What if Minato was alive today.

[EL MAGNIFICO]

I agree that naruto wudnt b as op as he is now ..... But Minato wud ve become very strong .... We cant compare hime to other hokages like 1st and 2nd , also prime hiruzen cuz we dont know much abt them
also he wud ve mastered sage mode and rasengan ....
he cud ve stopped the uchiha clan massacre ...idk how, but his presence wud ve affected the decision of elders..
tsunade wud b still unknown ...

 

[Blaze Release]

We're not really sure how old Minato was upon death, just that it was quite a few years younger than the current 30 year old Kakashi, according to one of the fire daimyo's assitants. Something like 23 sounds about right. Hiruzen appeared to have been in his teens when Tobirama promoted him on the battlefield and if I remember correctly, he was 23-24 at the Bell Test for the Sannin.

@Blaze Release

I think it's a bit cheap to put Edo Madara there, and IMO, Tobi hasn't really done much on his own that was impressive. Mostly just summoning a massive entity to fight for you. xd

Actually ive calculated how minato was around his death and i believe he was in his late 20's.

Firstly ever genin under the influence of a jonin has a minimum of 12 years above them.

Team kakash for example. He was 26-27. Sasuke, naruto and sakura were 13. There is a 13 year gap.

Team asuma for example. He was 26-27. Shika, ino and choji were 13.
Again there is a 13 year gap

Team kurenai. She was 27-28. Hinata, shino and kiba were around 13.
Again there is a 13 year gap

Team gai. He was 26-27. Lee, neji and tenten were 14 (A year above)
There is again around a 13 year gap.

I hope you can see the pattern. You cannot really gage how old an ainme character is going by their looks because thats very deceiving. During the 3rd great war, he was the sensei of team kakashi and at that time kakashi was 13 when he got promoted to jonin. I bleieve the pattern is constant, throughout, no different to how there is always 2 boys and 1 girl in a team xd. I believe minato like the other jonins ive mentioned above had a minimum of 10-12 gap over his student.

Anyway we later say kakashi and gai who was around 17-18 when the fox attacked. If minato was to have a 10-12 year gap on kakashi when he was 13, minato during the war was around 24-25. If add that during the fox attacked kakashi was around 17-18, you can further deduct that minato died around (17-13= 4) 24/5 + 4 = 28/9.

Its not cheap to put him there xd, besides he is kabuto's weapon therefore its kabuto who is there. Tobi might not have shown us much, but he going up against 4 extremely powerful ninja's and still hasnt shown us his true power

 

[kiiroi senk0u]

How strong do you think Minato would be right now if he was alive? He was pretty young when he died, Minato could have still advanced further beyond where he was when he died. Anyone venture to say he would have been the strongest hokage in history, if he lived long like Hiruzen?

Btw, if anyone says he's already the strongest Hokage, I'll have to laugh at you. :scorps:

Bonus - How do you think Naruto would have been like as a child and even right now, if his parents survived the kyuubi attack?

i don't care if you laugh but i'm sure you'll be surprised to see how strong he actually was
he made very little feet in the series and if you think he is only as strong as much we know then i disagree with you he became hokage at very little age not to mention he was a prodigie for sure all the other characters who made feet in naruto have a big list of jutsu's especially kages
also i want to assume this he would learn sage mode cuz he was favorite student of ziraiya and had contact with toads
about naruto's growth i'm sure he will learn ftg , also being an uzumaki he should have huge chakra which makes him stronger than minato

He died in his late 20's, around 28-29. Anyway obviously he wouldve been stronger, but he still wouldnt make the top5, which contains the cream of the crop; edo madara (kabuto), tobi, nagato, hashirama and bm naruto.

If naruto's parents survived the fox's attack, naruto wouldnt be as op has he is today. A chain of events which was triggered that night is what has lead to current naruto. We cannot fully see how strong naruto would be, but obviously he wouldnt be this op

omg killed by ur own talk u mentioned bm naruto in top 5 and u think naruto won't be that powerfull at the same time ...:sy:

are u stupid :shrug:

Nobody knows what hiruzens prime exactly is therefore you cannot say this. Naruto is already a prodigy imo, although a different kind than the normal geniuses we are used to.

yes and nobody knows minato's prime too so stfu

 

[Viewtiful]

Actually ive calculated how minato was around his death and i believe he was in his late 20's.

Firstly ever genin under the influence of a jonin has a minimum of 12 years aboe them.

Team kakash for example. He was 26-27. Sasuke, naruto and sakura were 13. There is a 13 year gap.

Team asuma for example. He was 26-27. Shika, ino and choji were 13.
Again there is a 13 year gap

Team kurenai. She was 27-28. Hinata, shino and kiba were around 13.
Again there is a 13 year gap

Team gai. He was 26-27. Lee, neji and tenten were 14 (A year above)
There is again around a 13 year gap.

I hope you can see the pattern. You cannot really gage how old an ainme character is going by their looks because thats very deceiving. During the 3rd great war, he was the sensei of team kakashi and at that time kakashi was 13 when he got promoted to jonin. I bleieve the pattern is constant, throughout, no different to how there is always 2 boys and 1 girl in a team xd. I believe minato like the other jonins ive mentioned above had a minimum of 10-12 gap over his student.

Anyway we later say kakashi and gai who looked 17-18 when the fox attacked. If minato was to have a 10-12 year gap on kakashi when he was 13, minato during the war was around 24-25. If add that during the fox attacked kakashi looked 17-18, you can further deduct that minato died around (17-13= 4) 24/5 + 4 = 28/9.

Its not cheap to put him there xd, besides he is kabuto's weapon therefore its kabuto who is there. Tobi might not have shown us much, but he going up against 4 extremely powerful ninja's and still hasnt shown us his true power

Hiruzen was drawn rather youthful looking, younger than he was drawn during the Sannin Bell Test. We can get Hiruzen's approx. Age from that test from the Sannin's age's, and from the databook listing all 3 as having graduated the Academy at the young age of 6. So, Jiraiya was 54 when he died according to the 3rd DB, so the Sannin's Bell Test was 48 years ago, meaning Hiruzen 21-22 at the time, and that was several years after Tobirama's death. So yes, Hiruzen was indeed a Hokage as a tennager. xd

The thing above that age gap is that everyone youposted was from the same generation an Academy line-up, so that may not hold true for every genin team.

Not cheap? xd He has immortality, can't be damaged and has Wood Rlease, none of which he had in life.
And Tobi said that he has no power himself, that's why he's trying to become the Jubi's Jinchuriki and why he stole Nagato's Rinnegan.

 

[Blaze Release]

omg killed by ur own talk u mentioned bm naruto in top 5 and u think naruto won't be that powerfull at the same time ...:sy:

are u stupid :shrug:

yes and nobody knows minato's prime too so stfu

Dafuq?. Who is this troll above me. Wouldnt be surprised if its another alt. Getting attacked left, right and centre by fanboys who joined in april and may . Also seem to know me quiet well. At least do the right thing and show youself. Why hide behind an alt :shrug:

Hiruzen was drawn rather youthful looking, younger than he was drawn during the Sannin Bell Test. We can get Hiruzen's approx. Age from that test from the Sannin's age's, and from the databook listing all 3 as having graduated the Academy at the young age of 6. So, Jiraiya was 54 when he died according to the 3rd DB, so the Sannin's Bell Test was 48 years ago, meaning Hiruzen 21-22 at the time, and that was several years after Tobirama's death. So yes, Hiruzen was indeed a Hokage as a tennager. xd

The thing above that age gap is that everyone youposted was from the same generation an Academy line-up, so that may not hold true for every genin team.

Not cheap? xd He has immortality, can't be damaged and has Wood Rlease, none of which he had in life.
And Tobi said that he has no power himself, that's why he's trying to become the Jubi's Jinchuriki and why he stole Nagato's Rinnegan.

Hiruzen was around 17-18 when tobirama told him that he was the 3rd hokage. Just because all 3 graduated at 6 hardly means anything. You really do not believe that the bell best between huruzen and the sannins were around 6 years old, thats too young. They were around/looked around the same ages as any of the other genins ive named. Dont for a second believe they were 6 during the bell test.

During Hiruzen's time with the sannins we saw that he had a goatie, and no different to asuma and in part asuma had a 13 year gap.

Now jiraiya deid at 54. Sarutobi died at 69. 69-54= 15 years. Thast the gap between them. As i said there has always been a consistency between the sexes (2 boys 1 girl), number (3 genins and 1 jonin) and a teachers age (10-13 above genin).

Anyway you cannot argue with me about cheap. Thats between you and kishi. He created madara xd

 

[naruttebayo]

Actually ive calculated how minato was around his death and i believe he was in his late 20's.

Firstly ever genin under the influence of a jonin has a minimum of 12 years above them.

Team kakash for example. He was 26-27. Sasuke, naruto and sakura were 13. There is a 13 year gap.

Team asuma for example. He was 26-27. Shika, ino and choji were 13.
Again there is a 13 year gap

Team kurenai. She was 27-28. Hinata, shino and kiba were around 13.
Again there is a 13 year gap

Team gai. He was 26-27. Lee, neji and tenten were 14 (A year above)
There is again around a 13 year gap.

I hope you can see the pattern. You cannot really gage how old an ainme character is going by their looks because thats very deceiving. During the 3rd great war, he was the sensei of team kakashi and at that time kakashi was 13 when he got promoted to jonin. I bleieve the pattern is constant, throughout, no different to how there is always 2 boys and 1 girl in a team xd. I believe minato like the other jonins ive mentioned above had a minimum of 10-12 gap over his student.

Anyway we later say kakashi and gai who was around 17-18 when the fox attacked. If minato was to have a 10-12 year gap on kakashi when he was 13, minato during the war was around 24-25. If add that during the fox attacked kakashi was around 17-18, you can further deduct that minato died around (17-13= 4) 24/5 + 4 = 28/9.

Its not cheap to put him there xd, besides he is kabuto's weapon therefore its kabuto who is there. Tobi might not have shown us much, but he going up against 4 extremely powerful ninja's and still hasnt shown us his true power

read this
it was boring and dosen't make sense

 

[2pops]

hed probably have rasenshuriken and a better teleportation

 

[Blaze Release]

read this
it was boring and dosen't make sense

Boring? well it wasnt supposed to be entertaining and tbh ive tried to make it as simple as possible, if it doesnt make sense to you then, i dont know what to say

 

[Bogard]

Just to give some details about what you're saying.

Team asuma for example. He was 26-27. Shika, ino and choji were 13.
Again there is a 13 year gap

Databook says that Asuma was one year older than Kakashi. So he was 27-28 at that time. The same goes with Kurenai.

Anyway we later say kakashi and gai who was around 17-18 when the fox attacked. If minato was to have a 10-12 year gap on kakashi when he was 13, minato during the war was around 24-25. If add that during the fox attacked kakashi was around 17-18, you can further deduct that minato died around (17-13= 4) 24/5 + 4 = 28/9.

From the begin of Shippuden, the Kyubi attack happened 16years ago cuz Naruto is 16now and he was born at that time. Begin of Shippuden, Kakashi was 29-30. That means he was 13-14 at that time(30-16=14 or 29-16=13). But he was already 13 in Kakashi gaiden, and Minato wasn't hokage at that time. If Kakashi had 14 at that time like it shows, that means Minato became Hokage a year after the war(maybe cuz they have seen his power).

 

[Viewtiful]

Hiruzen was around 17-18 when tobirama told him that he was the 3rd hokage. Just because all 3 graduated at 6 hardly means anything. You really do not believe that the bell best between huruzen and the sannins were around 6 years old, thats too young. They were around/looked around the same ages as any of the other genins ive named. Dont for a second believe they were 6 during the bell test.

During Hiruzen's time with the sannins we saw that he had a goatie, and no different to asuma and in part asuma had a 13 year gap.

Now jiraiya deid at 54. Sarutobi died at 69. 69-54= 15 years. Thast the gap between them. As i said there has always been a consistency between the sexes (2 boys 1 girl), number (3 genins and 1 jonin) and a teachers age (10-13 above genin).

Anyway you cannot argue with me about cheap. Thats between you and kishi. He created madara xd

You actually contraeicted yourself a bit and showed that Hiruzen was indeed 21 at the Bell Test. xd There's a 15 year gap between the Sannin and Hiruzen, which comes to the same age as my math did.
Anyway, Academy graduates take the Bell Test right after they...graduate the Academy. Yes it's ridiculous that the Sannin all graduated at 6, but in the scope of this series and what they ended up becoming, it's not too surprising. Heck, Itachi graduated at age 7, became a Chunin at 10 and became an ANBU captain at 13.

About the age gap, could be about right. I personally think Minato was close to 25 than 30, but hey, we haz no maths 4 dis. x)

Me: 'Hey Kishi, is Edo Madara cheap?'

Kishimoto: 'Duh.'


Satisfied?


Now I need sleep dammit. xd

 

[Rapid]

Actually ive calculated how minato was around his death and i believe he was in his late 20's.

Firstly ever genin under the influence of a jonin has a minimum of 12 years above them.

Team kakash for example. He was 26-27. Sasuke, naruto and sakura were 13. There is a 13 year gap.

Team asuma for example. He was 26-27. Shika, ino and choji were 13.
Again there is a 13 year gap

Team kurenai. She was 27-28. Hinata, shino and kiba were around 13.
Again there is a 13 year gap

Team gai. He was 26-27. Lee, neji and tenten were 14 (A year above)
There is again around a 13 year gap.

I hope you can see the pattern. You cannot really gage how old an ainme character is going by their looks because thats very deceiving. During the 3rd great war, he was the sensei of team kakashi and at that time kakashi was 13 when he got promoted to jonin. I bleieve the pattern is constant, throughout, no different to how there is always 2 boys and 1 girl in a team xd. I believe minato like the other jonins ive mentioned above had a minimum of 10-12 gap over his student.

Anyway we later say kakashi and gai who was around 17-18 when the fox attacked. If minato was to have a 10-12 year gap on kakashi when he was 13, minato during the war was around 24-25. If add that during the fox attacked kakashi was around 17-18, you can further deduct that minato died around (17-13= 4) 24/5 + 4 = 28/9.

Its not cheap to put him there xd, besides he is kabuto's weapon therefore its kabuto who is there. Tobi might not have shown us much, but he going up against 4 extremely powerful ninja's and still hasnt shown us his true power

Kakashi is 30 now the kyuubi attack happen 16 years ago so he was 14 @ the time

 

[Blaze Release]

Just to give some details about what you're saying.

Databook says that Asuma was one year older than Kakashi. So he was 27-28 at that time. The same goes with Kurenai.

From the begin of Shippuden, the Kyubi attack happened 16years ago cuz Naruto is 16now and he was born at that time. Begin of Shippuden, Kakashi was 29-30. That means he was 13-14 at that time(30-16=14 or 29-16=13). But he was already 13 in Kakashi gaiden, and Minato wasn't hokage at that time. If Kakashi had 14 at that time like it shows, that means Minato became Hokage a year after the war(maybe cuz they have seen his power).

Double checked and you are right,asuma and in deed kurenai were 1-2 years older than kakashi. Youve further increased the age to 1-2 years. Actually in part 1 kakashi was 26-7. Then there was a 3 year break for naruto shippuden and kakashi was 30.

Now at what year was kakashi's age in part2 given because he has obviously gotten older. If kish has used a 3 year break to increase their age, shippuden has been running for about another 3 yeard therefore im certain kishi will take this into consideration again and increase their age. Basically i believe kakashi currently is 32/33 What im saying is that kakashi is older than what the databook says now. Maybe if it gets updated, the age might aswell :shrug:.

Im not sure what age minato become hokage, but since i believe he was around 24/5 during the war he would likely become hokage a year later :shrug:

You actually contraeicted yourself a bit and showed that Hiruzen was indeed 21 at the Bell Test. xd There's a 15 year gap between the Sannin and Hiruzen, which comes to the same age as my math did.
Anyway, Academy graduates take the Bell Test right after they...graduate the Academy. Yes it's ridiculous that the Sannin all graduated at 6, but in the scope of this series and what they ended up becoming, it's not too surprising. Heck, Itachi graduated at age 7, became a Chunin at 10 and became an ANBU captain at 13.

About the age gap, could be about right. I personally think Minato was close to 25 than 30, but hey, we haz no maths 4 dis. x)

Me: 'Hey Kishi, is Edo Madara cheap?'

Kishimoto: 'Duh.'


Satisfied?

Dont believe ive contracted byself, because we dont know what age the sannins took the bell test even if they graduated at 6, but who knows. Nobody truly knows minato age when he died but i believe he died around 28/9

 

[kiiroi senk0u]

Well obviously he would be strong, but part of the reason Naruto got strong was the solitude. I just wonder how it would be different when it comes to gaining power.

i don't agree
guardian's love can make u even strongr

Dafuq?. Who is this troll above me. Wouldnt be surprised if its another alt. Getting attacked left, right and centre by fanboys who joined in april and may . Also seem to know me quiet well. At least do the right thing and show youself. Why hide behind an alt :shrug:

what do you mean by that ??

you are angry , that mean ur post was flawed

 

[Blaze Release]

Kakashi is 30 now the kyuubi attack happen 16 years ago so he was 14 @ the time

Read my previous post to bogard. Kakashi isnt still 30. Might say that in the databook, but that is old dated, by quiet a bit actually

i don't agree
guardian's love can make u even strongr



what do you mean by that ??

you are angry , that mean ur post was flawed

Not angry :shrug:

 

[Baka Sennin]

well, Minato would have become the strongest hokage in no time, it was only a matter of time before he learned to pair rasengan with his element, and then he would eliminate pretty much his only drawback and jump into the top 5.

as to Naruto, he wouldn't be as powerful without the kyuubi, but he would be a much better ninja.
a. the kyuubi wouldn't mess up his chakra control, meaning he would progress much faster. he learned kage bunshin,multi kage bunshin, and rasengan at age 12, imagine if he had better chakra control.
b. with Minato to teach him, he would have learnt fuinjutsu, and possibly training to improve his speed rapidly like sasuke did when kakashi trained him. not to mention, much better shinobi sense and knowledge.
c. he would have learnt the wind element much faster, as well as his second element. which means, combination attacks with clones.
d. then, he would perfect sage mode without the kyuubi interfering, meaning he can merge with ma and pa and would be pulled out of sm after 5m/2 rasenshuriken.

in short, Naruto would be a stronger and more enduring, less smart version of Minato with a few improvements/innovations of his own. He would still have a big drive to succeed, to surpass Sasuke his rival, and his father, the strongest person in the village. and with Sasuke's abandoning the village, he would still improve very fast.

as to Orochimaru, he wouldn't dare attack Konoha, not with two kage stronger than him there. even Pain might have second thoughts

 

[Bogard]

Double checked and you are right,asuma and in deed kurenai were 1-2 years older than kakashi. Youve further increased the age to 1-2 years. Actually in part 1 kakashi was 26-7. Then there was a 3 year break for naruto shippuden and kakashi was 30.

Now at what year was kakashi's age in part2 given because he has obviously gotten older. If kish has used a 3 year break to increase their age, shippuden has been running for about another 3 yeard therefore im certain kishi will take this into consideration again and increase their age. Basically i believe kakashi currently is 32/33 What im saying is that kakashi is older than what the databook says now. Maybe if it gets updated, the age might aswell :shrug:.

Im not sure what age minato become hokage, but since i believe he was around 24/5 during the war he would likely become hokage a year later :shrug:

What you're not taking in consideration is that if Kakashis year has increased during Shippuden(3years maybe) the same goes to Naruto. That means that Naruto who had 16 at the begin of Shippuden, has 19 now if we say 3years past since then. But that means the same. Naruto was born during the Kyubis attack. That means if we considerate Kakashi is 30+3=33 now. That means he was still 14(33-19=14).
And it's even logic. Just see: Kakashi was 26-27 in part1 when Naruto was 12-13. He was born during kyubis attack. That means Kakashi was 26-12 or 27-13=14.

But i don't believe 3years has past since begin Shippuden. If we analyse carefully the situation, maximum one year has past since begin of Shippuden. Time only past off panel xd

 

[Blaze Release]

What you're not taking in consideration is that if Kakashis year has increased during Shippuden(3years maybe) the same goes to Naruto. That means that Naruto who had 16 at the begin of Shippuden, has 19 now if we say 3years past since then. But that means the same. Naruto was born during the Kyubis attack. That means if we considerate Kakashi is 30+3=33 now. That means he was still 14(33-19=14).

But i don't believe 3years has past since. If we analyse carefully the situation, maximum one year has past since begin of Shippuden.

Ow shit i contradicted my self when i already stated that jonins have around a 13/14 year age gap between them and even used kakashi, gai and kurenai and asuma as example.

In part 1, kakashi was 26/27. Naruto, sasuke and sakura were 13/14, therefore the 13 year gap is there. We saw that naruto was born before the fox attacked and sasuke was like a couple of months old. Basically both were 0. Meaning kakashi was 13 when the fox attacked but that doesnt make sense, because that was the time during the 3rd ninja war, minato wasnt hokage then. Also we can clearly see a more mature kakashi when the fox attacked than the one in kakashi gaiden.

Okay now youve confused me

 

[Bogard]

Ow shit i contradicted my self when i already stated that jonins have around a 13/14 year age gap between them and even used kakashi, gai and kurenai and asuma as example.

In part 1, kakashi was 26/27. Naruto, sasuke and sakura were 13/14, therefore the 13 year gap is there. We saw that naruto was born before the fox attacked and sasuke was like a couple of months old. Basically both were 0. Meaning kakashi was 13 when the fox attacked but that doesnt make sense, because that was the time during the 3rd ninja war, minato wasnt hokage then. Also we can clearly see a more mature kakashi when the fox attacked than the one in kakashi gaiden.

Okay now youve confused me

Lol. xd That's why i think it happened a year after the 3rd ninja war. So i mean, Kakashi was 14 at that time, when Minato was a year older than in the 3rd ninja war, but we don't really know how old he was at that time. But what we're sure is that he became hokage directly after the war(maybe cuz they have seen his power). That means Minato didn't even had time to enjoy his time as hokage.

Yes Kakashi looked older, but in one year something like that could happen. Just see how Itachi was when he was 13.

 

[Blaze Release]

Lol. xd That's why i think it happened a year after the 3rd ninja war. So i mean, Kakashi was 14 at that time, when Minato was a year older than in the 3rd ninja war, but we don't really know how old he was at that time. But what we're sure is that he became hokage directly after the war(maybe cuz they have seen his power). That means Minato didn't even had time to enjoy his time as hokage.

Yes Kakashi looked older, but in one year something like that could happen. Just see how Itachi was when he was 13.

I still maintain the stance that jonins in charge of genins have a 10-15 year gap and ive used asuma, kakashi, hiruzen, kurenai and gai as examples. Therefore i believe this is also constant, no different to the sexes and group number.

As for the Itachi thing, that actually got me not to discuss anime characters age, it can be so confusing because they might look younger or older than their age, but also plot might influence certain things and due to that there might be plot holes.

 

[NarutoKage2]

Well if he were alive today there would'nt be a 'Naruto' show at all. Simple.