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Mad Daz

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To much stupid... Cant... Say.. Moree
 

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you forgot none of it is his own efforts its ashuras and hagoromos. Even if hes getting attention that doesnt mean the story is about him (anymore atleast). For example most people think fairy tail is about natsu.. But lucy is actually the main character.

The Sage and Ashura both failed miserable, something that has been commented on.

Naruto is succeeding where they failed, a running theme is the next generation surpassing their predecessor and succeeding where they failed.

If its more about them, then its more about Jiraya too with him also as Naruto's predecessor and the one who trained him.
 

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No obito was in the same category until he got tnj he was doing things of his free will at that point not manipulated by fate nor incarnations.

Since the whole fate and uchiha clan is zetsu's plan, obito fell perfectly in the circle too
 

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I thought it was about being fresh off the neighborhood.
 

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Have you forgotten the Will of Fire ?

I'd say that regardless of whether things were predestined/controlled in some way by another factor; Naruto (as well as almost all of the main characters other than the 'Villains') all reflected the Will of Fire.

Hashirama, Hiruzen, Naruto, Neji, Minato, Shisui, Kakasi, ......even current Obito. From what I remember, that is consistent with how the Manga started. A few things could have been done differently, sure. But it's not as bad as you are making it out to be.
the will of fire isnt an actual will its a belief system it doesnt control you its just your love for the village.
 

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Yeah well naruto has been relying on kurama since zabuza so I don't know why you're *****ing now
 

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It's about being the underdog and having friends make you stronger
Naruto would be nothing in the war if he hadn't befriended the bijuus
He'd actually be dead
 

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naruto is a part of my childhood i grew up with it so..

I like how the manga is going. Years of corruption started because of a lust for power and jealousy. Common human traits. It is up to Naruto and Sasuke to finally change things for the better.

As for reincarnations they explsined it perfectly. Tge spirit chooses someone with a similar personality. So Naruto is still self and so is Sasuke.

Only thing I hate is how everyone were left behind. Like one of my favorites Rock Lee.
 

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if you're comparing parental love with love for a manga then your taking a cartoon WAYYY to seriously

don't like it, don't read it
 

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He's comparing not liking a manga anymore to having a bad kid:leaf::leaf::leaf::leaf::leaf::leaf:
 

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Dude, sorry, but you're dead wrong.

You say, "This story is not about Naruto anymore", stating that now, the plot has shifted from it's immature, pre-adult story phase and now mainly focuses on "reincarnations and fate/destiny" instead of the carefree "number one knuckle headed ninja".

Kishimoto has grown up with the series and you should too. You may not like where the story has headed but there is no use in repeating the same threads about how Naruto has fallen and changed. As long as the author continues to dictate the manga then it's exactly how it was suppose to go and if you can't accept, go back to Part One... simple as that.
 
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