What thoughts make you depressed?

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Life isn't precious, that's an illusion human culture has cast to try and hide from the truth; that we are beings born out of chance - no true purpose or destination. We just make up ways to pass the days until we die. Ways to make us content, to *feel* purposeful and ways to subconsciously blind the truth from ourselves.

TL;DR - Just be happy as you can, focus on enjoyment and don't worry about what you might not be able to reach.

When I state that life is precious it's not me applying those words to everyone but I am stating that your life should be precious to you. What I was meaning to say by that is that out of all the other possibilities, we won the lottery of life. The chances of you being born are rare, when I say you I mean YOU and not someone that would have replaced the person in your postion. That's why I say being born Is a unique thing (for us) therefor we should utilise it to its maximum potential.

Also there doesn't seem to be a purpose, I agree, however I was stating that not enjoying this unique opportunity of living to its fullest makes me upset.
 

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That we live in a shit world. While i'm here on PC, some people don't have what to eat, some women are being beaten, there's people living n minimal conditions, also exists racist, homophobe, sexist people, and our current political scenario is shit.

Just a few things.

  • One major thing being time.. and the thought that I will actually die one day. Once you die it's over and there's nothing you can do about it. Even if I find my life to be a piece of shit, I still like to breathe air and talk to some close people.

  • Jealousy. Some people are just born lucky and with good lives. Rich and wealthy from their parents and never have to work a day in their life, so when I see that it makes me depressed because I don't have that and never did have that.
  • Lack of talents. I have literally nothing I'm good at, so when I see people who can do so many interesting things it makes me depressed. What is my purpose? Why was I even born if I can't do anything? Was I born just to feel like shit?
  • Currently I'm not happy. I'm in college but I don't feel like I'm doing anything with my life since I sincerely despise school and find it to be a complete waste of time. Even if I was to drop out, what else would there be for me?
  • I have no passions for anything. I am not motivated at all, so when I see people who know what they want to do with their life it makes me feel like I am wasting my life, which I am.

As for lack o talents, if it helps, most people who are "talented" worked hard a lot of achieve anything. It's just that people forget and we live in a really narcisistic society, so most people like to pass a fake image that everything was easier. I really wanted to sing, even having no talent. When i started the classes, my teacher said that to be a good singer, is needed at least training in vocal techniques for eight years. Some people sing since they are kids or teenagers, and hat is why they are ideally "talented". But if you did not have parents or an environment that allowed you the opportunity to make you develop any "talent", it doesn't mean that it's too late.

As for people with perfect lives, money and loving parents... this is not true as well. Nothing is what it seems to be. I don't know what kind of life you have, buuut i can say that i'm from a well settled family and my life was not perfect, and i know a lot of other people that if you look their facebook pics, their life looks perfect but ar far from it. On the other hand i can't complain the shit I passed or saw because other guys say "wow you have everything, you should be ashamed to complain". You know? the neighboor garden is always greener.

I think you are depressed. :( When i was teenager I used to think a lot like the things you are saying right now. If you are not happy, i think you should change. Try to change your major, change university, get out of the status quo that maybe you will change environment and know other perspectives. Usually depression has a motive, or several, that conditioned you to think so.
 
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Having no sleep due to thoughts going wild about everything .
 

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As for lack o talents, if it helps, most people who are "talented" worked hard a lot of achieve anything. It's just that people forget and we live in a really narcisistic society, so most people like to pass a fake image that everything was easier. I really wanted to sing, even having no talent. When i started the classes, my teacher said that to be a good singer, is needed at least training in vocal techniques for eight years. Some people sing since they are kids or teenagers, and hat is why they are ideally "talented". But if you did not have parents or an environment that allowed you the opportunity to make you develop any "talent", it doesn't mean that it's too late.

As for people with perfect lives, money and loving parents... this is not true as well. Nothing is what it seems to be. I don't know what kind of life you have, buuut i can say that i'm from a well settled family and my life was not perfect, and i know a lot of other people that if you look their facebook pics, their life looks perfect but ar far from it. On the other hand i can't complain the shit I passed or saw because other guys say "wow you have everything, you should be ashamed to complain". You know? the neighboor garden is always greener.

I think you are depressed. :( When i was teenager I used to think a lot like the things you are saying right now. If you are not happy, i think you should change. Try to change your major, change university, get out of the status quo that maybe you will change environment and know other perspectives. Usually depression has a motive, or several, that conditioned you to think so.

Uhm, okay.
 

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Just a few things.

  • One major thing being time.. and the thought that I will actually die one day. Once you die it's over and there's nothing you can do about it. Even if I find my life to be a piece of shit, I still like to breathe air and talk to some close people.
  • Seeing people in those long lasting committed happy relationships kinda makes me depressed because I know I will never get that.
  • Lack of self-confidence. I'm shit, and I'm constantly putting myself down because there are people who are better than me at a lot of things, and I feel like I'm not good at anything.
  • Jealousy. Some people are just born lucky and with good lives. Rich and wealthy from their parents and never have to work a day in their life, so when I see that it makes me depressed because I don't have that and never did have that.
  • Lack of talents. I have literally nothing I'm good at, so when I see people who can do so many interesting things it makes me depressed. What is my purpose? Why was I even born if I can't do anything? Was I born just to feel like shit?
  • I'm constantly thinking about the future and it makes me dejected because I will probably never achieve anything or be content before I die.
  • Currently I'm not happy. I'm in college but I don't feel like I'm doing anything with my life since I sincerely despise school and find it to be a complete waste of time. Even if I was to drop out, what else would there be for me?
  • I have no passions for anything. I am not motivated at all, so when I see people who know what they want to do with their life it makes me feel like I am wasting my life, which I am.

no one is born talented. some might have the genetics to learn certain things A BIT faster, but aquiring skills itself means constant hard training. start doing something like drawing or playing an instrument 2/day and youll see how much you will improve. once youve reached 10k hours youre a true master of that art. so dont blame your "lack" of talents, when youve never actually REALLY tried, because a lack of talent doesnt exist. only lack of training.
 

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I get depressed whenever I see my parents. They're at that age where their bodies are starting to degrade slowly. My mother's already showing signs of alzheimers (runs in the family), and she's not even 50 yet. When ever I see them suffering from minor things, like backpain, muscle soreness, etc. It reminds me of their mortality, that they're not going to be alive forever. It makes me think of their death, and the thought of their consciousness no longer existing on this planet depresses me.


This. My mother is all i really have in this life and when she got into a car accident it was the first time that her death was a possibility in my mind. Then i came to the quick realization that we are all going to die eventually, changing the possibility into a reality. She didn't hit 50 yet so i'm not in the same boat as you, but knowing the day is going to come haunts me. Especially given the life she's had so far.Whittling away with only regrets.

Assuming you're both atheists and you both think this life is all there is to us, I think you're stuck on a theistic concept of self and consciousness. Surely for a supposed naturalist we're in the basics 2 things: energy and information. Energy in the sense that that's what keeps us running and information in the sense that what we do, think, feel and experience can be simply described as processing, using and creating information. On such a view, would death really be the end of us? What is "us" we speak of? If we're to be concieved as very advanced information processing systems which run and are made of energy (as matter and energy are 2 sides of the same coin), does death not mean simply dispensing our energy from one form into another?

Holding this view, the information processing system we call "us" would indeed be no more, but does it mean the information is gone? Does it mean the energy that is "us" is gone? Hardly, I say. It simply goes on to form other information processing organisms, literally other humans (someone else's "me") or it is used to sustain the system that creates new "us" (the ecosystem for example) thus indirectly creating new information processing systems.

Does this at all help cope with the non-being of "self" (this specific information processing system)? Does the notion that all will continue and will never end (atleast not until the universe dies which will be a collective death, leaving no remorse as noone will stay alive to greeve as all information will be destroyed) but simply persist in a different form help you lessen the heavy thought of death?

I understand death is a hard concept to live with so I hope this view lessens if not diminishes the emotional struggle you two feel.

thinking about something, that when you think about it makes you depressed is silly lol

I don't think it's silly at all. Humans have an inborn affection towards mistery. The unpredictability and inconcievable nature of a thing makes it charming and irreducible. Contradictory, we also have an unyielding curiosity to realise how things work. As such we continually work against ourselves by our own will.

Having said this, once we get under the hood of how things are, once the veil of mistery that once captivated us is dispensed, we seem to immediatelly appreciate those things. We see it as just a bunch of molecules, just a bunch of ink on a paper etc. I think humans need a dose of mistery in their lives, if nothing else because the realization of the true nature of a thing will lead to less enjoyment coming out of that thing.

It's tragic, but natural. You shouldn't feel bad about it, even though you really can't help it.
 
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Assuming you're both atheists and you both think this life is all there is to us, I think you're stuck on a theistic concept of self and consciousness. Surely for a supposed naturalist we're in the basics 2 things: energy and information. Energy in the sense that that's what keeps us running and information in the sense that what we do, think, feel and experience can be simply described as processing, using and creating information. On such a view, would death really be the end of us? What is "us" we speak of? If we're to be concieved as very advanced information processing systems which run and are made of energy (as matter and energy are 2 sides of the same coin), does death not mean simply dispensing our energy from one form into another?

Holding this view, the information processing system we call "us" would indeed be no more, but does it mean the information is gone? Does it mean the energy that is "us" is gone? Hardly, I say. It simply goes on to form other information processing organisms, literally other humans (someone else's "me") or it is used to sustain the system that creates new "us" (the ecosystem for example) thus indirectly creating new information processing systems.

Does this at all help cope with the non-being of "self" (this specific information processing system)? Does the notion that all will continue and will never end (atleast not until the universe dies which will be a collective death, leaving no remorse as noone will stay alive to greeve as all information will be destroyed) but simply persist in a different form help you lessen the heavy thought of death?

I understand death is a hard concept to live with so I hope this view lessens if not diminishes the emotional struggle you two feel.

My mother is a christian, and I live in a christian family, but saying things like "she'll be going to a better place" doesn't change the fact that she will eventually leave me.

It goes double for the other guy since the very things that built up his relationship with his parents are slowly disappearing from their lives. Even the act of conversation one of the very basic things they taught you will cease to happen.

What scares me isn't the death itself, but the slow inevitability of it all. You're never really taught to think youre days are numbered.
 

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no one is born talented. some might have the genetics to learn certain things A BIT faster, but aquiring skills itself means constant hard training. start doing something like drawing or playing an instrument 2/day and youll see how much you will improve. once youve reached 10k hours youre a true master of that art. so dont blame your "lack" of talents, when youve never actually REALLY tried, because a lack of talent doesnt exist. only lack of training.
A lot of what we're good at is genetics. Geniuses are born geniuses, athletes have an inclination to the sport they play, actors, and singers are born with charisma, looks, and not everyone can have a singing voice, the rest is all a combination of luck and work.


1. My uncertain future.

2. Being forever alone :(

3. Death of people I love and myself/my youth is gonna end before I know it.
 

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My mother is a christian, and I live in a christian family, but saying things like "she'll be going to a better place" doesn't change the fact that she will eventually leave me.

It goes double for the other guy since the very things that built up his relationship with his parents are slowly disappearing from their lives. Even the act of conversation one of the very basic things they taught you will cease to happen.

What scares me isn't the death itself, but the slow inevitability of it all. You're never really taught to think youre days are numbered.

I see, well believe it or not I tend to reflect on these kinds of things even tho I don't have any specially tragic past (nor present). I live in a loving family, have enough money to spend on luxury, am healthy - I'm living a good life. Still, I too for some reason gloom over the inevitable demise that awaits us all or rather (as you put it) the painful process of moving towards that inevitability. So in that aspect you can be sure I relate with you.

If death itself (as in termination of one self) isn't really problematic to you (and if you're a christian it shouldn't be) then I don't see why you'd despair over it's inevitability. To a christian, death is more than merely "being in a better place". If you truly believe what Christianity teaches than you should look at death as one's "means to end", a seal of approval that puts a period on this finite existence and transcends beyond it. The person dying may be in terrible suffering or despair but all of that will be relieved when united with God in a way we simply cannot even imagine.

Now, I have noticed that you're sad that she'll leave you, but is this truly a fitting thing for a christian to say? Do the dead really leave you? I don't think that's what the faith teaches. Do christians not regularly pray to God (himself supposedly not 'here') and do they not say that "God is with them"? Since the dead are untied with God then it's inconsistent to say they're not with you while God is. Just like God, they are with you, they're simply not on the same plane of reality as you. I'm not saying there is no distance nor am I trying to undermine the pain and lonelyness one feels after such a tragedy occurs but I'm saying that the "not being here" is only apparent. Dealing with this apparecy may be hard, but the christian truth makes it easier to bear.
 

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A lot of what we're good at is genetics. Geniuses are born geniuses, athletes have an inclination to the sport they play, actors, and singers are born with charisma, looks, and not everyone can have a singing voice, the rest is all a combination of luck and work.


1. My uncertain future.

2. Being forever alone :(

3. Death of people I love and myself/my youth is gonna end before I know it.

You're right in saying that our talents are determined by our genes - a blessing so to speak. But are you not just as blessed by the mere fact that you're here on this forum? You have healthy eyes so you can look at the screen (huge blessing right here), you have good hearing so you can listen to music while browsing this forum (another greatly valuable thing), you have healthy hands to type in words etc - you're full of blessings!

Did you know there are people who lack both the ability to hear and see? Can you imagine how terrible that is? Look at us, full of "talents" - inborn abilities which other people don't have. Just because you can't play sports so well or draw or sing like you'd want doesn't mean you lack anything important.

If you're uneasy in regards to your future and you "don't know what to do with yourself" why not drop by the deaf and blind? Why not help the lone mother take care of her sick children? Why not feed the poor or talk to the lonely? We're all blessed enough with the capacity to help those who need helping. So, if you're not sure about what to do in life or if you're lacking esteem why not do volunteer? You have talent for that.
 
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