[Question] What positions do the Mugiwara's actually need? mini rant

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They need Violet to calm Sanji the fck down and her ability is awesome. They need Bart for more comic relief, he is in top 5 best written chars in the series imo, an has an excessively usefull DF. They need Sabo, just cuz. And they'll get Jinbei cuz it's a deal.
 

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When have we ever had a stream or a system that was so important that it genuinely affected the plot. ONCE.
It was the knock up stream and they had to get there boat refitted by a professional to help. THEY NEEDED HELP and if the worst current in the world is the knock up stream than thats a dissapointment. I mean there have been flaming seas and swirling jet streams but those were one page transistion to show the passage of time.

The one time they had a body of water important enough to affect the plot they needed a professional and Irrc that was one of the reasons the merry sank. Cause they can't steer for shit.
Their lack of helmsmen or a helsman/helswoman is the reason we had to say good bye to a member of the strawhat crew.


This is why they need a real helmsman.
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This is why they can't just get by with out one. This is a need. To not let anyone die is a need. They dont need effective they need efficient just enough to save the people or things they care about is a need.


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thats why they need a helmsman.
All of the ship maintenance is frankys domain.
 

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Nope. Zoro has nothing that distinguishes himself from the rest of the crew in a way that determines he'd be the first mate. Luffy would also never rank one friend over the other in the crew. The Strawhats will never have a first mate.
1. Zoro is the 2nd strongest in the crew.
2. Zoro was the first one to join.
3. Zoro is paralleled to Silvers Rayleigh, the first mate of the Roger Pirates.
4. Zoro is often referred to as vice captain of the Straw Hats.
5. If he's not the first mate, then why on this color page, which is made by Oda, is he located where he is?
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As the first mate Zoro not only does fight. but he helps the crew in other ways as well such as offer Luffy advice and watches out for the whole crew in his captains absence also he is the lookout(even though he is shit at it XD).
you mean running around and doing nothing but a lame fight? yeah shitty zoro is very helpful. lolz
stupid first mate ranking by zoro fanboys.

1. oda never said it
2. luffy doesn't give a **** about it since everyone in his crew is the same for him
 

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you mean running around and doing nothing but a lame fight? yeah shitty zoro is very helpful. lolz
Funny how I could tell that you were going to make a Zoro hate post from the moment I saw that you were viewing this thread. You only ever show up on this section in order to make a shitty Zoro hate post. Get a life pleb.
 

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Funny how I could tell that you were going to make a Zoro hate post from the moment I saw that you were viewing this thread. You only ever show up on this section in order to make a shitty Zoro hate post. Get a life pleb.
butthurt from the truth kiddo? grow up before telling others what to do.
show me a chapter what he did in this arc besides fighting pica. oh yey you can't, since getting lost, letting a lame one liner out and fighting is the purpose of his character. he is being used as it from oda because his stupid fanbase thinks badass means = awesome character.

shows how easy it is to please idiots.
 

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1. Zoro is the 2nd strongest in the crew.
2. Zoro was the first one to join.
3. Zoro is paralleled to Silvers Rayleigh, the first mate of the Roger Pirates.
4. Zoro is often referred to as vice captain of the Straw Hats.
5. If he's not the first mate, then why on this color page, which is made by Oda, is he located where he is?
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1. And?
2. And?
3. Even if he was, he still hasn't done anything that qualifies him to be first mate.
4. He was called that once
5. LOL what the **** is that supposed to prove? Because he's on the same bike as Luffy? You know, like Franky is?

Like I said, what has Zoro done specifically that qualifies him to be the first mate? The first mate is the one that the crew goes too when the captain isn't around and has authority over the rest of the crew. Zoro has no authority over anyone, he's done with Nami has told him to do far more times than vice versa, and he has yet to give commands to the crew in a way that no one else has. Someone who sleeps most of the time and goes "Leave it to luck" in the time of peril isn't someone fit to be First Mate.

There's still the fact that Luffy would never rank one friend above the other, so a first mate is never happening in the Strawhat Pirate Crew. It's just not their dynamic.
 
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butthurt from the truth kiddo? grow up before telling others what to do.
show me a chapter what he did in this arc besides fighting pica. oh yey you can't, since getting lost, letting a lame one liner out and fighting is the purpose of his character. he is being used as it from oda because his stupid fanbase thinks badass means = awesome character.

shows how easy it is to please idiots.
Wow Zoro really made you butthurt didn't he? Your fav must have been the captain of the fodder pirate crew Zoro easily destroyed at the beginning of the SH reunion. You only come to this base in order to either make a shitty Zoro hate post or make a shitty anti-Semitic post
 

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1. And?
2. And?
3. Even if he was, he still hasn't done anything that qualifies him to be first mate.
4. He was called that once
5. LOL what the **** is that supposed to prove? Because he's on the same bike as Luffy? You know, like Franky is?

Like I said, what has Zoro done specifically that qualifies him to be the first mate? The first mate is the one that the crew goes too when the captain isn't around and has authority over the rest of the crew. Zoro has no authority over anyone, he's done with Nami has told him to do far more times than vice versa, and he has yet to give commands to the crew in a way that no one else has. Someone who sleeps most of the time and goes "Leave it to luck" in the time of peril isn't someone fit to be First Mate.

There's still the fact that Luffy would never rank one friend above the other, so a first mate is never happening in the Strawhat Pirate Crew. It's just not their dynamic.
1. It don't know if you've noticed, but in One Piece, the first mate is almost always the 2nd strongest.
2. The first mate in One Piece is also usually the first one to join the crew.
3. He is usually the one in charge whenever Luffy isn't around. Nami only gives commands when something falls under her jurisdiction, which is navigation, or when it has to do with money, which is usually just a gag.
4. He was referred to being the vice captain by Urouge and Bartolomeo, the biggest fan of the Straw Hats.
5. The fact that he is in the side car right beside Luffy. Franky is there because that bike has the head of the Sunny, the ship he built, on it. Luffy is on the Sunny Bike because he is the captain of the Sunny. Zoro is in the side car right next to Luffy because he is the first mate.
 

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1. It don't know if you've noticed, but in One Piece, the first mate is almost always the 2nd strongest.
2. The first mate in One Piece is also usually the first one to join the crew.
3. He is usually the one in charge whenever Luffy isn't around. Nami only gives commands when something falls under her jurisdiction, which is navigation, or when it has to do with money, which is usually just a gag.
4. He was referred to being the vice captain by Urouge and Bartolomeo, the biggest fan of the Straw Hats.
5. The fact that he is in the side car right beside Luffy. Franky is there because that bike has the head of the Sunny, the ship he built, on it. Luffy is on the Sunny Bike because he is the captain of the Sunny. Zoro is in the side car right next to Luffy because he is the first mate.
1. Your proof?
2. Your proof?
3. Nope. The crew has gone to Sanji and to Nami before just as many times. That's kind of the point of the Strawhats, no one member outranks any of the others.
4. Oh, so outside opinions determine the crew's status? Let's ignore Bartolomeo's gag nature and the fact that Urouge has encountered one Strawhat through seeing him walking one time, and assume that the opinions of non-members determine the group's dynamic. That would mean that Chopper is really their pet, not their doctor/a member, and there is no Usopp in the crew, only Sogeking. After all, the WG is a greater source of information and has greater intelligence than both Urouge and Bartolomeo. If you wanna take their opinion as fact, you're gonna have to take the WGs as well.
5. Rlly?
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Zoro does not qualify as a first mate. He might be second strongest and first nakama but he is incapable of handing out orders and taking over captain's duties. The only solid advice he gave was back in water 7 when he put his foot down with the Usopp situation. Other than that Nami is the closest thing to a first mate.
Zoro is perfectly capable of handling a situation and taking over 'orders'
The captain's duty here was making sure Vivi kept a calm mind and set her priorities straight. Who took care of giving her that wake up call? Zoro


 

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Zoro is perfectly capable of handling a situation and taking over 'orders'
The captain's duty here was making sure Vivi kept a calm mind and set her priorities straight. Who took care of giving her that wake up call? Zoro


Well currently Sanji is playing a better role as first mate than Zoro is. Not saying Sanji is the first mate but you get the idea. I agree with Riker, it's not like Luffy to rank his nakama.
 

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Well currently Sanji is playing a better role as first mate than Zoro is. Not saying Sanji is the first mate but you get the idea. I agree with Riker, it's not like Luffy to rank his nakama.
Ok. But I'm not here to convince u that Zoro is the first mate. I to don't believe in that concept.
I just wanted to show Zoro is absolutely fine of handling a situation even after the absence of the captain
 
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