What difficulty did Obito push Minato to during the fight for Konoha?

What difficulty was the fight?

  • Neg diff

    Votes: 8 13.1%
  • Low diff

    Votes: 9 14.8%
  • Medium diff

    Votes: 25 41.0%
  • High diff

    Votes: 8 13.1%
  • Extremely high diff

    Votes: 11 18.0%

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Draphsin

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Lol, you countered nothing in your previous post.

Says the one who got his post countered. Lol

Amd you're so hypocritical, you're being a fanboy over Obito and refusing to acknowledge that he actually got owned.

Oh so laughable, I'm merely stating facts, everything I said was a fact so go ahead & look for yourself because you clearly didn't read my previous post.

But I guess that denial is something I can't change, every rational thinker knows how this fight went down, and it was by no means a struggle for minato.

More nonsense? Typical, I wouldn't expect anything less. How about you stop avoiding the points. Can't? Well what a surprise [not really (¬‿¬)]

But alas believe whatever you want, if it makes you feel better, Obito would have killed almost anybody in the same scenario. Too bad minato is his worst matchup.

Actually it makes me feel better knowing that there are people like you who stomp their fists & smash their keyboards when someone makes a fool of them.

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Oh don't make me pull up the scan of minato tripping over his own feet. XD

So obito let madara take the gedo mazo out of him thus pushing guy to high diff via gates?
That's pretty much what you're saying.

The gedo mazou is a shell summon & madara & obito have complete control over it. Madara used that summon to create the juubi, in any other scenario the gedo does nothing.

Obito said it perfectly when talking to sasuke, kurama is basically nothing more than a natural disaster & obito brought it to konoha, he caused the damage that kurama caused, as he didn't know any better & was no smarter than a beast at the time.
 
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Draphsin solo'd this thread, simple as that.
 

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The gedo mazou is a shell summon & madara & obito have complete control over it. Madara used that summon to create the juubi, in any other scenario the gedo does nothing.

Obito said it perfectly when talking to sasuke, kurama is basically nothing more than a natural disaster & obito brought it to konoha, he caused the damage that kurama caused, as he didn't know any better & was no smarter than a beast at the time.

So even though obito lost control of the mazo... It's still him. Right?
 

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So even though obito lost control of the mazo... It's still him. Right?

No the mazou is a summon that one can control, it's in madara's possession so it's madara's now. Obito had possession of it but he lost it.
 

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No the mazou is a summon that one can control, it's in madara's possession so it's madara's now. Obito had possession of it but he lost it.
He lost it. It's no longer in his control.
From that point on it would be someone else's doing.
Stop giving obito responsibility for kurama's actions.
 

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He lost it. It's no longer in his control.
From that point on it would be someone else's doing.
Stop giving obito responsibility for kurama's actions.

Kurama doesn't know better, he was going to go on a rampage ragardless of where he was, that's the point. obito brought him there so obito caused the damage, stop discrediting obito's plan.
 

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Kurama doesn't know better, he was going to go on a rampage ragardless of where he was, that's the point. obito brought him there so obito caused the damage, stop discrediting obito's plan.

You're low balling kurama.
He has a mind of his own, and he became well aware of minato's plan to seal him.
By you're logic everything madara is currently doing is should be also accredited to obito.
 

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You're low balling kurama.
He has a mind of his own, and he became well aware of minato's plan to seal him.

And he was pissed off at being sealed inside of mito & kushina for years, he was going to rampage no matter what, it was just a matter of who was going to break him free.

By you're logic everything madara is currently doing is should be also accredited to obito.

How..?

Gathering the bijuu in one place was obito's doing, & preserving madara's rinnegan for him was obito's doing. What madara's doing now & what he's done before are his decisions, those decisions are focused & he has a plan unlike the wild kurama who is basically a natural disaster that destroys everything in it's path.
 

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And he was pissed off at being sealed inside of mito & kushina for years, he was going to rampage no matter what, it was just a matter of who was going to break him free.
It's still kuramas choice. Not obito's. He made a conscious decision that obito had zero control over. So why should obito get the credit?



Because obito already said reviving madara was already apart of his plans for infinite moon eye. Obito is obviously no longer apart of this plan but if maddy fulfills it all credit goes to obito. We should give kabuto credit for maddy's actions to right? Since he summoned something he lost control of.


Gathering the bijuu in one place was obito's doing, & preserving madara's rinnegan for him was obito's doing.
obito's doing. Madara's plan. Maddy had no control over obito's or nagato's action but according to you credit goes to maddy for keeling over and dying.
doing now & what he's done before are his decisions,
Just like kurama . He has a conscious capable of making decisions.just because he was going to do it doesn't mean the choice wasn't his.
decisions are focused & he has a plan unlike the wild kurama who is basically a natural disaster that destroys everything in it's path.

Funny enough that's what kurama said about humans.
Even though it was clear as day even when they were young they made their own choices.
 

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It's still kuramas choice. Not obito's. He made a conscious decision that obito had zero control over. So why should obito get the credit?

Obito freed kurama, he set the danger onto the village. If obito never freed kurama then kurama would never have destroyed the village.

Its similar to kabuto, he set madara onto the world, it's his fault that madara is currently alive & about to end the world, just like it's obito's fault that kurama damaged the village, they are both a result of another's actions.

That doesn't mean that all of madara's feats, decisions, & actions now belong to kabuto, they both had differing agendas unlike kurama & obito who desired the same thing.

Because obito already said reviving madara was already apart of his plans for infinite moon eye. Obito is obviously no longer apart of this plan but if maddy fulfills it all credit goes to obito. We should give kabuto credit for maddy's actions to right? Since he summoned something he lost control of.

You're confusing yourself, Lol. Obito's plan would then be to revive madara, what madara does after his revival is his doing but obito would still be responsible for madara's revival, there's a difference.

Kabuto's plan was to use an edo tensei version of madara, little did he know he was actually setting a terrible danger onto the world, ye's he's responsible for madara coming back to life, but what madara does after that is his business & what he did after that was different to what kabuto wanted him to do [once he broke free].

Obito's plan was to use kurama to destroy the village, he succeeded in extracting it & he succeeded in bringing it to the village, what it does after that point doesnt matter as it's doing what obito planned for it to do, which is destroy the village. If kurama didn't end up destroying the village then that decision would belong to him & not obito, as it goes against his wishes.

So what if minato breaks the contract? Obito brought a bijuu to the village, how on earth do you not see that as his responsibility? it actually makes no sense.

obito's doing. Madara's plan. Maddy had no control over obito's or nagato's action but according to you credit goes to maddy for keeling over and dying.

Stop using bad logic that has nothing to do with mine. Obito destroyed konoha, & controlled yagura, was that part of madara's plan?? Nagato destroyed it too, & he betrayed obito, was that part of his plan?? No, they did their own things because they know better & have their own decisions. Obito used kurama as a tool, kurama's goal was to rampage & obito let him do so in the place he chose.

Now, let's say obito summons kurama in konoha & minato breaks the contract. If kurama then turned around & decided to go destroy kumo or kiri then would that not be obito's fault, that would then be kurama's fault & his fault alone.

Obito & kurama had similar agendas, therefore obito manipulated him [somewhat] into doing exactly what he wanted, sure kurama wants to destroy the village too but obito is the one that allowed & that to happen.

Just like kurama . He has a conscious capable of making decisions.just because he was going to do it doesn't mean the choice wasn't his.

It doesn't matter who's choice it was it's not his fault that he got released & summoned into konoha, that was obito's fault, & what does kurama do? He plays along, or rather he plays right into obito's hands, now even if the contract is still broken kurama is still doing what obito wants, therefore it's his fault.

Funny enough that's what kurama said about humans.
Even though it was clear as day even when they were young they made their own choices.

Again it doesn't matter in the slightest. Kurama didn't release himself & attack konoha, obito did it, therefore obito is responsible for the danger he set on the village.

Obito wanted kurama to destroy konoha, so removing the contract still doesn't change what obito planned or his responsibility in this.

If kurama decided not to fight anymore & just sat there then that would be his & only his decision, however the fact that he wanted to do exactly what obito wanted him to do shows us that it was obito's fault for allowing such a thing to be possible.
 

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It was obviously neg diff

Minato did like 2 moves and shit on him. It was dumb easy
 
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