What ninja rank do you think Zabuza is?

[bigmoose21]

Yea all 4 of them? You mean all 3, Sakura cant do shit.

BTW yea all 3 of them can take him out, i mean they r some of the strongest ninja of all time

you are probably right Sakura more than likely couldnt do shit.... but she would have Plot no Jutsu on her side and we all know that is an instant one shot.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Kakashi is a Jounin still, and is 100 time stronger now than he was back then... hence why all of the 7 swordsmen got ****in Destroyed....

Zabuza before time skip would be S-Rank based off of what we know

Zabuza after time skip would not be S-Rank

thats like saying oh man Frieza is the strongest mother ****er ever he took on Vegeta and Goku.... and trying to use SS3 goku as a reference

No Zabuza would still be "S-rank" because part 2 is just showing the strongest ninja of all time.......... I dont think hes S-rank though

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Dude the definition of S-Rank, is High Level Jounin and Kage level.... so if you say he is S-Rank then you are saying hes is kage level...

i think that is the issue here

No the issue is here that I have never said which rank I thought he was and u just assumed I did? I think hes between A and S......seriously leave me alone dude stop trying to piss me off

 

[Bogard]

Remember Kabuto lost to Naruto genin, so Kabuto was weak?

 

[SandVillageShinobi]

Well, I've lost this argument. The great lord Zabuza is Kage level and can beat anyone in the whole series! Woo. Lol.

 

[bigmoose21]

No Zabuza would still be "S-rank" because part 2 is just showing the strongest ninja of all time..........

yes.... but the stronger the Jounin and Kage get, the higher the bar gets to become S-Rank. Since that is what the rank is based off of... and based off of that.... as of right now, zabuza would not be S-Rank.

 

[Talal]

Either A or S, because I can't think of any Jounins other than Kakashi and Guy that could beat him.

 

[bigmoose21]

Remember Kabuto lost to Naruto genin, so Kabuto was weak?

i wouldnt say Kabuto was weak... but compared to where he is at now, he was a weakling back then...

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Well, I've lost this argument. The great lord Zabuza is Kage level and can beat anyone in the whole series! Woo. Lol.

I have never said he was kage level! i think hes A-rank screw off

 

[ShaneEyyy]

yes.... but the stronger the Jounin and Kage get, the higher the bar gets to become S-Rank. Since that is what the rank is based off of... and based off of that.... as of right now, zabuza would not be S-Rank.

No....the bar doesnt get higher, S-rank is a standard, when u see ninja like Madara, that is whats called ABOVE standard, Madara is extremely S rank Zabuza is perhaps between A-S

 

[SandVillageShinobi]

I have never said he was kage level! i think hes A-rank screw off

Don't bitch at me. I'm too tired for this shit man.

And as far as I'm concerned my comment could be about anyone.

 

[bigmoose21]

Either A or S, because I can't think of any Jounins other than Kakashi and Guy that could beat him.

not sure if serious.....

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Either A or S, because I can't think of any Jounins other than Kakashi and Guy that could beat him.

Thats where I think he is for that exact reason

 

[Ero sennin jiraiya]

He lost to part 1 kakashi, not that part 1 kakashi was particularly weak, but he definitely isnt S rank. He's A rank though.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Don't bitch at me. I'm too tired for this shit man.

Your the one bitching and instigating, just please get off my thread to avoid problems?

 

[bigmoose21]

No....the bar doesnt get higher, S-rank is a standard, when u see ninja like Madara, that is whats called ABOVE standard, Madara is extremely S rank Zabuza is perhaps between A-S

the bar doesnt get higher? its a Standard???

yes the bar does get higher and the deffinition changes which changes the standard...

Are you a World Class Sprinter if you can run the 100 meters in 10.6 seconds... **** no... But 50 years ago, you would have been the best in the world....

the standard used to be if you ran the 100m in under 11 seconds you were good enough to be in the olympics

now if you can run under 10 seconds you are considered good enough...

thus the standard changed to be an olympic athlete...

 

[ShaneEyyy]

the bar doesnt get higher? its a Standard???

yes the bar does get higher and the deffinition changes which changes the standard...

Are you a World Class Sprinter if you can run the 100 meters in 10.6 seconds... **** no... But 50 years ago, you would have been the best in the world....

the standard used to be if you ran the 100m in under 11 seconds you were good enough to be in the olympics

now if you can run under 10 seconds you are considered good enough...

thus the standard changed to be an olympic athlete...

Oh i see what ur saying nvm my bad, but dude u dont understand r seeing guys from the past who r the strongest of all time, so u cant compare Zabuza to them because they r way passed S rank am i right?

 

[bigmoose21]

Oh i see what ur saying nvm my bad, but dude u dont understand r seeing guys from the past who r the strongest of all time, so u cant compare Zabuza to them because they r way passed S rank am i right?

that does make sense... i am just saying that what KIshi is writing in now, it seems like current Genin and Jounin are better then the old Kages and legendary S-rank guys...

Zabuza in his day was a bad ass i will admit that.. but with Plot no Jutsu everyone currently had their power level sky rocket past 9000 so its way too hard to compare now with then.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

that does make sense... i am just saying that what KIshi is writing in now, it seems like current Genin and Jounin are better then the old Kages and legendary S-rank guys...

Zabuza in his day was a bad ass i will admit that.. but with Plot no Jutsu everyone currently had their power level sky rocket past 9000 so its way too hard to compare now with then.

Yea like the current genin and jounin seem so strong now because they r main characters who affect the plot, like look at all the other weak jounin, chunin, and genin they die so easily.

But I was talking to Blaze Release and we agreed that if Zabuza faced Darui it can go either way so Im trying to say is Darui is one of the guys who probably low kage level, he is basically the standards in part too. Basically the leaders of divisions are

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

zabuza is bad ass, any one who has the word demon in their nick name is simply BAD ASS and should be taken seriously