What I've notice about Susanoo

[SenseiSama]

What I've notice about Susanoo is that when the topic of how powerful, larger, or durable Susanoo is...
Nobody knows what the hell they're talking about.
You can't make a Susanoo anymore durable than it is and you certainly can't make them any larger either. The only case when we had that is in a videogame with a juubi jinchuuriki Madara, besides that you're just playing yourself. If you wanna make your Susanoo any better than it is, pull a Sasuke...

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And use the bijuu chakra to make some transformer shit. Other than that all V1, V2, V3, V4, Iso, and perfect/complete Susanoo are the same level of durability/Power/Size.

Because I sure don't see any significant difference.

Yes and no, you can make it larger, but it's limit is PS. After that only Susanoo users with Sage chakra and Sasuke's skill can pull a COAT feat by changing its shape and size to whatever they want.

 

[true enigma]

Theyve shown over and over how susanoo changes shape and size... Do u honestly believe it for no reason but eye candy

 

[Purple Arrow]

Theyve shown over and over how susanoo changes shape and size... Do u honestly believe it for no reason but eye candy

OT: Some Uchiha males have bigger susanoos than others, definitely eye candy :ls:

I think the size of the PS also depends on the chakra user... And otherwise maybe they can change the size to some what, but probably not bigger than the PS, because they could use it as armor over Kurama and the shape of it had to change, and also the size, it wasn't PS on Kurama

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

That doesn't make sense. How is Madara's PS equivalent to Rikudou Sasuke's PS in Power and Durability?

Yeah it is.

Are you saying that there is no difference in the durability per unit between ribcage and PS? I must have misunderstood, because that's ludicrous.

I'm saying that every Perfect Susanoo we've seen so far all have the same durability.
All the ribcage susanoo's have the same durability as well.

Naruto's big ball rasengan. (which onoki increased the impact from the earth style platform raise).

Then the same logic applies to any other ribcage Susanoo.
Mei's acid jutsu was able to melt both Ms and edo madara's ribcage Susanoo, there is no discrimination in terms of durability here.

Theyve shown over and over how susanoo changes shape and size... Do u honestly believe it for no reason but eye candy

I'm not talking about Iso Susanoo to Perfect Susanoo transformation.
What they've never shown is another person with the same version of susanoo being bigger or stronger than someone else.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Are you serious with this statement?->"Other than that all V1, V2, V3, V4, Iso, and perfect/complete Susanoo are the same level of durability/Power/Size."

You think and just saying skeletal susanoo have same durability as full body and proper form susanoo like V4 and PS. Do you honestly thinking Tsunade can crack PS body as she did with skeletal usanoo? I dont think so.

It take Shinsuusenju to damage a complete PS. But it still not completely destroy and you think skeletal susanoo can survive and in same condition as PS when facing with Shinsusenju attack?

Susanoo is like a body with a stage of form. From lower and weaker skeletal form to stronger and proper complete form with armor and outer layer that works like flesh covering the skeleton like human body

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Are you serious with this statement?->"Other than that all V1, V2, V3, V4, Iso, and perfect/complete Susanoo are the same level of durability/Power/Size."

You think and just saying skeletal susanoo have same durability as full body and proper form susanoo like V4 and PS. Do you honestly thinking Tsunade can crack PS body as she did with skeletal usanoo? I dont think so.

That's not what I said at all, you completely took my post out of context.

It take Shinsuusenju to damage a complete PS. But it still not completely destroy and you think skeletal susanoo can survive and in same condition as PS when facing with Shinsusenju attack?

Susanoo is like a body with a stage of form. From lower and weaker skeletal form to stronger and proper complete form with armor and outer layer that works like flesh covering the skeleton like human body

Read what NarutoX28 said.

I think he's saying that someone's Ribcage Susano'o is just as durable as any other Ribcage Susano'o, someone's V1 Susano'o has the same durability as any other V1 Susano'o, and etcetra.

^This is what my thread is exactly about.

 

[Da Best Ever]

All Susano are different between user that's why they have distinct colors to show the difference not only does the chakra of the user represent the color of the Susano but it also impacts the power of the Susanoo...


Madara's ps is much larger than sasuke's and dms kakashi's for sure...his PS towered over mountains several times over, so with greater size comes greater durable and strength...

Sasuke's ps has wings and can fly which means it has greater defenses due to flight and maneuverability and agility meaning unlike madara's who's slow moving sasuke's is very agile as seen several times...


DSM obito/kakashi ps has flight like sasuke's I expect that has something to do with rikudo chakra but there is no significant difference between his and sasuke's other than the type of jutsu his can use, sasuke uses chidori while his can use the raikiri and kamui so sasuke's can't use a s/t jutsu like kakashi's can even though sasuke has a s/t jutsu

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Madara's ps is much larger than sasuke's and dms kakashi's for sure...his PS towered over mountains several times over, so with greater size comes greater durable and strength...

No it's not, fanfic. It's the same size, durability, and strength as Sasuke's and Kakashi's.

Sasuke's ps has wings and can fly which means it has greater defenses due to flight and maneuverability and agility meaning unlike madara's who's slow moving sasuke's is very agile as seen several times...

All Susanoo have wings and can fly

DSM obito/kakashi ps has flight like sasuke's I expect that has something to do with rikudo chakra but there is no significant difference between his and sasuke's other than the type of jutsu his can use, sasuke uses chidori while his can use the raikiri and kamui so sasuke's can't use a s/t jutsu like kakashi's can even though sasuke has a s/t jutsu

Madara and Sasuke all have rikudou chakra, so rikudou chakra has nothing to do with Kakashi's perfect susanoo size and power. It's all the same damn thing.

 

[Holy God]

So they can twist, and deform Susano'o to fit snug as a bug in a rug around a quadrupedal fox creature, but can't make it even an inch thicker or taller?

That seems fishy.

The point he's trying to get across is that if someone normally uses Perfect Susano'o, the result would end up like anyone else's. Through will I'm sure it theoretically wouldn't be hard to change size however (though what you're talking about is a different technique, Majestic Attire: Susano'o).

 

[Sasuke of the akatsuki]

Are you serious with this statement?->"Other than that all V1, V2, V3, V4, Iso, and perfect/complete Susanoo are the same level of durability/Power/Size."

You think and just saying skeletal susanoo have same durability as full body and proper form susanoo like V4 and PS. Do you honestly thinking Tsunade can crack PS body as she did with skeletal usanoo? I dont think so.

It take Shinsuusenju to damage a complete PS. But it still not completely destroy and you think skeletal susanoo can survive and in same condition as PS when facing with Shinsusenju attack?

Susanoo is like a body with a stage of form. From lower and weaker skeletal form to stronger and proper complete form with armor and outer layer that works like flesh covering the skeleton like human body

He isn't saying that all levels of Susanoo have the same durability. He's saying that every Susanoo user has the same durability in each form. Ex. Sasuke's lvl1 Susanoo= Itachi's lvl1 susanoo= Madara's lvl1 Susanoo. And so on so forth.

Although I don't agree with this logic because Susanoo is a Materialization of a user's chakra. If one has powerful chakra then their susnoo will have higher durability and power then someone with less powerful chakra.

 

[The Necromancer]

The point he's trying to get across is that if someone normally uses Perfect Susano'o, the result would end up like anyone else's. Through will I'm sure it theoretically wouldn't be hard to change size however (though what you're talking about is a different technique, Majestic Attire: Susano'o).

Yes I know, but that's stupid.

PS has the ability to morph into a fox, complete with fangs, claws, and 9 tails that span the length of the fox's body, but it can't grow even a single inch taller? That's retarded.

He isn't saying that all levels of Susanoo have the same durability. He's saying that every Susanoo user has the same durability in each form. Ex. Sasuke's lvl1 Susanoo= Itachi's lvl1 susanoo= Madara's lvl1 Susanoo. And so on so forth.

Although I don't agree with this logic because Susanoo is a Materialization of a user's chakra. If one has powerful chakra then their susnoo will have higher durability and power then someone with less powerful chakra.

This. No two jutsus are the same. Sasuke's chakra was stronger than Itachi's which is why his fireball overpowered Itachi's.

The same logic applies to the size, shape, power, and durability of Susano'o as well.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Yes I know, but that's stupid.

PS has the ability to morph into a fox, complete with fangs, claws, and 9 tails that span the length of the fox's body, but it can't grow even a single inch taller? That's retarded.



This. No two jutsus are the same. Sasuke's chakra was stronger than Itachi's which is why his fireball overpowered Itachi's.

The same logic applies to the size, shape, power, and durability of Susano'o as well.

That logic doesn't apply to Susanoo whatsoever.
Look at edo madara's defense against mei's acid and now look at Ms sasuke.

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See how the ribcage of both of these Susanoo's are melting despite edo madara having the rinnegan and Sasuke having MS.
Look at EMS Sasuke and MS Itachi's Susanoo

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Don't tell me Sasuke's Susanoo is larger or more durable than Itachi's Susanoo just because he has EMS and Itachi doesn't. It's the same height, same power, and same durability.

 

[Yatori]

March is going to be a long month with all these Hitachi threads.

And i just thought we can get over sakura thread lol.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Its weird how lava/acid can melt chakra? its not a metal or some sort of material but a chakra only it sturdy. Oh I forgot it Kishi's logic afterall.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Its weird how lava/acid can melt chakra? its not a metal or some sort of material but a chakra only it sturdy. Oh I forgot it Kishi's logic afterall.

Well I mean jutsus can burn jutsus but it's whatever. But the point to my thread is see how durable edo madara's susanoo ribcage was against the lava/acid? It was exactly the same as MS Sasuke. And MS sasuke doesn't have rikudou chakra/rinnegan.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Well I mean jutsus can burn jutsus but it's whatever. But the point to my thread is see how durable edo madara's susanoo ribcage was against the lava/acid? It was exactly the same as MS Sasuke. And MS sasuke doesn't have rikudou chakra/rinnegan.

Sure it is. At first I think you are saying all Susanoo on every level have same durability.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Sure it is. At first I think you are saying all Susanoo on every level have same durability.

All users. There's no way V1 susanoo is having the same durability as V3. I'm not dumb enough to say something like that.

 

[Ansatsuken]

All users. There's no way V1 susanoo is having the same durability as V3. I'm not dumb enough to say something like that.

You sure you're not playing dumb sometime?

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

You sure you're not playing dumb sometime?

Like when?

 

[Ansatsuken]

Like when?

Like one time but I dont remember it well