what makes adult naruto and sasuke stronger than VoTe 2?

[bowflex]

Anyone who actually knows biology knows you grow stronger with age. As proven by Itachi, Jiraiya, Madara, Hashirama, Tobirama, Naruto, Sasuke, etc. when you have proof of Naruto/Sasuke saying they lost RSM or Rikudo chakra thrn you can disprove us. Now, go on with your day sir.

u also grow weaker with age, current mike tyson vs 98 mike tyson who wins?

nice argument bringing real life aspect in to naruto, how about u show me a scan or feat? u lost this argument before u even started, nothing will disprove me but actual feats and scans. have a good night

 

[WalksInShadows]

i find it hilarious when ppl honestly believe folks get stronger just from growing older. Like they don't have to have a genetic predisposition to have a higher ceiling than other ppl and train...as well as keep strict dietary regimens to get there. No, they just sit back, consume w/e, and get older lol

Idrk about Naruto, but i'm in the same boat on this as far as Sasuke goes anyway. I haven't seen anything that that tells me he got stronger as opposed to just having a better lvl of skill.

 

[Uchihakil]

yea true dat,sasuke now has no bijuu PS meaning no indras arrow,he might make a weaker version since his susano is equiped with a bow and arrow and can use lightning but it will still be weaker,and naruto losing the goudodamas,the yin and yang seal etc,they have more experience and knowledge though,what is the meaning of vote pls?

 

[Math42]

no point in debating with you after reading this.

Well, I believe that Naruto and Sasuke were utilizing lower level techniques to emphasize that they are truly superior.

 

[DHOH]

u also grow weaker with age, current mike tyson vs 98 mike tyson who wins?

nice argument bringing real life aspect in to naruto, how about u show me a scan or feat? u lost this argument before u even started, nothing will disprove me but actual feats and scans. have a good night

If you don't believe a 30-33 year old is stronger than a 16- 17 year old version of himself then just quit.
You want scans and feats from what? A ten chapter manga compared to 698 chapters? Your argument is weak.

 

[DHOH]

yea true dat,sasuke now has no bijuu PS meaning no indras arrow,he might make a weaker version since his susano is equiped with a bow and arrow and can use lightning but it will still be weaker,and naruto losing the goudodamas,the yin and yang seal etc,they have more experience and knowledge though,what is the meaning of vote pls?

Everything you said about Sasuke was proving wrong in the Boruto movie.. Same Susanoo and much stronger/better feats in speed Taijutsu and strength.

 

[Omar19992010]

In certain things they have gotten stronger.

Sasuke in terms of Speed and strength is on par with RSM Naruto and he can now travel through dimensions and can use his Rinnegan better. Teen Sasuke never came close to that. I still believe VOTE II Sasuke is stronger than Adult Sasuke due to the fact Adult Sasuke doesn't have anywhere near the firepower his former self does.

Naruto should be stronger than his VOTE self. Full Kurama>Eight Bijuu.

 

[lndra]

Naruto's feat with Momoshiki's Bijuudama says a lot.

 

[Shruikan]

To be perfectly honest they both seem weaker than their War Arc selves

 

[Seventh Sama]

They're nerfed. That's why they aren't "impressive".

 

[DHOH]

In certain things they have gotten stronger.

Sasuke in terms of Speed and strength is on par with RSM Naruto and he can now travel through dimensions and can use his Rinnegan better. Teen Sasuke never came close to that. I still believe VOTE II Sasuke is stronger than Adult Sasuke due to the fact Adult Sasuke doesn't have anywhere near the firepower his former self does.

Naruto should be stronger than his VOTE self. Full Kurama>Eight Bijuu.

The problem here is Sasuke's power(humanoid susanoo) wasn't permanent, so give him a power he can't keep? On top of that Sasuke(adult) displayed the same power with his own strength without absorbing bijiuu chakra.. I don't get it. Adult Sasuke is better in every area.

 

[Ootoriyu Jin]

All assumption wiith no proof, feats are there, vote 2 feats are vastly better, the 'they didnt have to show their full power' excuse is a joke, toneri put the world in danger as much as kaguya and madara did, and momoshiki put their own children in danger, please find a better arguiment on why didnt adult naruto and sasuke used all these ''superior chakra power and skills'' then.

Vote 2 avatars shit on adult version sasuke and naruto, theres no disproving that, theres no evidence or feats to disprove that, hell adult naruto is yet to show full rsm, while his teen self was taking on kaguya alone and even blitzing her, momoshiki and toneri are jokes compared to jj madara and kaguya, yet our heroes who supposed to be ''far stronger'' struggled with them and even almost died.

Put vote 2 naruto and sasuke against toneri or momoshiki, hell even kaguya fightt version of them, see how long that last.

Its incredible, u guys have no type of proof let alone feat to believe adult naruto and sasuke are stronger, yet u blindly do so.


Any smart reader of the series goes by facts and feats not assumption.

This ^

OT: I honestly believe their adult versions are weaker than their VoTe 2 counterparts. Age =/= strength, experience = strength. Unless Boruto or the ninja hoes that Sasuke trains with are dishing out Kaguya level power I don't see why they would get stronger.

 

[Ambivalence]

Lmao, this again...

Naruto's 100% Kurama RSM craps on anything he could do back in VoTE, for the simple fact that Yang + Yin Kurama >>> bits of chakra from inferior Biju. All Naruto realistically lacks is the TSB, which canonically get cracked by any above average attack with Senjutsu enhancing it.

Sasuke wrecks meteors with base Chidori now, can dimension hop to completely different planets, can pressure a demi-god with just his 3T and taijutsu, and most importantly: is said by Kishimoto himself to be equal to Adult Naruto, ergo assuming they're currently weaker than their past selves would mean VoTE Sasuke>Adult Sasuke=Adult Naruto, and there's no way VoTE Sasuke is stronger than Hokage Naruto.

Naruto and Sasuke will most likely never be portrayed as strong as before, so stop looking for it - the only ones they're allowed to go all-out on are opponents that outclass them one-on-one (Kaguya) or are on their level (each other), meaning that unless Naruto and Sasuke clash again, you will never see their full, prime potential.

Any smart reader of the series goes by facts and feats not assumption.

Any sane reader just takes the author's word for it and moves on.

 

[SatanicGod]

They have more intelligence, more mastery with their abilities, more experience, and with age comes more chakra in their chakra pool...
All these factors make them better than their VOTE 2 forms

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Ridiculous post.

Mastered Rinnegan>Unmastered Rinnegan

Full Kyuubi>Half Kyuubi with portions of the other Bijuus chakra.

Sasuke developing his Rinnegan far enough to be able to teleport to Kaguya's dimensions goes to show his mastery over his powers... teleporting across dimensions even cost Kaguya alot of chakra.

I agree with Bowflex.

Sasuke has gotten weaker than his VOTE 2 self and he will never reach at that level of power again.

Whereas Kishi nerfed naruto to not let naruto use other 8 bijuu's chakra which makes naruto's RSM complete.Naruto is restricted to use his BSM with little bit of Rikoudo chakra.

Fail. Your post prove what I said to you the other day. You're just upset that Sasuke Is often placed above Naruto, so you constantly downplay him.

 

[take it easy]

Nothing really. Naruto didnt use his god-like taijutsu and speed. Sasuke didnt use his such overrated Rinnegan paths. Theyre both became weaker, especially Sasuke. Inb4 Kishi said theyre equals excuses incoming.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Nothing really. Naruto didnt use his god-like taijutsu and speed. Sasuke didnt use his such overrated Rinnegan paths. Theyre both became weaker, especially Sasuke. Inb4 Kishi said theyre equals excuses incoming.

Lol, so you believe you know the Authors story Better than he does? I remember you saying to me that if Masashi ever said they were equal you would admit It.

Sasuke actually showed alot of improvement whereas Naruto didn't. He's able to perform hand seals with one hand as he did in chapter 2 of Gaiden for a Lightning Style technique whilst holding his sword, and again for a Fire Ball technique. He also used Amenotejikara twice in a few seconds without showing any sign of exhaustion while being weakened from jumping dimension.

And he developed his Rinnegan far enough to be able to teleport to all of Kaguya's dimensions, which only Kaguya could do, and it even took her all of chakra, this goes to show his mastery over the Rinnegan, which Includes all of it's Paths.

 

[lndra]

Sigh if people keep saying Naruto didn't show improvements I'm going to have to make a post on it, cause it seems like people don't see them.

 

[DHOH]

Sigh if people keep saying Naruto didn't show improvements I'm going to have to make a post on it, cause it seems like people don't see them.

Not that he didn't show improvements, Sasuke showed more an easier to point out.

 

[lndra]

Not that he didn't show improvements, Sasuke showed more an easier to point out.

They both seemed to have pulled new things out. Naruto's been doing it since the Last, all the way to the Gaiden, and even pulled some good feats in the Movie before they fought Momoshiki.

Though I do understand things like the new 'S/T Jutsu', though. In Naruto's case he's learned to manipulate the Kyuubi chakra in Base without needing to be V1, V2, or any chakra mode (what's funny is that we do see Naruto in V1 in the Boruto Movie, he uses it to block Momoshiki's fire in Base. It looked weird though)