[Discussion] What will Luffy do to defeat Bellamy in Dressrosa

[Ryuma720]

What do you think Luffy will defeat Bellamy with:

A new technique
Conquer Haki
A previous move we've seen
or
One shot him like in Jaya



I think he might one shot him or use Conquer's Haki to put him to sleep so he can go defeat Doflamingo

 

[Punk Hazard]

I doubt Conqueror's will work just to knock him out. With a 100x gap between Rayleigh and Luffy/Law/Kid, his Conqueror's did nothing to them. I doubt Luffy is more than 100x stronger than Bellamy atm.

 

[Anduril]

I doubt Conqueror's will work just to knock him out. With a 100x gap between Rayleigh and Luffy/Law/Kid, his Conqueror's did nothing to them. I doubt Luffy is more than 100x stronger than Bellamy atm.

Rayleigh kept them awake on purpose, that is the amount of control ray has on his King's aura.

Also I think luffy will use Haoshoku on him and tell him to rest while he kick doffy's ass.

 

[Hexuze]

I doubt Conqueror's will work just to knock him out. With a 100x gap between Rayleigh and Luffy/Law/Kid, his Conqueror's did nothing to them. I doubt Luffy is more than 100x stronger than Bellamy atm.

That's because Rayleigh used king's haki on the fodders/guards of the auction house. Law/Kid felt uneasy as well.

 

[Anduril]

That's because Rayleigh used king's haki on the fodders/guards of the auction house. Law/Kid felt uneasy as well.

Law, kid, luffy, Zoro, sanji all felt the immensity of what just went past them

 

[Magi]

Haoshoku no haki for sure

 

[xanonymosx]

no thing especial , may be nothing at all bellamey is all done that attack was probably his last move he will fall to the ground thinking he did beat luffy then luffy stand up like nothing has happend bellamy try to continue the fight luffy punch him to sleep then he move on to fry mingo

 

[Punk Hazard]

Rayleigh kept them awake on purpose, that is the amount of control ray has on his King's aura.

Also I think luffy will use Haoshoku on him and tell him to rest while he kick doffy's ass.

That's because Rayleigh used king's haki on the fodders/guards of the auction house. Law/Kid felt uneasy as well.

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No uneasiness from Law and Kid either.

 

[Anduril]

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No uneasiness from Law and Kid either.

Well that translation calls rayleigh the lord of the underworld. So unless we get an official dub I don't trust it, cause the anime did not even cover it.

 

[-ahhimane-]

I think Doflamingo will butt in and kick Bellamy's a** in order to kill Luffy. Cuz even doffy knows that bellamy is not capable of killing Luffy and it will only eat away more unnecessary time.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Well that translation calls rayleigh the lord of the underworld. So unless we get an official dub I don't trust it, cause the anime did not even cover it.

You got a better translation on hand? No? Okay then.

 

[Hexuze]

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No uneasiness from Law and Kid either.

Seems like it was an anime only scene then. My point still stands, Rayleigh wasn't targeting Luffy/Law/Kidd when he used CoC, he only knocked out the guards.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Seems like it was an anime only scene then. My point still stands, Rayleigh wasn't targeting Luffy/Law/Kidd when he used CoC, he only knocked out the guards.

No, your point was completely refuted with these scans. He clearly said ¨You guys withstood that.¨ If it was never aimed at them, how'd they withstand it? I don't have to explain what withstanding something means, do I?

 

[Hexuze]

No, your point was completely refuted with these scans. He clearly said ¨You guys withstood that.¨ If it was never aimed at them, how'd they withstand it? I don't have to explain what withstanding something means, do I?

He never tried then since there is a overwhelming difference in strength between Rayleigh and them at the time.

 

[Punk Hazard]

He never tried then since there is a overwhelming difference in strength between Rayleigh and them at the time.

No, they withstood it. How can they withstand something if it was never acting against them? Your reading comprehension is surely better than this.

 

[Hexuze]

No, they withstood it. How can they withstand something if it was never acting against them? Your reading comprehension is surely better than this.

Yeah, I know that after reading the scan you posted. Now what I'm saying is that he never tried his best to knock out Luffy/Kidd/Zoro/Law/Sanji. Why would Rayleigh want to knock out someone that he wants to meet? Lol Rayleigh probably just sent out a small burst of CoC to all the guards & supernovas (including sanji & some of Kidd/Law's mates).

 

[Punk Hazard]

Yeah, I know that after reading the scan you posted. Now what I'm saying is that he never tried his best to knock out Luffy/Kidd/Zoro/Law/Sanji. Why would Rayleigh want to knock out someone that he wants to meet? Lol Rayleigh probably just sent out a small burst of CoC to all the guards & supernovas (including sanji & some of Kidd/Law's mates).

He said they withstood it so easily, meaning he packed quite a punch into that move. Also, it was never hinted that you could control how strong the Haoshoku Haki you emit is, only that you could control who it affects. This, coupled with the fact that they withstood it, means they were hit by Ray's power and weren't knocked out. The fact that one of Law's crewmates passed out for a second shows that Ray indeed did not exclude them, or that would have never happened.

 

[Hexuze]

He said they withstood it so easily, meaning he packed quite a punch into that move. Also, it was never hinted that you could control how strong the Haoshoku Haki you emit is, only that you could control who it affects. This, coupled with the fact that they withstood it, means they were hit by Ray's power and weren't knocked out. The fact that one of Law's crewmates passed out for a second shows that Ray indeed did not exclude them, or that would have never happened.

Or maybe he targeted everyone except the SH's. He did pretty much apologize to Law/Kid after using CoC.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Or maybe he targeted everyone except the SH's. He did pretty much apologize to Law/Kid after using CoC.

Which means that with a 100x gap, it still didn't work on Kid and Law. As my original point stated. Thanks for agreeing with me.

 

[Hexuze]

Which means that with a 100x gap, it still didn't work on Kid and Law. As my original point stated. Thanks for agreeing with me.

I'm not agreeing with you. I still think a haki user can control the strength of king's haki they use. It just doesn't make sense for them not to get knocked out, especially some of the fodders in Law's crew & Bepo. We'll see once Oda explains CoC in great detail.