What people fial the realize about Itachi....
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Itachi cna totsuka blitz all mokuton and seal it #mangaphax
Itachi can totsuka blitz Madara Perfect Susanoo's Toe and thus eal the entire thing #mangaphax
Neither Madara or hashirama has any feats that can break yata mirror
Hashirama said Itachi was stronger than him #mangaphax
#knowyourManga
Joseph Gomes
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Trolls like you are the reason more and more people bash foddertachi
By feats, Madara and Hashirama >>>> Itachi
Itachi could tag along kcm naruto and dsm kabuto at most. Don't give imaginary feats to characters based on hyperbole statements from a liar
Lets compare feats....
Madara received insane powerups.. yet still lost countless times..
Itachi never lost a fight..
Hashirama admitted Itachi > Hashirama
In my opinion DSM Kabuto could beat Both Hashi and Madara within that cave
HeavenlyFlames
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I still don't consider him to be a traitor. The clan was part of Konoha and the clan itself were traitors. So, it's just him not betraying in the first place. That's just how I see things though.
Then you're seeing things delusionally. Konoha betrayed their trust to the Uchiha, since they suspected them behind Kyuubi's attack without carrying the evidence of such claim. Uchiha had every right to take the step they took, due to the discrimination and injustice they received from Konoha; and Itachi being the foolish and deluded he was, he betrayed not only Shisui's trust but also his clan.
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His decision wasn't really foolish if you ask me. If the Uchiha had acted near by nations would seize the moment, so the Uchiha and Konoha could potentially have been taken down at once. And finally, (The cause of the Kurama incident was an Uchiha, which was ironic. Just pointing that out.) But, I do get your point though.
Then Itachi should look at the record of Konoha's genocide, if he wants to make a decision on its protection. The action of one person /=/ action of entire group. Obito's doing /=/ Uchiha's doing. Understand the difference before criticizing.
No, not really since he's useful without them and they are related to his character as well as foreshadowed. Not *sspulls. U_U
He's top ten without Kaguya's family.
He's not a traitor of his clan, he actually benefited them more than all the other Uchiha did in the long run. Which is highly ironic, but true.
Hashirama> Madara in the end. The way Madara admitted that he should have pursued Hashirama's path was priceless. Lol
Betrayed trust to the Uchiha?
The Uchiha were thinking of this since Tobirama's reign. They just decided to implement it generations later after the Kyuubi attack. They're so self-centered, simple-minded, and warped, it's sickening.
No, the suspicion was justified.
-An Uchiha, Obito, who was never excommunicated did it.
-Only a sharingan user could have done it.
-All the Uchiha were mysteriously absent on the night of the attack bar 5 yr old Itachi and baby Sasuke.
Discrimination and Injustice?
-Given military power.
-Have a shot at Hokage seat just as much as every other clan does.
-Have respect throughout Konoha and are revered as the most elite clan by the village population.
-Compound gives them better living quarters than Naruto (the 4th Hokage's son) has.
-Spying increased due to suspicion, however, Hokage was gracious enough to let Uchiha heir into Anbu and be captain.
So much for discrimination and injustice. Lol
Itachi's not foolish or deluded. Only the opposite of those two terms.
"You're my best friend. The only one I can ask of this. Please protect the village and keep the Uchiha honorable."
^Itachi did exactly this. He more than succeeded with Shisui's wish.
He didn't decide whether his clan would live or die. Konoha would retaliate and eliminate them all once the coup started, Itachi doing it himself doesn't factor into their fate. It actually benefited them more considering he loved them and carried the burden himself, while saving their honor, while saving once innocent Uchiha (Sasuke), while killing them in their sleep instead of letting them be slaughtered in a civil war in broad daylight. He was good for the clan.
And no, the Uchiha had no right to decide that they could impose themselves upon 100,000 people and rule over them as they wish... especially when they don't have their trust. It was greedy on their behalf, they just wanted power. Fugaku should have made his case clear before Hiruzen first. Deciding to use his son as a tool and make him join Anbu, put the entire clan in jeopardy, and have a coup that would cause a great conflict in Konoha (funny... since the Uchiha were supposed to promote the peace in their home) was one of the most stupid acts in this manga hands down.
Konoha doesn't have a history of genocide. The Uchiha were the first and the clan is 60% or more responsible for it themselves. With Hiruzen, Koharu, Homura, and Danzo taking the remaining 40% and Itachi being in the clear since he was dragged into making such impossible choices.
All the Uchiha agreed to the coup. That's the entire group, bar those too young to know about it. Fugaku and the clan brought it upon themselves and as a result their own children went with them. The foolishness reached its peak in this series with these folks.
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Perhaps, but his feats in Part 2 take a dump on his part 1 feats.
He was top 1 in Part 1. And he DID receive "new" abilities in Part 2.(at least they were shown to us) And no, he's barely top 20 at this point.
Maybe Gai? I mean I'm sure he always had the gates.....
enditallsin
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He is most certainly not irrelevant. He is the reason Sasuke turned out the way he had. The reason why Sasuke was able to admit his ideals were wrong is because he realized that he respected and admired Itachi's ideals and that Naruto had those same ideals. He was no saint and he could have made some better choices when it came to Sasuke, but he stayed true to his ideals and the village until the end.
Before you start with his murdering his clan, Hiruzen and Danzo were more responsible for that than Itachi. Hiruzen could have went to them and tried to talk them out of it. He sure as hell could have kept a tighter reign on Danzo so Danzo could not have blackmailed Itachi into killing them. At least Itachi did the merciful thing by killing them himself instead of having ANBU do it. He at least loved them even though he believed they were wrong. He paid for it with his life-he became ill after murdering them.
Whether or not he could have beat Hashi, Madara or Obito we'll never know but I have to say I would have liked to see those fights because Itachi was great with strategy and finding the weakness in a jutsu. I would have also liked to see him fight J man. He stayed calm powered up incrementally and used only what was necessary to win.
Before you start with his murdering his clan, Hiruzen and Danzo were more responsible for that than Itachi. Hiruzen could have went to them and tried to talk them out of it. He sure as hell could have kept a tighter reign on Danzo so Danzo could not have blackmailed Itachi into killing them. At least Itachi did the merciful thing by killing them himself instead of having ANBU do it. He at least loved them even though he believed they were wrong. He paid for it with his life-he became ill after murdering them.
Whether or not he could have beat Hashi, Madara or Obito we'll never know but I have to say I would have liked to see those fights because Itachi was great with strategy and finding the weakness in a jutsu. I would have also liked to see him fight J man. He stayed calm powered up incrementally and used only what was necessary to win.