What was More Forced

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I was gonna say that they were both nerfed, but then I remembered that Momoshiki never used his Byakugan in an actual fight. He relied totally on the Rinnegan.

I checked back but the only time when Momoshiki activated the Byakugan was:

> Locating the Kyuubi chakra in Naruto
> Looking at Naruto & Boruto before he transformed.

If he had the Byakugan on, he probably would of won actually XD

Makes no sense for him to not have his Byakugan active when fighting multiple opponents though.
 

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:lmao: Gotta love how both Momshiki and Kaguya get caught by surprise from behind even with Byakugan. Why is the Byakugan always nerfed like this?

Anyways, Sakura by far, the entire fight with Kaguya lacked logic at every single panel.

I laughed so hard at the part Sakura said we both are women. It was such unnecessary thing.
 

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:lmao: Gotta love how both Momshiki and Kaguya get caught by surprise from behind even with Byakugan. Why is the Byakugan always nerfed like this?

Anyways, Sakura by far, the entire fight with Kaguya lacked logic at every single panel.

Not only the Byakugan. Madara for example got fodderized two times from behind.
 

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Makes no sense for him to not have his Byakugan active when fighting multiple opponents though.
True. But I guess Momoshiki's downfall was his superiority complex.

Kaguya wasn't the brightest, but Momoshiki thought he was the absolute being. Didn't know that plot was a coming
 

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Sakura punching Kaguya wasn't forced Sakura had an opening and she exploited it . What could Kaguya do in a second
 

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Of course Boruto moments. In P1 base Gai was so fast, Sasuke, Naruto and Sakura couldn't even track his movements with eyes. And he was a normal jounin. And here you have a genin who defeats a 'god'. It doesn't even matter if it was Naruto's power or not, the thing is that Boruto shouldn't be able to even do anything. Momoshiki should've simply killed him with a simple blitz.

That fight was a complete bullshit, no matter how hard you want to defend Boruto and the pips. I mean, we all knew it was going to happen, but seriously, they could've at least tried to make it look less irrational and stupid.
 

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Hmm considering Naruto/Sasuke were doing most of the work, I'll go with Orochimaru being able to replicate Sage Mode for free.

Or when Naruto/Sasuke were getting heavily nerfed in the Naruto Gaiden by those Shin fodders, yet at the end Naruto stopped them all by making Kurama scare them.

Let's talk about this for-real. How many times have Naruto/Sasuke been nerfed since Chapter 699 ended?

Wait, for free? Do you know any other naruto character who trained as hard as Orochimaru? This guy literally spent his whole life on training, learning and trying to get stronger and more knowledgeable. Literally everything he has was achieved by his hard work.

You really must be an Oro hater if you believe that anything Oro has was forced.
 

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True. But I guess Momoshiki's downfall was his superiority complex.

Kaguya wasn't the brightest, but Momoshiki thought he was the absolute being. Didn't know that plot was a coming
That and being a lazy ass. It's a shame that three friggin' rinnegans went to waste.
 

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Hmm considering Naruto/Sasuke were doing most of the work, I'll go with Orochimaru being able to replicate Sage Mode for free.

Or when Naruto/Sasuke were getting heavily nerfed in the Naruto Gaiden by those Shin fodders, yet at the end Naruto stopped them all by making Kurama scare them.

Let's talk about this for-real. How many times have Naruto/Sasuke been nerfed since Chapter 699 ended?

Are you referring to mitsuki getting sage mode don't really see that as an ass pull
 

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Of course Boruto moments. In P1 base Gai was so fast, Sasuke, Naruto and Sakura couldn't even track his movements with eyes. And he was a normal jounin. And here you have a genin who defeats a 'god'. It doesn't even matter if it was Naruto's power or not, the thing is that Boruto shouldn't be able to even do anything. Momoshiki should've simply killed him with a simple blitz.

That fight was a complete bullshit, no matter how hard you want to defend Boruto and the pips. I mean, we all knew it was going to happen, but seriously, they could've at least tried to make it look less irrational and stupid.

Completely agree here. Let's not forget how out of character Sasuke even needed to be to literally go out of his way in a very serious situation to track Boruto down, giving him a pep talk, and then bring him along. I mean this is the guy who abandoned his own family for a decade just for the small chance he finds something about Kaguya's clan. He also cared so much about Boruto that he missed his chunnin exam match as well as his daughters just because he wanted to know the exact moment the scroll was encoded. You mean to tell me the same Sasuke now in a very serious situation in a race against time is going to go out of his way to bring along an inexperienced gennin that never fought a legit battle in his entire life and literally shit himself when he saw Momoshiti before. Don't even give me he needed him for his disappearing rasengan since if Sasuke really wanted to bring along someone that could help he would have brought along Lee.
 

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That and being a lazy ass. It's a shame that three friggin' rinnegans went to waste.

No one wants fillergan:lol

Op: manga already said kaguya loses focus everytime narusasu were together in fear of being sealed. Obviously kakashi plan exploited that which gave sakura her opening. So no it's not forced:lol
 
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naruto fans defending boruto...sasuke fans defending sakura (LMAOOOO) what else is new?
 

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Of course Boruto moments. In P1 base Gai was so fast, Sasuke, Naruto and Sakura couldn't even track his movements with eyes. And he was a normal jounin. And here you have a genin who defeats a 'god'. It doesn't even matter if it was Naruto's power or not, the thing is that Boruto shouldn't be able to even do anything. Momoshiki should've simply killed him with a simple blitz.

That fight was a complete bullshit, no matter how hard you want to defend Boruto and the pips. I mean, we all knew it was going to happen, but seriously, they could've at least tried to make it look less irrational and stupid.

****ing this.

Even Curse Mark Sasuke was moving faster than the other Gennin could track in the forest of death, and he gets absolutely shit on by any mid-top tier Jounin. Multiply that Jounin's power by 500, and that's the level Momoshiki was on, and yet we're supposed to believe someone maybe on Part 1 CM Sasuke's level could even see Momoshiki let alone move fast enough to hit him.

It's absurd. Any Jounin and above opponent should be able to casually walk around faster than Boruto could see.
 

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Are you referring to mitsuki getting sage mode don't really see that as an ass pull
How? He literally was given it through experimental genetics.

That and being a lazy ass. It's a shame that three friggin' rinnegans went to waste.
True.

Wait, for free? Do you know any other naruto character who trained as hard as Orochimaru? This guy literally spent his whole life on training, learning and trying to get stronger and more knowledgeable. Literally everything he has was achieved by his hard work.

You really must be an Oro hater if you believe that anything Oro has was forced.
Can you show me one scan of Orochimaru spending all of his life on recreating Sage Mode?

Of course Boruto moments. In P1 base Gai was so fast, Sasuke, Naruto and Sakura couldn't even track his movements with eyes. And he was a normal jounin. And here you have a genin who defeats a 'god'. It doesn't even matter if it was Naruto's power or not, the thing is that Boruto shouldn't be able to even do anything. Momoshiki should've simply killed him with a simple blitz.
That's not how the fight went down at all. Boruto (and Sasuke) were not fighting Momoshiki who was moving. Sasuke distracted him with his S/T, Boruto came from behind him, Momoshiki grabbed him, he didn't notice the kunai in his hand, and then Boruto with the Rasengan slammed it into him. Though Momoshiki himself was carrying a Rasengan-clone in his hand, hoping to use it against Boruto's own technique.

It was never setup for him (or them) to fight in CQC.
 

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both moments were bullshit. sakura and boruto are mere candles to the sun when it comes to kaguya and momo, yet somehow both got hit by super telegraphed attacks.
 

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Hmm considering Naruto/Sasuke were doing most of the work, I'll go with Orochimaru being able to replicate Sage Mode for free.

Or when Naruto/Sasuke were getting heavily nerfed in the Naruto Gaiden by those Shin fodders, yet at the end Naruto stopped them all by making Kurama scare them.

Let's talk about this for-real. How many times have Naruto/Sasuke been nerfed since Chapter 699 ended?
Indra solos now for real....oro was able to replicate Sage mode but never used it in a battle at all..lol...Who knows maybe oro still didn't get it(for me this is impossible, it's just doesn't make sense).....Kishi's logic:sdo:
Btw..I agree with most of what you have said...
 
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How? He literally was given it through experimental genetics.


True.


Can you show me one scan of Orochimaru spending all of his life on recreating Sage Mode?


That's not how the fight went down at all. Boruto (and Sasuke) were not fighting Momoshiki who was moving. Sasuke distracted him with his S/T, Boruto came from behind him, Momoshiki grabbed him, he didn't notice the kunai in his hand, and then Boruto with the Rasengan slammed it into him. Though Momoshiki himself was carrying a Rasengan-clone in his hand, hoping to use it against Boruto's own technique.

It was never setup for him (or them) to fight in CQC.

The specifics weren't explained but he probably did the same thing as kabuto and used jugos DNA to absorb sage Chakra so he can natural go into sage Chakra and maintain it.
 
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