Hashirama only had SM and wood style, so of course there is a huge gap between Juubi Obito... When I listed those techniques/modes I was listing them to be used in simultaneously.
Juubito and Hashirama's gap was large because Juubito was way too powerful. Not because he only had SM and Wood Release.
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Being used simultaneously still wouldn't amount up to being able to fight a Six Paths user like Naruto. You would need proof that backs up that theory/assertion to be valid.
It had not been proven that they couldn't be used together nor that they could be, so I suppose it is just a 'what if'. But this whole thread is purely speculation anyway.
Bold: This thread being pure speculation makes it even more invalid. You asserted that if a shinobi use all the mentioned techniques, they would possibly match or take down a Rikudou shinobi like Naruto. Even worse that there is no valid evidence to back up your claims.
Mastery of all six natures and possessing every last jutsu associated with these natures ensures battle versatility and obviously increasing the users power alot.
Based on what? Kakashi copied over a thousand jutsus has four-five basic natures. However, when he fought against enemies like Obito and Pain, he used almost nothing but Raikiri variants, Kamui, Earth Wall, and other main attacks. Another example was when DMS Kakashi didn't use the other techniques when he was attacking Kaguya. Having multiple techniques doesn't mean anything if a majority aren't going to work against higher tiers. Let alone Six Paths tiers such as Naruto himself.
EMS Madara has far less versatility than the five Gokages together. Yet he still
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I think you are underselling the variety and versatility of having EVERY KNOWN technique and jutsu of all 6 chakra natures.
And I think you are not getting how fallacious this way of thinking is.
Hiruzen also mastered 5 basic natures and every single non-KKG technique in Konoha.
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Creation rebirth has the body's cell division forcibly stimulated by proteins, reconstructing all organs and all tissues making up the human body. Therefore, it doesn't matter where the damage is being done, creation rebirth repairs anywhere and everywhere.
Which damages Gai even more in sense that more chakra is needed while simultaneously using the Eighth Gates. You also ignored the fact the
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that is way superior to Creation Rebirth. Gai was still handicapped for life.
With that being said, Creation Rebirth isn't doing much help.
I know that 8th gate users will die in normal circumstances I didn't mean 'what if you didn't die using the 8th gate', I simply meant forget about this shinobi fighting to win and still live afterwards because I originally said that 8th gate didn't count because the user dies.
What proof is there that creation rebirth and eight inner gates can't be used together?
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is that very proof. Using another completely separate ability such as Creation Rebirth would only put strain on him more as he needs to maintain Eighth Gates in the process.
And repeating myself again, I meant, if this shinobi used eight inner gates, a sage mode, creation rebirth and strength of a hundred and lightning release chakra mode altogether AT ONCE!
- Adding Lightning Release Chakra Mode would only at best make the user as fast as V2 Ei.
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, who is far slower than BSM Naruto, who is
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in speed.
- Sage Mode only increase stats depending on the user's base. RSM has way better boost in comparison.
- Creation Rebirth and Strength of a Hundred Techniques again is not going to help. It's not helping against a technique such as
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- I already address Eight Gates.
Why aren't those techniques and modes helping? Simple. Minato and Kakashi needed to
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away Truth Seeking Orbs since they disintegrate on contact. Even with all of those techniques combined, the user can still be killed just from Naruto's shields alone.
I think you are underselling the potential of these techniques together and eight inner gates too, we know that 8th gate guy's punches were warping freaking space, and that was 8 inner gates alone.
Bold: Based on what evidence, scans, and logic? Why is it I am undermining those techniques combined?
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Bold: Madara was still alive, even with all of that.
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