What defeats Yata Mirror?

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Nah, it's got a weakness. Your attack just gotta be fast enough to hit Itachi before he can block it.

Everything has a weakness. Itachi was a preacher of this philosophy so saying it doesn't contradicts even your fanism of Itachi.
Defeating Itachi before he uses Yata Mirror isn't by definition defeating the technique, it's defeating Itachi. In shorthand form the question is, what technique/jutsu gets through Yata Mirror's defense. I don't or wouldn't consider Itachi's "philosophy" a technique/jutsu.....
 

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Defeating Itachi before he uses Yata Mirror isn't by definition defeating the technique, it's defeating Itachi. In shorthand form the question is, what technique/jutsu gets through Yata Mirror's defense. I don't or wouldn't consider Itachi's "philosophy" a technique/jutsu.....
That's what I address in my former post.

That's a spurious post honestly. Where in the post did I even put philosophy and jutsu in the same sentence?
 
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That's what I address in my former post.

That's a spurious post honestly. Where in the post did I even put philosophy and jutsu in the same sentence?
Do you need to reread your post?

Nah, it's got a weakness. Your attack just gotta be fast enough to hit Itachi before he can block it.

Everything has a weakness. Itachi was a preacher of this philosophy so saying it doesn't contradicts even your fanism of Itachi.

The question was what's defeats Yata Mirror right? You implied that it has a weakness or can be defeated based on attacking Itachi before he gets the chance to use it and you vindicated that in addition to generally saying that it can be defeated by citing Itachi's "philosophy" of everything having a weakness. Op basically asked what tech/jutsu defeated it, "philosophy" isn't that..

Again, defeating Itachi before he can use Yata Mirror isn't countering or breaking through its defense.

I should remove posts when they're no longer relevant then?

How do I even know that you didn't get that idea from my other post in the first place? You don't seem capable of that clairvoyance :nefer:
Your reply to my post that's based on the OP is relevant or do you not read what you post? I don't need a physic ability to figure that much out :coffee:
 
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Brute force or chakra absorption. It just grants an elemental resistance against enemy jutsu, otherwise it's a regular Susano'o shield, and lots of attacks can break a Susano'o. It's not as if elemental resistance makes it impervious to attacks, either. Naruto's Wind-style Bijuudama should have an edge against Sasuke's Indra's Arrow, but the attacks still cancelled each other out.
It's not a regular Susanoo shield. Just look it up.
 

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Do you need to reread your post?


The question was what's defeats Yata Mirror right? You implied that it has a weakness or can be defeated based on attacking Itachi before he gets the chance to use it and you vindicated that in addition to generally saying that it can be defeated by citing Itachi's "philosophy" of everything having a weakness. Op basically asked what tech/jutsu defeated it, "philosophy" isn't that..

Again, defeating Itachi before he can use Yata Mirror isn't countering or breaking through its defense.
If you read coherently, then you should see, another post follows that's in retrospect of that post you're so adamantly stuck to (which means I had an afterthought). The OP hasn't even confirmed what he meant exactly by defeat. That could have different meanings. Bypassing it could be the same as defeating it as that's also nullifying its effects from countering your attacks.
 

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Do you need to reread your post?


The question was what's defeats Yata Mirror right? You implied that it has a weakness or can be defeated based on attacking Itachi before he gets the chance to use it and you vindicated that in addition to generally saying that it can be defeated by citing Itachi's "philosophy" of everything having a weakness. Op basically asked what tech/jutsu defeated it, "philosophy" isn't that..

Again, defeating Itachi before he can use Yata Mirror isn't countering or breaking through its defense.



Your reply to my post that's based on the OP is relevant or do you not read what you post? I don't need a physic ability to figure that much out :coffee:
So the other post went over your head or should I infer it with you too? :nefer:

There you go:

"The subject in question pertains to it getting destroyed in the process. What's being alluded to is the actual weapon getting obliterated or remotely destroyed. Whatever that works.

I think my former post puts that out of the equation. Unless the OP confirms it, I'll assume he meant destroy by defeat, as said former has more sense than meaning bypassing its defense"
 
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If you read coherently, then you should see, another post follows that's in retrospect of that post you're so adamantly stuck to (which means I had an afterthought).
I am reading coherently, the response that expressed your "retrospect" wasn't referred to the individual discussion between us. You need to engage or rely your thoughts wether they be revised or not coherently, you would do the discussion justice if you'd would've expressed your retrospect to me directly when you replied.

The OP hasn't even confirmed what he meant exactly by defeat.
Which is why you need to coherently use common sense and apply the definition "defeat"..

That could have different meanings. Bypassing it could be the same as defeating it as that's also nullifying its feffects from countering your attacks.
Bypassing Yata Mirror or defeating Itachi before he can use it isn't by definition defeating it or beating its defense because the attack is being implemented before Yata is being used. What technique gets through it?

Trollmoto loves that dislike button, especially when it comes to my post. :lol:
 
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I am reading coherently, the response that expressed your "retrospect" wasn't referred to the individual discussion between us. You need to engage or rely your thoughts wether they be revised or not coherently, you would do the discussion justice if you'd would've expressed your retrospect to me directly when you replied.



Which is why you need to coherently use common sense and apply the definition "defeat"..



Bypassing Yata Mirror or defeating Itachi before he can use it isn't by definition defeating it or beating its defense because the attack is being implemented before Yata is being used. What technique gets through it?

Trollmoto loves that dislike button, especially when it comes to my post. :lol:
That's what I said in the other post. Just recycled XD
 
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That's what I said in the other post. Just recycled XD
A post in a reply to me? Or someone else?

Don't think too hard :lmao:

But I'm content in you avoiding your incompetence just remember next time that you have to actually voice your "retrospect" directly too the person your speaking with if you wish for them to understand what your saying or too compute your "retrospect"..
 
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A post in a reply to me? Or someone else?

Don't think too hard :lmao:

But I'm content in you avoiding your incompetence just remember next time that you have to actually voice your "retrospect" the directly too the person your talking to if you wish for them to understand what your saying or compute your "retrospect"..
Bruh, tell me how this is different from marking a student's answer as wrong because he wrote a wrong answer which he cancelled out and wrote a completely different one.

Are you seriously gonna crucify me for something I specifically marked as trivial and might have been wrong in?

If that isn't over thinking, I don't know what is.

Plus, I don't really care what your take on my opinion is. You don't daunt me in any way, so why should I be compelled to justify myself. I've said it once. You don't strike as me as a sort of person who could think of such on his own. What I see here is someone trying to come across as clairvoyant when they actually swindle someone else's idea and just rewrote the words to make it seem they came up with it.

I don't even know why I'm perpetuating this argument, 'cause it's clear to you or anyone else what I thought ultimately. The idea was there so it doesn't matter what I decided. And the OP isn't even bothered to say anything on this. So this thread is dead anyways. In short: give up on making me seem asinine so you could be established as adroit and perceptive when the idea wasn't originally yours :nefer:
 
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It was said to block all 5 elements perfectly. A strong kekkai genkai might pass through it. Amd Kakashi/Obito can get inside it no prob and some can peneterate through ground. Even a big shinra tensei is gonna destroy it.
 

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If you read coherently, then you should see, another post follows that's in retrospect of that post you're so adamantly stuck to (which means I had an afterthought). The OP hasn't even confirmed what he meant exactly by defeat. That could have different meanings. Bypassing it could be the same as defeating it as that's also nullifying its effects from countering your attacks.
I think the question is straight forward and not a double edge. When people are talking about 'Yata' and 'can it be destroy'/'its limit' it pretty much the talking between Yata and the technique that possibly can overpower it. For it intent and purpose, it pretty a straight forward question.

Most of the time I'm here when people were discussing about Yata, if it involves Itachi as a subject beside Yata as another subject, the question will talk about both, example: " can kamui bypass Yata and hit Itachi?" or "what attack can damage Itachi that hide behind Yata?" but here its only Yata as the subject but not Itachi as question like this is nothing new here and OP just being an unintelligent person for asking a same question for a thousand times.
 

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I think the question is straight forward and not a double edge. When people are talking about 'Yata' and 'can it be destroy'/'its limit' it pretty much the talking between Yata and the technique that possibly can overpower it. For it intent and purpose, it pretty a straight forward question.

Most of the time I'm here when people were discussing about Yata, if it involves Itachi as a subject beside Yata as another subject, the question will talk about both, example: " can kamui bypass Yata and hit Itachi?" or "what attack can damage Itachi that hide behind Yata?" but here its only Yata as the subject but not Itachi as question like this is nothing new here and OP just being an unintelligent person for asking a same question for a thousand times.
That's what I ****ing said in the other post. **** this, I'm not gonna argue anymore with you "smart asses".

The question isn't really that forward. The OP hasn't come to say anything yet to confirm your claim. I agreed that by defeating Yata he meant destroying it. But what the f does defeating it even mean? By my account, defeating something means the subject concerned has intentions of fighting, and can in fact retaliate if needed.

You can look the word up. It refers to a fight or war that has been won, in which case the subjects were involved in a fight. Which raises doubt in what he was referring to by that. I don't know what you were taught in your school but mine taught me that defeating someone means the other person had "intentions" of winning or triumphing as a subsequent event of the happenstance of the fight, which can't apply to a mere weapon, which is void of feeling any emotions or vehemence.

I don't know what's so hard about admitting that the OP could have gone wrong in the question. He didn't specify or make clear of what he was really referring to. To the Yata being destroyed in the process, or just bypassing its defense. As that's defeating it in a theoretical sense if Itachi gets hurt. Which means it was nullified from protecting its wielder. That meaning that the weapon got bested in some sense.

I'm only even arguing against your claims now because you were too decadent to absorb what I said later on. Which was that the OP meant only the weapon and Itachi was just a secondary subject with no relevance to the raised matter.

I'd like therefore, to submit that I will not peruse your imminent post because I'm kind of irritating hearing the same thing get incessantly get repeated without any sensible thing being raise.
 
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