What is uncool or lame about kindness or being civilized? Why like rudeness?

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A lot of people have stated that they like characters like Sasuke because of their rudeness to other people and their arrogance. They find it cool for some reason. Then they seem to find characters who treat others with respect while still using the same degree (or higher) of intellect and logic as lame or annoying.

Why? Look at the following 2 scenarios. One is canon to the manga (except for some slight modifications) and one is an alternate scenario that I am making up.

Scenario 1:

Sakura: What is going on out there Sasuke-kun?

Sasuke: Shut up stupid fodder! What would you do if I told you? You're useless. There's nothing you can do. (Later after giving a similar speech to Kakashi) Anyway, the infinite tsukuyomi got casted.

Scene end


Scenario 2:

Sakura: What is going on out there?

Decent person: The infinite tsukuyomi got casted.

scene end


Now tell me lovers of rudeness, what about scenario 1 makes Sasuke so cool to you? What is wrong with scenario 2? Scenario 2 saved time anyway and accomplished the same goal of telling the situation as scenario 1 did. That is more efficient and a lot of you arrogance lovers claim to like those who are more "realistic and rational".

Even for those of you who say that Sasuke was just telling them what was best for them, there is a much better way to do that.

Modification of scene 2:

Sakura: What is going on out there?

Decent person: The infinite tsukuyomi got casted, but listen. I don't want you and Kakashi to get involved in this battle. The enemy's strength is much too great.

Scene end

What would be wrong with this? Is this too lame for you? It serves the same purpose and conveys the same message in a more polite tone. No it is not even sugarcoated. It has no coating at all.

Why do you find the intentional unkindness to be so appealing? Why do you hate kindness or find it annoying (ie. Naruto)? The kindness can have the same rationality and efficiency as the unkindness.

Would you hate Sasuke if he still had all of his current power, intelligence, rationality and ideals, but if he treated others with respect?
 

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Oh my goodness, will you ever make a thread that is not complaining about other people's perspectives? Geez man.
 

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What if every character acted exactly the same? What If there were no personalities at all? Wouldn't be a very good manga then would it?
 

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Because nerds get angry at happy go lucky characters, it's called jelousy. Emo rebellious clowns like Sasuke mirrors the image of their own selves so they have no choice but to like him, because else it would mean they would not like themselves.
 
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I like it when characters are consistent in their personalities, and when there are many different ones. And, well, we all have different types that appeal to them; I for example like loyal, no-nonsense characters but I don't mind it when they have an arrogant streak as well - it's more fun this way.

Again, characters aren't real people, and shouldn't be viewed as such. That's why we have fiction - we can enjoy watching characters do things that you'd hate seeing real people do.
 

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Because nerds get angry at happy go lucky characters, it's called jelousy. Emo rebellius clowns like Sasuke mirrors the image of their own selves so they have no choice but to like him, because else it would mean they would not like themselves.



What deos emo mean?
 

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What if every character acted exactly the same? What If there were no personalities at all? Wouldn't be a very good manga then would it?

I never said he had to act the same as everyone else. You can still be different from someone without being a jerk. For example, Rock Lee, Shikamaru and Kakashi all have very different personalities ,but all of them still treat others with respect.
 

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maybe, being teenagers going through the rebelious phase, they are naturally attracted to such people, or they wish they could be as rude to others in real life as they can never do it themselves without getting beaten up

who knows
 

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maybe, being teenagers going through the rebelious phase, they are naturally attracted to such people, or they wish they could be as rude to others in real life as they can never do it themselves without getting beaten up

who knows

These people are a shame to teenagers then if this is the case.
 

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We like Sasuke's emo/scene rebellious attitude and style.
 

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I kind of get where you're coming from.

Now I think it's fine to like whoever you want for whatever reason you want, but I'll admit I've been bewildered at times by people claiming to dislike Naruto's "shitty" character basically because he's a good guy. They say he's too "unrealistic", which makes me wonder when did and why is it so unrealistic to have goals, care about other people, strive for peace in your life and believe in yourself? I know that not everyone is like this, but is it really that foreign of a concept?

Idk, I try not to judge people's personal characters based off their fav character in the series though. I just tell myself that people just like certain things when they read stories and leave it at that
 

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Well I'm not sure if I'm the only one that thinks this, but I was thinking that Sasuke said those things because he didn't want them to rush into fighting an impossible fight (like Sakura did earlier). Sasuke calling Sakura and Kakashi useless, I think is not because he was being mean, but because he doesn't want them to see his friends die in a fight they couldn't possibly win.
 

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I agree completelly. I don't like as*hole characters. And I'll don't understand why people do either.
 

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Yup it always bothers me to see people calling Danzo/Orochimaru/Madara/Obito/Kabuto and etc all great characters.. while on the other hand Naruto and Hashirama and others who have their personality are called shitty characters. However, when we look at the content of the characters those 2 are superior characters to the above mentioned villains.


Reason being is jealousy, people usually get jealous of someone who is liked and powerful and so on. Its simply how some people work.

But apparently being "rude" and "mad" and "killing people" all the time is what makes a "realistic character". My only question is which reality are these people living in?
 

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Well I'm not sure if I'm the only one that thinks this, but I was thinking that Sasuke said those things because he didn't want them to rush into fighting an impossible fight (like Sakura did earlier). Sasuke calling Sakura and Kakashi useless, I think is not because he was being mean, but because he doesn't want them to see his friends die in a fight they couldn't possibly win.

If that was the case he could simply say, "The genjutsu was casted, but I don't want you to participate in this fight for your own safety".

Instead of basically saying, "You're a stupid fodder, so shut up".

Do you see what I mean? That is why I doubt that this was Sasuke trying to "protect his friends".
 

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they think being a butt cheek is kewl

most of these basement dwellers wish they were sasuke in rl Lol
 
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