What is the difference between firing a homosexual and firing someone for free speech

slimreaper

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I believe that a private business has the right to fire someone based on sexual orientation if it goes against the view of their company.

we have the right to free speech, but we don't have the right to protection from concequences in the private sector as the many examples of firings and things of that nature over words said.

I beileve the same applies to homosexuals. They now have a legal right to be married, but if doing so required the company to change their files then they should be able to fire those people on the basis of doing something the company doesn't agree with.


Disagree? Make free speech protected in the private sector
 

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Maybe we should fire you because you are white lmfao

It is utterly retarded. You are getting fired for something that has nothing to do with the job and it is none of the job's business who you are attracted to anyways.
 

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Maybe we should fire you because you are white lmfao

It is utterly retarded. You are getting fired for something that has nothing to do with the job and it is none of the job's business who you are attracted to anyways.

It's none of the jobs business what you say outside work, yet people still get fired/expelled for it.

Look at the kids chanting racist things on the bus. Were they wrong? yes. Did they deserve expulsion? no

If a company set up before hand that being gay would get you fired, they should be allowed to do so
 

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Why would anyone fire someone because of race, gender, sexual orientation, or religion, when anyone can fire anyone for literally any other reason they want?

It's like those bakeries a while back that refused gay couples their business. They were retarded because they refused the business based on sexual orientation, when they could have refused the business because they didn't feel like it, or they were busy, or because it was the second saturday after the fifth solstice of the century, or whatever BS they wanted to make up, and they would have been covered legally.

That's like saying murder with a crossbow is illegal, but murder with any other weapon is legal, so why would anyone try to use a crossbow?
 

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No...........your sexual interest has nothing to do with most of the jobs around U.S, it's rather irrelevant. Them being gay wouldn't normally do anything harmful to the company as a whole, nor is it going to stop the process of anything in most jobs.
 

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It's none of the jobs business what you say outside work, yet people still get fired/expelled for it.

Look at the kids chanting racist things on the bus. Were they wrong? yes. Did they deserve expulsion? no

If a company set up before hand that being gay would get you fired, they should be allowed to do so

Yes they should be able to fire them because it's their rights although I don't think it is necessary to fire some based on which gender they prefer thats just ridiculous.
 

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Why would anyone fire someone because of race, gender, sexual orientation, or religion, when anyone can fire anyone for literally any other reason they want?

It's like those bakeries a while back that refused gay couples their business. They were retarded because they refused the business based on sexual orientation, when they could have refused the business because they didn't feel like it, or they were busy, or because it was the second saturday after the fifth solstice of the century, or whatever BS they wanted to make up, and they would have been covered legally.

That's like saying murder with a crossbow is illegal, but murder with any other weapon is legal, so why would anyone try to use a crossbow?
While I agree, ever since the introduction of affirmative action, people claim racism and the like if you fire them for even being bad at their jobs anymore. So people are too scared to make those kinda boss moves
No...........your sexual interest has nothing to do with most of the jobs around U.S, it's rather irrelevant.
What you say outside of work is also irrelivant. The argument that you represent the company comes into play here
 

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It's none of the jobs business what you say outside work, yet people still get fired/expelled for it.

Look at the kids chanting racist things on the bus. Were they wrong? yes. Did they deserve expulsion? no

If a company set up before hand that being gay would get you fired, they should be allowed to do so
This is exactly why I can't take you serious

You are comparing sexual orientation which you live with to indecent behavior. Those people deserved what they got. Hate speech shouldn't be tolerated nor should it taken serious. Racism is not funny. It truly isn't and those people are straight up ignorant. I wouldn't want them working in my business.

If people are getting fired based off their sexual oreintation they should get fired based off of ***, race and religion.

I am not going to argue with you about something so obviously wrong and hateful
 
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This is exactly why I can't take you serious

You are comparing sexual orientation which you live with to indecent behavior. Those people deserved what they got. Hate speech shouldn't be tolerated nor should it taken serious. Racism is not funny. It truly isn't and those people are straight up ignorant. I wouldn't want them working in my business.

If people are getting fired based off their sexyal oreintation they should get fired based off if ***, race and religion.

I am not going to argue with you about something so obviously wrong and hateful

This isn't "1984" There is no such thing as hate speech firstly.

second, While I agree it's wrong to hate and fire people for being gay/etc... it should still be up to the person who runs the business. Just because you deem it wrong doesn't mean they don't have the right to control the image of their business.


Third ignorant means lacking knowledge. They may be racist, but enlighten me of what they are ignorant of
 
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ex. dumb shit like this

 

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I do find it pathetic that if you refuse service to these "nice people" they will sue you destroy your business and ruin you financially

I'm black if I went to some place and they didn't want me there I might yell throw a chair and then leave never come back but I'm not going to be a total jackazz and

Sue them for all their money unless they physically assaulted me
 

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If a person goes against what the business is trying to represent then of course they should be fired. No amount of propaganda can change that, it's simply business. For example, no pickup company would employ gay people for it goes against what they're trying to achieve and have all rights to fire that person. You may have right to make your choices but it doesn't exempt you from consequences in the real world.
 
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You do realize that a company who fires a person because of its sexual orientation could cause them more harm, especially if this person contributes to the success and prosperity of your company. It's also none of your concern to know if you're employee is Gay or not unless they are open about it. Running a Business is about progressing and being professional. As long as this person is ethical then you shouldn't fire him/her.
 

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You do realize that a company who fires a person because of its sexual orientation could cause them more harm, especially if this person contributes to the success and prosperity of your company. It's also none of your concern to know if you're employee is Gay or not unless they are open about it. Running a Business is about progressing and being professional. As long as this person is ethical then you shouldn't fire him/her.
And what if several of your clients who are rich ore wealthy donators stop coming to your business because of that sorry but if I have to fire someone to save a business so be it
Not going to do some bs of morality lose my business so someone else can feel respected
 

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Maybe we should fire you because you are white lmfao

It is utterly retarded. You are getting fired for something that has nothing to do with the job and it is none of the job's business who you are attracted to anyways.

whites are the superior race of humans, why would you fire them? to hire blacks? :lmao:
 

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You do realize that a company who fires a person because of its sexual orientation could cause them more harm, especially if this person contributes to the success and prosperity of your company. It's also none of your concern to know if you're employee is Gay or not unless they are open about it. Running a Business is about progressing and being professional. As long as this person is ethical then you shouldn't fire him/her.
So basically, you should abandon your long term vision for the company just so you don't offend one gay person. That way of thinking will stop you from making any progress in life, can't get ahead without hurting some feelings.
 
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it also depends on the employer. keep in mind that even racism is still very much alive in this world. Not many are ready to accept and i get it. However if reactions have shed light, then surely karma will step in. equality does matter. Put yourself in their shoes. Who knows it could be you.

at the end of the day businesses wont care unless dollar$$ and cent$$...make $en$e?? who cares about preference.

if my boss really cared about sexuality, I would think twice about working in that kind of environment.
 
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