What little respect I had for Ramsay snow vanished (spoilers )

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So for those of you who saw battle of the bastards and the finale Ramsay went straight up the list of pathetic characters

His final stand was beyond cowardly there are quite a few characters in the show who were not as wimpy as him

I understand the first shot but then he just kept firing arrows instead of begin a man using a sword and at least trying to fight back

At Least Ollie may he burn in 7 hells tried to fight back
Sam when he was the biggest coward fought a white walker
Theon grew a pair and defied Ramsay
Tommen u can mock him all u want but not many would have the nerve or resolve to just commit suicide
Lancel still fought at the battle of BlackWater
One of those priests guys had the ballz to fight Gregor despite dying terribly
Even robin during his crappy training still kept at it despite him falling. Over and crying
But Ramsay decided he was gonna be a wimp glad he died like a little Beyotch

Reason Called him snow and not Bolton cause he doesn't deserve the name Bolton he is the true meaning of the title bastard

He is a disgrace to the Bolton name
 

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The concept of "being a man" or "honor" is retarded. There is no honor in death. You win by any means necessary, that's the only victory, who cares how you do it?

Can't believe you rationalize "the courage to commit suicide," then have any credibility to call someone cowardly.
 

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The concept of "being a man" or "honor" is retarded. There is no honor in death. You win by any means necessary, that's the only victory, who cares how you do it?

Can't believe you rationalize "the courage to commit suicide," then have any credibility to call someone cowardly.
So your going to shoot at someone after the first arrow failed and keep on shooting as they get closer and closer ?

And I didn't say honor anywhere yea Ramsay wasn't ensign a man he was being a punk I already said I can see why he fired the 1st shot that made sense but the rest was pathetic he dint even put up a fight or try

Yep I do Tommen who has been weak willed from the very beginning letting his mom and others boss him around always insecure unsure made a choice didn't hesitate didn't cry about it didn't falter he put his crown down and fell to his death.

But I guess a guy like u thinks only people who kill themselves while taking others with them is awesome

I hope u didn't Think the black fish went out with style he went out like a fool
 
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So your going to shoot at someone after the first arrow failed and keep on shooting as they get closer and closer ?

And I didn't say honor anywhere yea Ramsay wasn't ensign a man he was being a punk I already said I can see why he fired the 1st shot that made sense but the rest was pathetic he dint even put up a fight or try
Why would any rational or sane person intentionally gimp themselves by using a form of combat they were not as proficient in, when there was another, more viable form of combat they were more proficient in, sitting right in front of them?

They would have to be the worst tactician in the history of the world.

"Deidara sure is a coward. Dude didn't even try to fight Sasuke in sword combat."
 

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Why would any rational or sane person intentionally gimp themselves by using a form of combat they were not as proficient in, when there was another, more viable form of combat they were more proficient in, sitting right in front of them?

They would have to be the worst tactician in the history of the world.

"Deidara sure is a coward. Dude didn't even try to fight Sasuke in sword combat."
Yea but he managed to use the kunai In mouth to escape team Gai and kakashi

Also I said why would anyone keep firing at a target getting closer and closer he stood there and just got bashed by a shield but I guess a good archer would try to stab someone with an arrow and not draw his blade

Despite the scene where Ramsay cut down one of stannis soldiers with a sword
 

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Yea but he managed to use the kunai In mouth to escape team Gai and kakashi

Also I said why would anyone keep firing at a target getting closer and closer he stood there and just got bashed by a shield but I guess a good archer would try to stab someone with an arrow and not draw his blade

Despite the scene where Ramsay cut down one of stannis soldiers with a sword
You really don't get it at all.

Jon is one of the best combatants in the world at the moment. Using a ranged weapon was the only way Ramsay even had a chance of victory. At all. Period.

It's not cowardly, it's not weak, it's the most sensible strategy to use.
 

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So for those of you who saw battle of the bastards and the finale Ramsay went straight up the list of pathetic characters

His final stand was beyond cowardly there are quite a few characters in the show who were not as wimpy as him

I understand the first shot but then he just kept firing arrows instead of begin a man using a sword and at least trying to fight back

At Least Ollie may he burn in 7 hells tried to fight back
Sam when he was the biggest coward fought a white walker
Theon grew a pair and defied Ramsay
Tommen u can mock him all u want but not many would have the nerve or resolve to just commit suicide
Lancel still fought at the battle of BlackWater
One of those priests guys had the ballz to fight Gregor despite dying terribly
Even robin during his crappy training still kept at it despite him falling. Over and crying
But Ramsay decided he was gonna be a wimp glad he died like a little Beyotch

Reason Called him snow and not Bolton cause he doesn't deserve the name Bolton he is the true meaning of the title bastard

He is a disgrace to the Bolton name
Ramsey has always been like this: a cruel, selfish, cowardly bastard (both literally as figuratively) that used the Botlon name whenever it suited him. He has always been in situations where he had absolute control: he sacked Winterfell despite the Ironborn having surrendered. He hunted down women with his dogs on grounds he was familiar with and that were simply impossible to escape from. He took Moat Cailin from a host of Ironborn whose moral was extremely low after having been harassed for months by the Crannogmen and this list goes on and on. Ramsey never involved himself in situations where he could not control the outcome.

The concept of "being a man" or "honor" is retarded. There is no honor in death. You win by any means necessary, that's the only victory, who cares how you do it?

Can't believe you rationalize "the courage to commit suicide," then have any credibility to call someone cowardly.
To be honest I agree with him on the suicide part, though courage would not be the best word to describe it. Tommen has always been indecisive, full of doubts and never felt comfortable sitting on the Iron Throne. However in his final moments for once he was resolute in his decision. Everyone is always scheming, betraying and murdering to get on the Iron Throne and he, who by chance ended up sitting on it, realized that it's not worth it, that's it's a poisonous gift. He had a brief moment of clarity about the truth of the situation, a truth that Cersei is completely oblivious to: they have lost.

They have lost the North that has become independent...again. The Vale, who are the only ones who still are at full military strength, is currently allied with the North. The Freys barely can control the Riverlands and now that Walder Frey is dead, it will all fall apart and the chances are high many River Lords will ally themselves with the North and the Vale. Cersei declared war on both the Tyrells and the Martels and the Stormlands were already pretty much down for the count. On top of all that Daenarys Targaryen is coming with an armada of Ironborn ships, 100 000 Dothraki and several thousands of Unsullied and she has the support of both the Martels and the Tyrells. So the Lannisters have no allies, their money is running, their armies have dwindled and the only thing they control are the Westerlands and King's Landing. And what does Cersei do? Place her ass on the throne =/

Granted Tommen couldn't have known all of this, many of these things even transpired after his death, however after all the problems and conflicts he already had to face and then that happens? I wouldn't use the word courageous, but at least he realized how late it was. Cersei continuously preforms such stupendous actions like these to solve one problem while not realizing she's creating ten additional more. Even Jaimie knows this is wrong. In that regard I have more respect for Tommen as he isn't fooling himself anymore.
 

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Why would any rational or sane person intentionally gimp themselves by using a form of combat they were not as proficient in, when there was another, more viable form of combat they were more proficient in, sitting right in front of them?

They would have to be the worst tactician in the history of the world.

"Deidara sure is a coward. Dude didn't even try to fight Sasuke in sword combat."
That comparison is completely wrong as Deidara and Sasuke are ninja. By their very nature they're supposed to be stealthy, sneaky and use trickery to assassinate their targets. That's something completely different from someone who is the head of an important medieval house.

And Jon proposed a one on one fight, Ramsey refused. Now that he did that is logical as he had the advantage. However when it was obvious that he completely lost and then suddenly goes back on that proposal, is sad. That the then starts shooting arrows at Jon is even sadder. His death, or in the least his loss, was guaranteed. He was surrounded on all sides by archers who could have shot him full of holes at any time. His performance was plainly pathetic. That he was less proficient in sword fighting than in archery is really no excuse, his faith was sealed.
 

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The concept of "being a man" or "honor" is retarded. There is no honor in death. You win by any means necessary, that's the only victory, who cares how you do it?

Can't believe you rationalize "the courage to commit suicide," then have any credibility to call someone cowardly.
Yes it does but you are to retarded to understand that.
 
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