Were the akatsuki trolled?

fastrthnwind

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We all know that all of the akatsuki members were very powerful S-ranked criminals and made even more powerful in pairs.

Many people think that each member was trolled in their own ways, but were their deaths really trolling, or was it legitimate?

Lets take a look at each member who died.

1)Sasori

Sasori was a ninja who was capable of taking over an entire village with his 100 puppet technique, and even defeated the third Kazekage. So why was it that he lost against only two people? Lets break down his advantages of his fighting style:

First off, Hiruko was his first layer of defense. One could not attempt to hurt Sasori if they did not first break his first layer of defense.

Sakura was trained to use a strength-enhancing technique that could almost rival her sensei's legendary strength. This coupled with Granny chiyos support was what allowed them to overcome this obstacle and was one part of them being able to defeat Sasori.

Sasori was known to use poison within the traps of his puppets which was considered so deadly that even one scratch was enough to kill anyone.

Now, Sakura is a very good medic-nin trained in the art by the greatest medic ninja to ever live, Tsunade, herself. She is also well versed in the extraction of poison and creating antidotes for them, which she had done so with Sasori's poison prior to fighting him when Kankuro was poisoned himself.

Sasori also happens to fight using many puppets all at once to overwhelm his enemies.

Sakura as a medic-nin was trained in the art of evasion, so that she could avoid being hurt while at the same time was able to use her massive strength offensively in collaboration with Granny Chiyo's experience and abilities with using multiple puppets at once. Sakura was also able to use her keen observation skills to analyze how sasoris puppets reacted in accordance to how Sasori moved his fingers, giving her an added advantage in fighting against the many puppets.

Sasori can use the third hokages KKG to manipulate iron sand techniques similar to garras sand which is consdered to be very fast and, powerful, and laced with poison.

As mentioned before, Sakuras ability to evade attacks as a medic-nin helped her here along with Granny Chiyo's added support from the chakra threads.

In the end, Ssaori was defeated when his his core was struck by Granny Chiyo using the puppets that Sasori himself modeled after his parents. Though he could have dodged it, he chose to stay and die in his puppet-parent's embrace.

So can we say that Sasori's death was a troll?

In this case, it might be, but not so much as people are exaggerating it to be and it is only because Sasori could have dodged the last, fatal blow and could have fought a bit longer, though he chose defeat. These two were the perfect counter for him since they not only had an antidote for his poison, but knowledge on his abilities and fighting style thanks to the superior experience of Sasori's own grandmother, Granny Chiyo, and their ability to fight multiple opponents/puppets with a combination of multiple puppets and evasion skills.

So all-in-all a combo of preparation, intel, and the duo being a bad match-up for him

2)Deidara

Deidara was deadly long range bomber who made clever use of his detonation clay to strike his foes unexpectedly or to outright bombard them with a flurry of powerful explosions.

So, why did he lose against Sasuke?

Lets look at his fighting style and their advantages:

Deidara uses earth-type detonation clay to attack his opponents from a distance.

Sasuke's natural affinity is lightning, an element superior to earth, which he has plenty of techniques that he can use to diffuse deidaras bombs. He also had several mid-long range jutsus in his arsenal so that he could also attack from a distance.

Deidara usually stays in the air on a bird to attack his opponents.

Sasuke at the time had CM, which gave him limited flight capabilities so that he could reach Deidara.

Deidara also happens to have special types of bombs such as C4 to attack sasuke with

Sasuke has the sharingan, which allows him to see chakra as color. He can determine whether Deidara is trying to fool him and cleverly hide bombs from him.

Deidaras left eye is trained specifically to nullify sharingan genjutsu.

It's only his left eye, and it must be uncovered in order for it to work.

Finally, Deidaras suicide move C0 is capable of destroying anything within a 10km radius.

Sasuke is capable of summoning snakes to use to fight for him, like he did when he summoned the boss summon Manda to take the blow for him.


Now, in the end was this a legitimate win or was it a troll?

In this case, it was a troll since Sasuke should have run out of chakra at the same time Deidara did, yet he was able to summon a boss summon to take his place and protect him. Otherwise, it would have ended a tie, even though Sasuke had the elemental advantage, intel from his sharingan perception, and overall greater cunning which he used against Deidara several times.

3)Hidan

Hidan has an immortal body, being able to withstand and survive any woulds inflicted against him. He was teamed up with Kakuzu to make the Immortal Duo.


Now, Hidan doesnt have much in the way of ninjutsus other than his curse jutsu, though his taijutsu and his ability to use his three pronged scythe was considered to be formidable. Why did he lose to Shikamaru of all people?

Now about his method of fighting:

Hidan usually teams up with Kakuzu to take down his opponents by locking them in a taijutsu battle and allowing Kakuzu to attack them both, taking advantage of Hidan's immortality. In his fight with shikamaru, he didnt have Kakuzu to rely on, so he needed to use his curse jutsu to kill his opponents, which allows him to link their physical bodies when he ingests his opponents blood.

Shikamaru is a genius and was able to fool Hidan into thinking that Hidan had obtained some of his blood when it was really a sample of Kakuzus from a previous fight.

Hidan has much better taijutsu and can usually attack his opponent without much fear of being mortally wounded

Shikamaru used his incredible genius to manipulate his shadows and his sensei's weaponry to keep Hidan on his toes so that he wouldnt be caught in his jutsu

Overall, was Hidan trolled in this fight?

This is a clear no and the end result was a legitimate win for Shikamaru, since he had preparation, knowledge from his previous fight with him, locational advantage, and overall greater cunning than his opponent, who underestimated him for being considered weak. Had Hidan been more serious and more observant, he wouldn't have lost to Shikamaru so easily and maybe have won eventually, but Shikamaru is still greatly known for his ability to manipulate his opponents into believing whatever he wants them to.

4)Kakuzu

Kakuzu was a very old and experienced, yet powerful ninja whose only real goal in life was to get as much money as possible. He was paired up with Hidan because they were both considered to be practically immortal due their techniques

Why did Kakuzu lose to the Konoha Shinobi?

This is his method of fighting:

Kakuzu is capable of using all elements provided he has a heart that has the specific affinity. With them, he can use very powerful wide scale elemental jutsus to overwhelm his opponents and can even combine them to make them even more devastating. (His main affinity being Earth)

Kakashi was also another person who could use all elements, though not on the same scale as Kakuzu (though his main affinity, lightning, was superior to Kakuzu's.)

Kakuzus hearts could separate from his body and act of their own free will

The konoha shinobi also had numbers on their side to combat him and each heart.

Kakuzu had greater battle experience than all of the shinobi fighting him

The Konoha shinobi had at least one genius level shinobi with them to aid in their battle, Kakashi, who was also adept in battle.

In the end, was Kakuzu's death a troll?

In this fight he wasn't exactly trolled since he did lose due to his own fault, though he only lost because he miscalculated against Naruto's signature use of shadow clones feints, which he has done against nearly every foe he's faced. He would have won had Naruto not arrived to use his rasenshuriken.
5)Itachi

This is one of the most controversial fights of the entire NV where some say that Itachi had only lost because he was going easy on Sasuke and he also had his stamina reduced from sickness, and some say that Sasuke had grown to be more powerful than his brother at that time and ended up outlasting his brother to become victorious.

In order to avoid unnecessary flame wars, I am going to skip this fight altogether without any personal comment as to which I believe is what had actually happened.

6)Nagato

(note that this is the fight between the Leaf and the 6POP, not Itachi vs Nagato since that battle is about as controversial as the Itachi vs Sasuke fight)

Nagato was able to use all of the abilities of the Rinnegan and split them up between the 6 Paths of Pain and had also never lost fight before.

Why is it that his battle with the leaf ends in failure?

Now lets see his fighting style:

The 6POP were used in great coordination to cover for each others weaknesses.

This was nullified since he separated them when he attacked a whole village, who could learn more about their weaknesses since the pathes weren't able to cover for each other.

Nagato always liked to keep his identity and abilities hidden from the rest of the world in order to have the element of surprise.

In the fight with the leaf, hoowever, while they did not expect it, they were able to gather enough information about pain during their battle to relay the info to Naruto who used the info to his advantage.

Naruto was able to fight and win against the 6POP with the help of 3 boss summons, Ma and Pa, Hinata, and Kuramas chakra, but, in the end, was this whole fight a troll against Pain?

Because this was a fight between everyone in the leaf who was trying to protect Naruto, and Pain lost to Naruto due to his lack of judgement and Naruto's intel on his abilities and overall cunning with his clone jutsu, this fight was a legitaimate win for the Leaf village. Since no one ever had full knowledge of Pain's abilities and was unable to defeat him, it makes it even more convincing that it wasnt a troll against Nagato because it further emphasises the power of intel and preparation, even against something as powerful as the rinnegan.

Plz no flaming.

PS. I know Konan and Kisame are not on here. I will go into discussion if you guys want to though.
 
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Sasuke battle was tend to end in itachi's death and actually wasn't suppose to be that soon, he wanted to wait until sasuke got stronger but time ran out for him, plus he made itachi use susanoo.
 

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I agree with them there usually right
 

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Tl;dr. But yes, they got matched up against the worst possible people.

Sasori - fought Chiyo, the person that invented puppetry and only person who knows his style, and Sakura.
Deidara - Lightning and Sharingan user.
Hidan - fair enough.
Kakuzu - beaten by one move? Gotta hype that RasenShuriken.
Itachi - fair enough.
Nagato - Gotta hype Naruto and his RasenShuriken again.
 

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Sasori, deidora and kisame were trolled.
Itachi wasn't trolled he did what he wanted to.
Nagato was semi trolled especially talk no jutsu bs.
Konan and hidan are fodder
Kakuzu wasn't trolled
 

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Of course they were, almost all their defeats were bull. Mainly Sasori's, Diedara, and somewhat Kakuzu.
 
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Itachi wanted Sasuke to kill him.

Exactly, he never intended to use susanoo but he had to, if he was healthy and had waited for sasuke then the itachi fans would be even more butthurt because he would have owned itachi, by using susanoo he killed himself, he still had a few more min. than he did before he used it.
 

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And where is my main man Kisame? That asshat killed himself with sharks.
 

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Sasori in the end was the most trolled, yes in the end Chiyo and Sakura were prepared but they were both exhausted. Sasori didn't really have that limitation placed upon him, so he had much more of an advantage with less of a drain which makes preparation + evasion would be useless.
 

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Sasori and Kakuzu especially got trolled but itachi and nagato willingly chose to sacrifice themselves.
Hidan was destined to lose to shikamaru because he killed asuma so no I don't think he was trolled either
 

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Yes in a way....basically all of the members were either paired against opponents that exist as the ABSOLUTE worst match up, or made an action completely out of character

Kakuzu: he switched to long range mode, and then moved in for close range combat....absolute nonsense mistake for a Shinobi with his expirience.

Hidan: probably one of the least trolled....his problem was that he was deffinatly rash so it made sense that he wouldn't bother confirming Shikamaru's blood was the right one. Now I mean being buried alive is a troll within itself.

Itachi: he wanted to die in that fight so I don't really consider it a troll.

Sasori: WORST MATCH UP....Pair the one person who knows EVERY technique he has with the one person who had an antidote to his poison...

Deidara: Horrible match up....pair him against the one element that counters him...then have said opponent who is out of chakra to suddenly do a mass summoning last second, get inside, and escape.

Pain: Naruto was technically beaten....Hinata's sacrifice acts to indirectly save him...ultimately leading to his defeat....plausible troll

Kisame: A troll by the fact a taijutsu suddenly OP's an already OP ninjutsu...would have thought the techniques would cancel....anyways that aside he died by his own will. I guess a sort of troll....also troll that he wasn't resurrected...one would think his blood was on the scroll or something...anything to help his boss right?!

Konan: Izanagi....that is all XD

Zetsu: -.- terrible...White Zetsu randomly killed by Sasuke....no darn reason Black Zetsu incapacitated by Chojiro who suddenly has a burst of rage....also his weapon that was initially a hammer becomes a extensible blade o_O
 
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Again, I am not going to bring up Sasuke vs Itachi, so I would appreciate it if that subject matter was dropped completely.

I also see some people are referring nagato's defeat as when he killed himself using rinne tensei. Im not referring to that defeat, but at the point Naruto disabled all of paths' bodies.
 

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i agree with some of your answers but you cant say naruto won thanks to his 3 boss summonings.
its part of naruto's technique. Its like saying pein wins his battles thanks to his
animal summoning and his 6path summoning which counts as help
 

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Yeah they were fodderized when they were reanimated.
 

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i agree with some of your answers but you cant say naruto won thanks to his 3 boss summonings.
its part of naruto's technique. Its like saying pein wins his battles thanks to his
animal summoning and his 6path summoning which counts as help

I didnt say that about him at all, but I was simply including all the people who battle with Naruto, which was the summons, naruto, Hinata, the leaf village, and kurama.
 

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Sasori was trolled the hardest.
Nah..Deidara was.. he was trapped in Kankuro's bin thing and wasn't heard of for quite a few chapters...Then didn't he fade away along with the rest of the people brought back, when Itachi canceled the Edo tensei?
 
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