[Discussion] what do people have against hashirama defeating madara

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Look Madara was old, lived to see the 3rd Ninja war thats the time of Nagato childhood, the strain at His age of opening the Rinnegan must have shorten His life.
 

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Well Hashirama obviously didn't face Rinnegan Madara due to his gaining the eye shortly before death and having met Nagato. But I still respect the fact that Hashirama is able to beat a EMS Madara. He would no doubt ably have more Jutsu's than we know about. I hope we can get some clarification though.
 
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