What 2 man team can beat Naruto + Kakashi?
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Don't forget Minato barely defeated 16-year old Obito. He wouldn't be able to compete with Obito now, he's grown way too powerful.
So, while I agree that Minato>Kakashi most likely, Kakashi with Kyuubi's cloak>Minato IMO.
And I wouldn't say Obito's Kamui mastery when he fought Minato was greater than current Kakashi's mastery of Kamui.
Kakashi's kamui is FASTER than CURRENT Obito's Kamui, which was confirmed by Obito himself. So it's definitely faster than 16-year old Obito's Kamui.
It is also long ranged, as opposed to Obito's. Obito lost against Minato because he needed to make contact with him to suck him up. If he could have used Kamui like Kakashi can, Minato would have been screwed badly.
IMO Hashirama and Madara would win against Naruto & Kakashi combination mid to high difficulties.
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block...... what can block a spiritual sword that bind anything it touches it can be dodged i agree but its not like kakashi can dodge it dude.....look at the size of the sword and the speed it swung at the ground it covers is faster than anything kakashi can mvoe at, he gets sealed then 2 v 1.......
you provoked totsuka by thinking a kamui would be it. there are reverse summons, etc dont tell me an anbu captain, genious wouldn't know about such things...
and nagato will suck in a few of naruto's attacks and gain his form back... then hes at the top of his game....
I'm positive that Kyuubi-empowered Kamui could handle Totsuka. I know it's ethereal, but so are Susanoo's arrows and Kamui could warp them. I see no reason why this could not apply to Totsuka.
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Are you implying Itachi beats Madara? Because Susanoo should, by your logic, not be able to block Totsuka.
Kamui is instant. Using Susanoo and swinging the sword takes time. Itachi loses to war arc kakashi.
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Itachi was able to invoke susanoo faster than lightning, he can just as easily take it off. waste of kamui and chakra, then bring it back out.
from manga feats of totsuka it can only be evaded. not blocked, touch means seal.
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Pfff. Kakashi always acts tough.
Zabuza, itachi, hidan, kakuzu, sasuke, tobi/madara, obito. Only once he admitted his inferiority from the start, it was vs PEIN
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neither kakashi nor naruto have it
you used susanoo as a way to block totsuka but its not relevent to the argument. and even than the target wouldn't be susanoo it would be whats inside it.
Pain and Itachi .. KA wont work on them all ..Multiple summons would get in the way as well... YM And totska drive back BM naruto untill either pain beats kakashi ..( which is inevitable) or BM mode runs out ..
Pain Uses Bansho Tensei ... And kakashi is sitting duck for totska .. Same with naruto may be able to speed outside the Range of it but he would eventually be brought down by them both
Pain Uses Bansho Tensei ... And kakashi is sitting duck for totska .. Same with naruto may be able to speed outside the Range of it but he would eventually be brought down by them both
You're totally wrong. He was actually always very modest about himself.
-He claimed Zabuza was stronger than he imagined.
-He claimed there are ninja younger than Naruto and stronger than him (which is obviously incorrect, as we haven't seen any in the series so far)
-Against Itachi he admitted he might die
-He admitted Pain is stronger than him, as you mentioned
Kakashi knows his limitations very well, he actually underrates himself. He believed himself to be trash and a failure due to letting Obito and Rin die and this also influenced his perception of his own abilities.
That's why when Kakashi says he can do something, it's almost definitely legit. His enemies sometimes think he is arrogant, but this is because they don't know Kakashi is even tougher than he thinks he is.
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Itachi can't use KA.
Shisui/Madara or Shisui/Hashirama or Danzo/Hashi Danzo/Madara can win since KA takes out one of Naruto or Kakashi.
Shisui/Madara or Shisui/Hashirama or Danzo/Hashi Danzo/Madara can win since KA takes out one of Naruto or Kakashi.
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but it was in itachis possesion even though it was shisuis itachi had it
kyubi used to be kushinas... and was sealed in naruto does that mean naruto cant use it?
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Itachi can't use KA. He rigged it to activate against his MS, but he can't use it since his eye is not connected to it.
It's different. Kyuubi is part of Naruto now, while Shisui's eye was more like a tool to Itachi, a useful trinket.
KA isn't Itachi's power in the same way Kyuubi's cloak is not Kakashi's power. It's borrowed, not his own and can be taken from him easily.