what makes adult naruto and sasuke stronger than VoTe 2?

[bowflex]

OP, I think Adult Naruto and sasuke are stronger. They didn't lose any power or ability from the VOTE. They have became more skilled.



Not this BS again. Naruto being in RSM doesn't mean he is using RSM to increase his strength, speed, or taijutsu. The movie never showed Naruto using RSM to increase his strength, speed, or taijutsu. Naruto has control of his RSM and he can chose to use it's power or not. If he does use it he it he has control over of much power he uses.

- Naruto never used Frog Fu during is battle. So Sasuke didn't match is RSM taijutsu.

- Naruto from the Bolt movie didn't use the same level of strength as he did during Naruto the Last where he was only using partial KSM (KCM+SM). So Sasuke didn't match RSM strength.

- Naruto didn't use RSM to increase his speed. If Sasuke was as fast as Naruto using RSM to increase his speed than Sasuke wouldn't have been forced to use his body to block Shin's blades to save sarada -

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- He would have easily moved her out of the way and evaded the attack.

After Naruto faced A he became the fastest ninja alive. Yet, right after that battle Killer Bee was moving as fast as Naruto -

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- we know Killer Bee is not as fast as Naruto. That means, even though Naruto had KCM active, he wasn't using it to increase his speed.

ignore DHOH im sure he is trolling, and OT i need to see better feats before i can agree with you.

adult naruto and sasuke feats are subpar compared to the ones they portrayed in the madara, kaguya and vote 2 fights

 

[KidGamer65]

OP, I think Adult Naruto and sasuke are stronger. They didn't lose any power or ability from the VOTE. They have became more skilled.



Not this BS again. Naruto being in RSM doesn't mean he is using RSM to increase his strength, speed, or taijutsu. The movie never showed Naruto using RSM to increase his strength, speed, or taijutsu. Naruto has control of his RSM and he can chose to use it's power or not. If he does use it he it he has control over of much power he uses.

- Naruto never used Frog Fu during is battle. So Sasuke didn't match is RSM taijutsu.

- Naruto from the Bolt movie didn't use the same level of strength as he did during Naruto the Last where he was only using partial KSM (KCM+SM). So Sasuke didn't match RSM strength.

- Naruto didn't use RSM to increase his speed. If Sasuke was as fast as Naruto using RSM to increase his speed than Sasuke wouldn't have been forced to use his body to block Shin's blades to save sarada -

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- He would have easily moved her out of the way and evaded the attack.

After Naruto faced A he became the fastest ninja alive. Yet, right after that battle Killer Bee was moving as fast as Naruto -

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- we know Killer Bee is not as fast as Naruto. That means, even though Naruto had KCM active, he wasn't using it to increase his speed.

After tearing apart this garbage argument, you come back to another thread and repeat the same horseshit word for word. Literally. Boy. Oh. Boy.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

I agree with Bowflex.

Sasuke has gotten weaker than his VOTE 2 self and he will never reach at that level of power again.

Whereas Kishi nerfed naruto to not let naruto use other 8 bijuu's chakra which makes naruto's RSM complete.Naruto is restricted to use his BSM with little bit of Rikoudo chakra.

 

[KingHashirama]

taijutsu? doesnt make a big difference when you have six arm kuramas, tsb, susano with all bijuu chakra and indra arrow.

Doesn't make a difference? lol man, did you see how Madara mercked Sasuke and Naruto?

 

[bowflex]

Doesn't make a difference? lol man, did you see how Madara mercked Sasuke and Naruto?

lol thats different , once avatars are out taijutsu is void.

 

[KingHashirama]

lol thats different , once avatars are out taijutsu is void.

Once the avatars are out, the expereince and usage of techniques still kicks in. And even skills with the avatars come in.

 

[bowflex]

After tearing apart this garbage argument, you come back to another thread and repeat the same horseshit word for word. Literally. Boy. Oh. Boy.

kg ur opinion on topic?

 

[bowflex]

Once the avatars are out, the expereince and usage of techniques still kicks in. And even skills with the avatars come in.

raw power from their vote 2 avatars would negete all that, not to mentien their speed asnd reflexes feats in their adult forms are subpar compared to their former feats in the madara,kaguya and vote 2 fights

 

[shadowcb]

ignore DHOH im sure he is trolling, and OT i need to see better feats before i can agree with you.

adult naruto and sasuke feats are subpar compared to the ones they portrayed in the madara, kaguya and vote 2 fights

I can understand why they appear to be subpar, but I think it is because Kishi has made Naruto and Sasuke too powerful. They must be nerfed for their opponents to be a threat to them. IE: Naruto from Naruto the Last. He was so powerful Kishi limited Naruto to KSM (KCM+SM). If Naruto would have used any level/mode above that then Toneri wouldn't have been a threat to him.

After tearing apart this garbage argument, you come back to another thread and repeat the same horseshit word for word. Literally. Boy. Oh. Boy.

You didn't tear anything apart. You just chose to ignore facts like so many others have. I provided scenes showing KCM Naruto and Killer Bee moving at the same speed, even though KCM Naruto is faster than Killer Bee. That proves KCM Naruto can control his speed and move at different speeds. You are the one trying to clam Naruto can't control his speed and must always move at his fastest speed which is not true.

 

[bowflex]

I can understand why they appear to be subpar, but I think it is because Kishi has made Naruto and Sasuke too powerful. They must be nerfed for their opponents to be a threat to them. IE: Naruto from Naruto the Last. He was so powerful Kishi limited Naruto to KSM (KCM+SM). If Naruto would have used any level/mode above that then Toneri wouldn't have been a threat to him.



You didn't tear anything apart. You just chose to ignore facts like so many others have. I provided scenes showing KCM Naruto and Killer Bee moving at the same speed, even though KCM Naruto is faster than Killer Bee. That proves KCM Naruto can control his speed and move at different speeds. You are the one trying to clam Naruto can't control his speed and must always move at his fastest speed which is not true.

i dont think they got nerfed, after 15 years of peace it wouldnt make sense if they got stronger.. they will never face an enemy as strong as kaguya or jj madara. that was their prime.

their adult form feats are jokes, u cannot somehow just look pass that and say they got stronger for what ever reason.

 

[savageuchiha]

So basically they both are like gohan from dbz....

 

[savageuchiha]

Plus, itachi told you...u are nothing because you lack hate..that's y he sucks

 

[savageuchiha]

He doesn't suck....he just isn't at potential.. I'm not character bashing

 

[Eng nawashi]

agreed ,sasuke is inferior to vote 2 version ,naruto would be inferior if hre cant enter ashura avatar without the perfect RSM .

 

[Nick01]

They haven't had anyone worthy enough for them to display their full powers.
They are both far superior than they were in vote 2.

 

[Cyber]

They didn't have to show their full power (not Naruto at least) that's why he didn't curb stomp Momoshiki or Toneri. And he obviously is still training with Boruto so his skills aren't depleting. Gohan still has SSJ2 after not doing any training at all for 7 years, Naruto can still call the bijuu to give him chakra for RSM and he also has Hashi cells which we all know is basically Narutoverses steroids. Now, Sasuke's skills have gotten better if he can keep up with Naruto with 1 arm, and he probably perfected his chidori even more. Probably worked on his genjutsu too.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Experience, mature chakra level, mature body, more refine reflex and speed, well-versed with their power although in Gaiden Kishi went full Re***d.

 

[bowflex]

They haven't had anyone worthy enough for them to display their full powers.
They are both far superior than they were in vote 2.

They didn't have to show their full power (not Naruto at least) that's why he didn't curb stomp Momoshiki or Toneri. And he obviously is still training with Boruto so his skills aren't depleting. Gohan still has SSJ2 after not doing any training at all for 7 years, Naruto can still call the bijuu to give him chakra for RSM and he also has Hashi cells which we all know is basically Narutoverses steroids. Now, Sasuke's skills have gotten better if he can keep up with Naruto with 1 arm, and he probably perfected his chidori even more. Probably worked on his genjutsu too.

Experience, mature chakra level, mature body, more refine reflex and speed, well-versed with their power although in Gaiden Kishi went full Re***d.

All assumption wiith no proof, feats are there, vote 2 feats are vastly better, the 'they didnt have to show their full power' excuse is a joke, toneri put the world in danger as much as kaguya and madara did, and momoshiki put their own children in danger, please find a better arguiment on why didnt adult naruto and sasuke used all these ''superior chakra power and skills'' then.

Vote 2 avatars shit on adult version sasuke and naruto, theres no disproving that, theres no evidence or feats to disprove that, hell adult naruto is yet to show full rsm, while his teen self was taking on kaguya alone and even blitzing her, momoshiki and toneri are jokes compared to jj madara and kaguya, yet our heroes who supposed to be ''far stronger'' struggled with them and even almost died.

Put vote 2 naruto and sasuke against toneri or momoshiki, hell even kaguya fightt version of them, see how long that last.

Its incredible, u guys have no type of proof let alone feat to believe adult naruto and sasuke are stronger, yet u blindly do so.


Any smart reader of the series goes by facts and feats not assumption.

 

[DHOH]

ignore DHOH im sure he is trolling, and OT i need to see better feats before i can agree with you.

adult naruto and sasuke feats are subpar compared to the ones they portrayed in the madara, kaguya and vote 2 fights

Your problem and most Naruto fan problems are all the same. You keep putting Sasuke in the same category as Naruto after the VOTE2 battle. Sasuke showed much improvement where as naruto not so much... Not saying he didn't just that he didn't show it.. You are the one trolling.

Of course there feats are sub par when all they had was 10 chapters and a movie to show them.. Common sense would say they gotten stronger(especially) Sasuke when they didnt lose anything to get weaker.

 

[Cyber]

All assumption wiith no proof, feats are there, vote 2 feats are vastly better, the 'they didnt have to show their full power' excuse is a joke, toneri put the world in danger as much as kaguya and madara did, and momoshiki put their own children in danger, please find a better arguiment on why didnt adult naruto and sasuke used all these ''superior chakra power and skills'' then.

Vote 2 avatars shit on adult version sasuke and naruto, theres no disproving that, theres no evidence or feats to disprove that, hell adult naruto is yet to show full rsm, while his teen self was taking on kaguya alone and even blitzing her, momoshiki and toneri are jokes compared to jj madara and kaguya, yet our heroes who supposed to be ''far stronger'' struggled with them and even almost died.

Put vote 2 naruto and sasuke against toneri or momoshiki, hell even kaguya fightt version of them, see how long that last.

Its incredible, u guys have no type of proof let alone feat to believe adult naruto and sasuke are stronger, yet u blindly do so.


Any smart reader of the series goes by facts and feats not assumption.

Anyone who actually knows biology knows you grow stronger with age. As proven by Itachi, Jiraiya, Madara, Hashirama, Tobirama, Naruto, Sasuke, etc. when you have proof of Naruto/Sasuke saying they lost RSM or Rikudo chakra thrn you can disprove us. Now, go on with your day sir.