Again, not very many feats other then knocking a V2 Kinkaku back and killing a white Zetsu with his bare-hands [ ] a feat shared with the 4th Raikage. I'd say a solid 4/5 in strength.
Does this describe a Jounin? Like, honestly...? A Jounin with Biju level chakra reserves, OP ninjutsu, highly intelligent, hyped to be highly skilled in CQC, with decent strength and speed? Not at all. If you're only considering feats, Kitsuchi is low-kage tier at the very least. If you're going to include hype as well (which you did all over your tier list) then Kitsuchi is nothing short of low-medium Kage tier along with Tsunade, Mei, etc.

As for Chiyo and Hiashi; Chiyo is Elite-Jounin and Hiashi is low-kage IMO.
So Chiyo is elite jounin, but Kitsuchi is low Kage..... flaw right there.

U keep saying I'm calling him jounin level. I'm calling him Top of the line Jounin tier, a tier higher than high jounin but lower than low kage, right in the middle with Darui, Kimimaro, Chiyo, etc.
 

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So Chiyo is elite jounin, but Kitsuchi is low Kage..... flaw right there.

U keep saying I'm calling him jounin level. I'm calling him Top of the line Jounin tier, a tier higher than high jounin but lower than low kage, right in the middle with Darui, Kimimaro, Chiyo, etc.
Because Kitsuchi doesn't have the capability of one-shotting her effortlessly anytime he pleases? She's not even in his league.

Once again you have said nothing that suggests that Kitsuchi isn't Kage tier. I won't be wasting my time with this anymore.
 

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Because Kitsuchi doesn't have the capability of one-shotting her effortlessly anytime he pleases? She's not even in his league.

Once again you have said nothing that suggests that Kitsuchi isn't Kage tier. I won't be wasting my time with this anymore.
Have you noticed that Kitsuchi only used earth sandwich like 50 m away? If his enemy makes it close range they can beat him. If chiyo gets in mid range she beats Kitsuchi, Zabuza even beats Kitsuchi from short-mid range.

You're telling me since he has 1 OP tech, decent speed and strength, and is supposedly skilled in short distance, he is kage level. Doesn't it just seem a tad bit far fetched? Like I thought top of the line jounin fit him because he can beat nearly all jounins, but can't beat any Kage's.

You are convincing me tho believe me. Why do u think I keep making these threads lol
 

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Have you noticed that Kitsuchi only used earth sandwich like 50 m away? If his enemy makes it close range they can beat him. If chiyo gets in mid range she beats Kitsuchi, Zabuza even beats Kitsuchi from short-mid range.

You're telling me since he has 1 OP tech, decent speed and strength, and is supposedly skilled in short distance, he is kage level. Doesn't it just seem a tad bit far fetched? Like I thought top of the line jounin fit him because he can beat nearly all jounins, but can't beat any Kage's.

You are convincing me tho believe me. Why do u think I keep making these threads lol

His ability to manipulate the earth is rivaled only by the Tsuchikage. You really have no idea what he can do huh? FT only listed the basics, but if you add the ability to do as he please with the ground at will.. Rape city 101!
 

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Have you noticed that Kitsuchi only used earth sandwich like 50 m away? If his enemy makes it close range they can beat him. If chiyo gets in mid range she beats Kitsuchi, Zabuza even beats Kitsuchi from short-mid range.

You're telling me since he has 1 OP tech, decent speed and strength, and is supposedly skilled in short distance, he is kage level. Doesn't it just seem a tad bit far fetched? Like I thought top of the line jounin fit him because he can beat nearly all jounins, but can't beat any Kage's.

You are convincing me tho believe me. Why do u think I keep making these threads lol
Have you noticed Kitsuchi has very limited manga panel time which has only been shown while fighting human dwarfing targets? He said himself that he specializes in this technique which suggests he uses it quite a lot. Are you suggesting he's incapable of using it in a much smaller scale from medium range? Kitsuchi shits all over Chiyo who is a stationary fighter. She has no chance of beating him.

Yes, supposedly Kitsuchi was made commander of the short-range division because of his lack of skill in it. Makes sense right? Keeping in mind he has very limited feats, he can beat a few kage level shinobi such as Mei and Old Hiruzen. He's mainly hype. Which, once again, you included all over your tier list.

His ability to manipulate the earth is rivaled only by the Tsuchikage. You really have no idea what he can do huh? FT only listed the basics, but if you add the ability to do as he please with the ground at will.. Rape city 101!
In addition to his Biju level chakra reserves! Lmao @ anything below Low-Kage level
 
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Have you noticed Kitsuchi has very limited manga panel time which has only been shown while fighting human dwarfing targets? He said himself that he specializes in this technique which suggests he uses it quite a lot. Are you suggesting he's incapable of using it in a much smaller scale from medium range? Kitsuchi shits all over Chiyo who is a stationary fighter. She has no chance of beating him.

Yes, supposedly Kitsuchi was made commander of the short-range division because of his lack of skill in it. Makes sense right? Keeping in mind he has very limited feats, he can beat a few kage level shinobi such as Mei and Old Hiruzen. He's mainly hype. Which, once again, you included all over your tier list.



In addition to his Biju level chakra reserves! Lmao @ anything below Low-Kage level
He is in denial.., he keeps tryna convince others that what he thinks is correct (Zabuza equal with the ninjas he keep listing). It's all about zabuza when it's said and done. He keeps talking about "tier list" but keep listing the same ninjas in the last 7 threads he has created (guessing 7.lol). Why not other characters? See what I mean?
 

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He is in denial.., he keeps tryna convince others that what he thinks is correct (Zabuza equal with the ninjas he keep listing). It's all about zabuza when it's said and done. He keeps talking about "tier list" but keep listing the same ninjas in the last 7 threads he has created (guessing 7.lol). Why not other characters? See what I mean?
Yup, exactly lol. I said pretty much the same thing in one of his other 20 threads. The characters he asks about are the ones he believes are somewhere around Zabuzas level. I think he's just having a tough time accepting the fact that Kitsuchi is that far above Zabuza is all.
 

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1. Kitsuchi
2. Hiashi
3. Lady Chiyo

I just finished watching the long fight between Chiyo and Sakura against Sasori so I know where she stands. These two are right on par if not a bit stronger than her so they all belong in the same tier IMO. Maybe not Chiyo. But both beat her medium difficulty...

And I recommend you stop making the same set of threads over and over again. You are a smart guy so use your own judgement, not what other people tell you to do.
 

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Yup, exactly lol. I said pretty much the same thing in one of his other 20 threads. The characters he asks about are the ones he believes are somewhere around Zabuzas level. I think he's just having a tough time accepting the fact that Kitsuchi is that far above Zabuza is all.
And kimmi, and hiashi, and konan, and mangetsu, and the rest. Lmao he just needs to accept and move on to other characters. But his love for zabuza is unrivaled and he is stuck in his loop.
 

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1) Hiashi - Low-kage. I considered his hype as the leader of the Hyuga clan (which is said to be the strongest in Konoha) and his abilities too ofc.

2) Kitsuchi - High-jonin. Courtesy of his sandwich jutsu and good feats while having a limited screen time.

3) Chiyo - High-jonin. Not enough firepower to be considered any higher imo.
 
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