[Question] What positions do the Mugiwara's actually need? mini rant

[Tomato God]

In recent times and all through out the history of The One piece manga everyone is always discussing the need or the possibility of new nakama and we already know we are getting new nakama because oda said that more nakama will be joining multiple at a time so we might get 4 or 5 more nakama BUT everyone is disscusing WHO not WHAT we actually need.

The only position i can think of that normal crews have that the Mugiwaras don't have is a helmsman. I mean they dont actually need anyone else.

They could use bartolomew's barriers but they dont need it

Law's a great doctor BUT they have one already who is equally as good

Kinemon/Momo are both funny and dynamic but I doubt a cabin boy and a tailor are even beneficial to a crew.(Maybe)

Violet's eyes are great but so are usopps.

 

[SupremeWater]

ofcourse you need a tailor for the girls lol

 

[Punk Hazard]

Need is based on effectiveness. If something is effective to their journey, then it can be classified as needed. Barto's barriers can be needed because it can function as a great defense to the ship itself. Violet's eyes can be needed because of their extreme advantages to Chopper, Franky, Nami and Usopp. The Strawhats work together after all.

But in your sense of the word, they need a helmsman.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Need is based on effectiveness. If something is effective to their journey, then it can be classified as needed. Barto's barriers can be needed because it can function as a great defense to the ship itself. Violet's eyes can be needed because of their extreme advantages to Chopper, Franky, Nami and Usopp. The Strawhats work together after all.

But in your sense of the word, they need a helmsman.

Why would they need a helmsman? They haven't had any problems with steering the ship.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Why would they need a helmsman? They haven't had any problems with steering the ship.

I was under the impression that a helmsman fixed the flags and stuff, I didn't know they steered the ship.

 

[Tomato God]

Why would they need a helmsman? They haven't had any problems with steering the ship.

When have we ever had a stream or a system that was so important that it genuinely affected the plot. ONCE.
It was the knock up stream and they had to get there boat refitted by a professional to help. THEY NEEDED HELP and if the worst current in the world is the knock up stream than thats a dissapointment. I mean there have been flaming seas and swirling jet streams but those were one page transistion to show the passage of time.

The one time they had a body of water important enough to affect the plot they needed a professional and Irrc that was one of the reasons the merry sank. Cause they can't steer for shit.
Their lack of helmsmen or a helsman/helswoman is the reason we had to say good bye to a member of the strawhat crew.


This is why they need a real helmsman.

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This is why they can't just get by with out one. This is a need. To not let anyone die is a need. They dont need effective they need efficient just enough to save the people or things they care about is a need.

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thats why they need a helmsman.

 

[-ahhimane-]

The jobs the current Shs hold has got a lot of importance.
Nami - navigator
usopp - a sniper expert
chopper - a doctor
Sanji - a cook
Franky - Shipwright
Zoro - Swordsman
Robin - Archaeologist
Brook - Musician
Luffy - the captain

think about something which can be a need on a ship or an addition in the fighters group.

 

[Tomato God]

The jobs the current Shs hold has got a lot of importance.
Nami - navigator
usopp - a sniper expert
chopper - a doctor
Sanji - a cook
Franky - Shipwright
Zoro - Swordsman
Robin - Archaeologist
Brook - Musician
Luffy - the captain

think about something which can be a need on a ship or an addition in the fighters group.

Everyone is a fighter in the group even usopp. Fighters are a given. They always have to be a fighter PLUS something else.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Everyone is a fighter in the group even usopp. Fighters are a given. They always have to be a fighter PLUS something else.

What about Zoro? He is only a fighter.

 

[The Great Second Hokage]

They need a wildcard!!!! "enter Bellamy"!

 

[Tomato God]

What about Zoro? He is only a fighter.

What about zoro.
His job is to be a swordsman. He does that and fight.

 

[-ahhimane-]

Everyone is a fighter in the group even usopp. Fighters are a given. They always have to be a fighter PLUS something else.

when i said fighter, then that includes Zoro, luffy and usopp. these guys have nothing else to do unlike others.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

What about zoro.
His job is to be a swordsman. He does that and fight.

And how exactly does being a swordsman help the crew when they aren't fighting?

 

[Zorø]

And how exactly does being a swordsman help the crew when they aren't fighting?

As the first mate Zoro not only does fight. but he helps the crew in other ways as well such as offer Luffy advice and watches out for the whole crew in his captains absence also he is the lookout(even though he is shit at it XD).

 

[silmarill]

cabin boy
gardener

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

As the first mate Zoro not only does fight. but he helps the crew in other ways as well such as offer Luffy advice and watches out for the whole crew in his captains absence also he is the lookout(even though he is shit at it XD).

Which is why the new members don't need to have a role like being a navigator, cook, doctor, shipwright, etc. They can just be like Zoro and Usopp.

 

[Tomato God]

cabin boy
gardener

Lets define need. Kids the way we need something it is a requirement to get what we want.
Luffy needed a crew mate to form a pirate crew. Need being Zoro and the want being a pirate crew
Luffy needed a navigator to get to the grandline. Need being Nami and the want being to get to the grandline.

Which is why the new members don't need to have a role like being a navigator, cook, doctor, shipwright, etc. They can just be like Zoro and Usopp.

All of the crew mates are something that was needed. Usopp was the only one who could deliver the keys at the bridge of hesitation. Robin was the only one who could put the crew on the path to sky island. Brook was the only one who could give the weakness to zombies.

There is no situation where they need a cabin boy in order to get something
There is no situation where they need a gardener in order to get something

They need a helmsman if they want to continue on this rough journey.
They may need a tailor if they are pirates who are too broke to afford clothes.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Lets define need. Kids the way we need something it is a requirement to get what we want.
Luffy needed a crew mate to form a pirate crew. Need being Zoro and the want being a pirate crew
Luffy needed a navigator to get to the grandline. Need being Nami and the want being to get to the grandline.


All of the crew mates are something that was needed. Usopp was the only one who could deliver the keys at the bridge of hesitation. Robin was the only one who could put the crew on the path to sky island. Brook was the only one who could give the weakness to zombies.

There is no situation where they need a cabin boy in order to get something
There is no situation where they need a gardener in order to get something

They need a helmsman if they want to continue on this rough journey.
They may need a tailor if they are pirates who are too broke to afford clothes.

They don't need a helmsman, they have never had a problem with steering the ship.

 

[Bimbonium]

The jobs the current Shs hold has got a lot of importance.
Nami - navigator
usopp - a sniper expert
chopper - a doctor
Sanji - a cook
Franky - Shipwright
Zoro - Swordsman
Robin - Archaeologist
Brook - Musician
Luffy - the captain

think about something which can be a need on a ship or an addition in the fighters group.

Looking at this list. on a Normal ship an Archaeologist is not needed. but in the OPV having Robin helps them on islands. The new Strawhat(s) may not necessarily be needed on a ship but on Islands.

 

[Love Cook]

As the first mate Zoro not only does fight. but he helps the crew in other ways as well such as offer Luffy advice and watches out for the whole crew in his captains absence also he is the lookout(even though he is shit at it XD).

Zoro does not qualify as a first mate. He might be second strongest and first nakama but he is incapable of handing out orders and taking over captain's duties. The only solid advice he gave was back in water 7 when he put his foot down with the Usopp situation. Other than that Nami is the closest thing to a first mate.