What is wrong with pairings?

[Koshej]

LMAO.Naruto had much deeper quotes with Sasuke than these you just pulled.

And if thats all you got in 700 chapters of a 15 year old manga,ignorance indeed.Naruto paid more attention to the ramen guy than Hinata Lol

Funny thing being Sasuke also has a similar quote regarding Sakura in Part 1

1. You must be blind to NOT see me repeatedly saying that I don't even consider NaruHina to BE a "romantic" pairing to begin with - except that I rather LIKE it this way.
2. In that light, Naruto HAS acknowledged Hinata A LOT - in QUALITY, not QUANTITY.
My examples are of those moments that are UNIQUE to Hinata from Naruto's side, as opposed to his interaction with Sakura.
3. And SasuSaku is CANON as well, so what's your point?
Except that Hinata actually KNOWS why she likes Naruto - and so do we from her speech.

 

[Koshej]

Indeed.It must have taken a great deal of patience to deal with "nothingness" after 615 while Naruto didnt even think about Hinata for 90% of the manga after her confession and seemed fine with it

The Last is even worse with its TWO-YEAR time skip, so what?
I still say that NaruHina didn't even NEED the "romantic" subplot for them to happen.
I like them for DIFFERENT reasons to begin with.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Exactly my point, NaruHina NEEDED the movie to become relevant in the eyes of viewers and be remembered. Otherwise in the manga SasuSaku got much more panel time from the start and would be remembered more as they are both part of the main squad, obviously they can't have the "hero"'s love story over shadowed by his rival's hence the movie. Which is fine really, but now all of a sudden people are claiming NaruHina was always so important while the rest is fan service LOL.

What point are you talking about? Because I never claimed that NaruHina needed a movie to be remembered? I just claimed that SasuSaku has a far more chances of being remembered since both characters in it were main characters. That does not change the fact that the negetivity it gets for abuse. To be honest I wanted SasuSaku to be in this movie along with NaruHina so it's able to justify its ship. At the moment SasuSaku is left with negetive moments in the manga. How can you be happy with that even as a fan?

Funny, how even "Hinata-fans" start assaulting me when I openly tell my REAL LIFE reasons for liking her.
Not the first time actually.
Makes me worry even MORE...

The issue is that you are getting a bit too emotional over a fictional character thats not even real. I think that alone is a worring sign for you.

 

[Koshej]

The issue is that you are getting a bit too emotional over a fictional character thats not even real. I think that alone is a worring sign for you.

That's THE problem here.
To all of you, she's just a random fictional character.
To me, she's fictional character with an important LESSON behind it.
And when I see people seemingly shrugging that LESSON off (which typically means practical Hinata-hating) - I get really upset because of THAT, not because someone doesn't like the same character that I do (which never was an issue for me with OTHER 9000+ characters in fiction).
Is that SO hard to understand?

 

[BLAZE]

ignore me i m just here to spam

 

[Shruikan]

That's THE problem here.
To all of you, she's just a random fictional character.
To me, she's fictional character with an important LESSON behind it.
And when I see people seemingly shrugging that LESSON off (which typically means practical Hinata-hating) - I get really upset because of THAT, not because someone doesn't like the same character that I do (which never was an issue for me with OTHER 9000+ characters in fiction).
Is that SO hard to understand?

There is nothing deep to Hinata.Its a trope thats been done to death before in shonens albeit in a much more convincing manner than in Naruto also known as Yamato Nadeshiko

Both NaruHina and SasuSaku are extremely wrong if we compare it to real life.In SasuSaku Kishi is basically teaching girls that no matter how much a guy treats you like shit,dont grow a spine and find someone to put him in his place all the while when he abuses you and then jump on his D and get impregnated when he does a forehead flick and a sorry because as per Kishi logic "Switching from Sasuke makes Sakura a terrible woman"

In NaruHina even if a guy ignores a girl's love confession for 2 years straight,you need to persist for unnatural periods of time till you get his D.In real life your best bet is 8 months to a year before the girl moves on

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

That's THE problem here.
To all of you, she's just a random fictional character.
To me, she's fictional character with an important LESSON behind it.
And when I see people seemingly shrugging that LESSON off (which typically means practical Hinata-hating) - I get really upset because of THAT, not because someone doesn't like the same character that I do (which never was an issue for me with OTHER 9000+ characters in fiction).
Is that SO hard to understand?

What lessons you learned off Hinata? Enlighten me.

 

[Koshej]

There is nothing deep to Hinata.Its a trope thats been done to death before in shonens albeit in a much more convincing manner than in Naruto also known as Yamato Nadeshiko

Both NaruHina and SasuSaku are extremely wrong if we compare it to real life.

In NaruHina even if a guy ignores a girl's love confession for 2 years straight,you need to persist for unnatural periods of time till you get his D.In real life your best bet is 8 months to a year before the girl moves on

Look, name me another character that was ready to willingly die for someone who kept ignoring them (cause Hinata was ready to die AGAIN in 614, despite 437 NOT gaining her anything on the romantic front).
Also, you obviously get the LESSON wrong.
1. It's NOT even about girls and couples to begin with.
It's about "what is true LOVE" - and it doesn't even have ROMANTIC connotation to it as a prerequisite.
I'd even say that the starters of this LESSON were Naruto's parents, except it's much more natural for a parent to sacrifice themselves for their child, than for a "stranger" to do it for someone they came to love NOT due to NATURAL reasons.
2. The LESSON isn't even about DYING either.
It's about putting someone else's goodness before YOURS.
It's about the IDEA of selflessness, not so much necessarily about DYING for someone.
But would you, for example, SACRIFICE some of your TIME for a person who considers you a stranger?
Yes, it STARTS with those you LOVE - but the LESSON is about how "love leads to personal sacrifices", while NOT meaning actually DYING for someone.
It's as much about SACRIFICING your TIME and COMFORT as well.
3. In any case, that is what I FELT during watching the Confession scene - and all the additional reading only INCREASED this feeling.
So far, nothing led me to CHANGE this impression I got in 2012 - so none of your banter will either.
The end.

What lessons you learned off Hinata? Enlighten me.

Read this post.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Look, name me another character that was ready to willingly die for someone who kept ignoring them (cause Hinata was ready to die AGAIN in 614, despite 437 NOT gaining her anything on the romantic front).
Also, you obviously get the LESSON wrong.
1. It's NOT even about girls and couples to begin with.
It's about "what is true LOVE" - and it doesn't even have ROMANTIC connotation to it as a prerequisite.
I'd even say that the starters of this LESSON were Naruto's parents, except it's much more natural for a parent to sacrifice themselves for their child, than for a "stranger" to do it for someone they came to love NOT due to NATURAL reasons.
2. The LESSON isn't even about DYING either.
It's about putting someone else's goodness before YOURS.
It's about the IDEA of selflessness, not so much necessarily about DYING for someone.
But would you, for example, SACRIFICE some of your TIME for a person who considers you a stranger?
Yes, it STARTS with those you LOVE - but the LESSON is about how "love leads to personal sacrifices", while NOT meaning actually DYING for someone.
It's as much about SACRIFICING your TIME and COMFORT as well.
3. In any case, that is what I FELT during watching the Confession scene - and all the additional reading only INCREASED this feeling.
So far, nothing led me to CHANGE this impression I got in 2012 - so none of your banter will either.
The end.

Well it seems you learned the lessons of love. Yet never learned one of the most important lessons from Hinata. Accepting others for who they are and not who they are not. Did she ever try to hurt others who did not agree with her? Did she ever get pissed at people when they went against her? Well no, not as far as I know. Maybe you should learn that aspect from Hinata. Because it will help you in a long run.

 

[Koshej]

Accepting others for who they are and not who they are not.

Great point.
I see no relevance to me, though, cause it DOESN'T mean "accept everyone's bullshit".

 

[Endles Waltz]

What point are you talking about? Because I never claimed that NaruHina needed a movie to be remembered? I just claimed that SasuSaku has a far more chances of being remembered since both characters in it were main characters. That does not change the fact that the negetivity it gets for abuse. To be honest I wanted SasuSaku to be in this movie along with NaruHina so it's able to justify its ship. At the moment SasuSaku is left with negetive moments in the manga. How can you be happy with that even as a fan?

There is nothing deep to Hinata.Its a trope thats been done to death before in shonens albeit in a much more convincing manner than in Naruto also known as Yamato Nadeshiko

Both NaruHina and SasuSaku are extremely wrong if we compare it to real life.In SasuSaku Kishi is basically teaching girls that no matter how much a guy treats you like shit,dont grow a spine and find someone to put him in his place all the while when he abuses you and then jump on his D and get impregnated when he does a forehead flick and a sorry because as per Kishi logic "Switching from Sasuke makes Sakura a terrible woman"

In NaruHina even if a guy ignores a girl's love confession for 2 years straight,you need to persist for unnatural periods of time till you get his D.In real life your best bet is 8 months to a year before the girl moves on

I actually agree, it would have been fine if he spent just a few more chapters exploring Sasuke's redemption and his interaction with team 7 and Sakura in specific. But that was skipped and this is what we are left with, at this point its all up to interpretation, but IMO if we look at Sasuke's change towards the end, that promotes a positive rather than negative.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Great point.
I see no relevance to me, though, cause it DOESN'T mean "accept everyone's bullshit".

I never said you should lol. Its just you should not get too emotional about it. In the end you won't really change anyone's opinion here. You can only help them understand where you are coming from. From the way I see it you try too hard to change a person's view, and call them names because they disagree with you. You think doing that will change anything? I don't think so. It will only end up making you look like a clown who can't get his point a crossed without insulting others. And if that's how you want to be I am not stopping you. Because I am always here for a laugh. Maybe you will give me a great performance in that.

 

[Beatrix]

Am I the only one who wishes that Sakura had fallen for Naruto?

I don't dislike Naruhina - I like it, works well (in my opinion). But I really can't stand a lot about Sakura's character and I kind of hoped she would, I dunno... "redeem" herself, by falling in love (romantically) with Naruto.
I suppose it would have been symbolic of her growing up, shedding off the fangirl and (like Kushina) coming to recognise the worth of the yellow-haired boy who has adored you since he was a kid.

Thinking of how she was in canon, when she lied to Naruto about her feelings, rejected the confession of another nin, reacted towards Sasuke etc...
Would Sakura have survived Sasuke marrying someone else? Would she have moved on? Been happy for him?
No. Well, she would have lived - but I think she'd end up like Tsunade.
No. She'd reject all other confessions and remain steadfast to her true love.
No. She's inherently selfish, always placing what she wants/needs from Sasuke before what he wants/needs.

She's a miserable character when it comes to romance - it's all or nothing, like a stubborn child who is determined to have "that one".

Gah! I can't - even looking back over the manga - see any signs of love, regard or feelings of more than possible team mates/friends from Sasuke.
When did he fall for her?
Why did he fall for her?

So frustrating. Still, this steaming pile of sh*t Kishi calls romance has nothing on FFVII's Aerith/Cloud/Tifa love triangle... almost makes me glad he made the pairings canon, because that sh*t has been argued (to death) since 1997.
But still... they wrote romance well in the FF franchise.

Oh, and just so you know; TEAM CLOTI

 

[Koshej]

I wonder what is the average AGE in this forum...

 

[Torche]

ignore me i m just here to spam

Official spam thread #69. :snick:

 

[Beatrix]

I wonder what is the average AGE in this forum...

Do a poll.

 

[BLAZE]

Official spam thread #69. :snick:

I see wut u did there :snick:

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

I wonder what is the average AGE in this forum...

Its older than 5. But for you its a exception. Since you are younger than that. Lol

 

[Torche]

I see wut u did there :snick:

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[Endles Waltz]

Am I the only one who wishes that Sakura had fallen for Naruto?

I don't dislike Naruhina - I like it, works well (in my opinion). But I really can't stand a lot about Sakura's character and I kind of hoped she would, I dunno... "redeem" herself, by falling in love (romantically) with Naruto.
I suppose it would have been symbolic of her growing up, shedding off the fangirl and (like Kushina) coming to recognise the worth of the yellow-haired boy who has adored you since he was a kid.

Thinking of how she was in canon, when she lied to Naruto about her feelings, rejected the confession of another nin, reacted towards Sasuke etc...
Would Sakura have survived Sasuke marrying someone else? Would she have moved on? Been happy for him?
No. Well, she would have lived - but I think she'd end up like Tsunade.
No. She'd reject all other confessions and remain steadfast to her true love.
No. She's inherently selfish, always placing what she wants/needs from Sasuke before what he wants/needs.

She's a miserable character when it comes to romance - it's all or nothing, like a stubborn child who is determined to have "that one".

Gah! I can't - even looking back over the manga - see any signs of love, regard or feelings of more than possible team mates/friends from Sasuke.
When did he fall for her?
Why did he fall for her?

So frustrating. Still, this steaming pile of sh*t Kishi calls romance has nothing on FFVII's Aerith/Cloud/Tifa love triangle... almost makes me glad he made the pairings canon, because that sh*t has been argued (to death) since 1997.
But still... they wrote romance well in the FF franchise.

Oh, and just so you know; TEAM CLOTI

lol you know Sakura more than Kishi himself it seems.

You make valid points but with what we got its up to your interpretation to fill in the gaps.

@Bold: Well maybe after he realized that this girl dedicated her life for him even though he treated her badly and withstood his worst and STILL wants to be with him after everything. I don't think you should be worried why Sasuke picked Sakura because he has enough reasons. What lacks explanation and seems to be the source of people's frustration and especially a certain someone in this thread is why Sakura chose Sasuke.

ANYWAYS, this is all done on a whim by Kishi and is mostly fanservice, people over think pairings in this series big time.