Weaker senju Tobirama vs Tsunade

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Everyone knows these 2 are the weakest kage but who would win in a battle?
 

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Tobirama with hype.
 

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Well, based on feats Hiruzen is probably the weakest, and with hype that doesn't change much either. We just haven't seen enough of Tobirama to speak meaningfully about it yet. Hopefully that's about to change.
 

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Based on feats it's Tobirama that's the weakest since he showed 1 jutsu.

I'll give him the benefit of doubt, though. He was #2 Senju during the real wars. He trained Sarutobi and the Konoha Elders and held a battalion so that the others can escape.
 

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We're told he had Edo Tensei though...
 

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Tobirama was definately stronger than Tsunade.
 

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I think tobirama
 

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Tobirama is stronger. Supposed to be the greatest suiton user, combined with s/t techs and edo tensei. Tobirama wins, low diff.
 

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Tobirama is stronger. Supposed to be the greatest suiton user, combined with s/t techs and edo tensei. Tobirama wins, low diff.

The ET is a non factor here, because he can't find corpses in the middle of a battle, and he can't perform the ritual in the middle of a battle.
 

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I disagree. Even with his hype he can't defeat a Kage level opponent without difficulties.

He beat her low to no diff for the simple fact that he has edos that can 'devistate' a battle field according to madara (madaras saying that, that means a lot!) I haven't even started on the time space yet. We have seen what minato can do with time space, tobiramas time space may be different but the principle is still the same PLUS he was the best suiton user. Tsunade even with her formidable abillities dies low-no diff (based on hype)
 

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He beat her low to no diff for the simple fact that he has edos that can 'devistate' a battle field according to madara (madaras saying that, that means a lot!) I haven't even started on the time space yet. We have seen what minato can do with time space, tobiramas time space may be different but the principle is still the same PLUS he was the best suiton user. Tsunade even with her formidable abillities dies low-no diff (based on hype)

Based on hype, Tsunade can't die in a battle :y
 

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Based on hype, Tsunade can't die in a battle :y

So what you implicitly saying is that if someone were to put her up against thw sage himself, with madara her hype overthrows? She has no sealing techs, her charkra isn't infinite so she loses even with hype, its a fact that once your charkra is depleted you can no Longer fight
 

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with hype: Tobirama low-no diff

Nah. I know u don't like her, but saying Tobirama would stomp her low diff is ridiculous.
Tobirama is stronger. Supposed to be the greatest suiton user, combined with s/t techs and edo tensei. Tobirama wins, low diff.

He can't use the Edo Tensei in battles, unless if he has prep time.
 

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Nah. I know u don't like her, but saying Tobirama would stomp her low diff is ridiculous.


He can't use the Edo Tensei in battles, unless if he has prep time.

Its not even that its tsunade, his hype his basically that good. I would say the same to kakashi, mei ect (not something ridiculous like madara though) with feats tsunade wins but she has no sealing techs and no counter for time space, he suiton keeps her on her toes. Peopan use her hype but the thruth is her charkra isn't that of an edos, it has a limit
 

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Its not even that its tsunade, his hype his basically that good. I would say the same to kakashi, mei ect (not something ridiculous like madara though) with feats tsunade wins but she has no sealing techs and no counter for time space, he suiton keeps her on her toes. Peopan use her hype but the thruth is her charkra isn't that of an edos, it has a limit

Of course her chakra has its limits, but you can't deny the fact she has a lot of chakra.
Um, I already said he can't summon the edos, unless if he has prep time. It seems like you ignored it :p
But even if he summons an Edo, lets say a jounin level, what can that do against Tsunade? Kill her with an elemental attack? Nah.
Or I don't see why can't she just remove the talisman from the Edo's head.
 

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Of course her chakra has its limits, but you can't deny the fact she has a lot of chakra.
Um, I already said he can't summon the edos, unless if he has prep time. It seems like you ignored it :p
But even if he summons an Edo, lets say a jounin level, what can that do against Tsunade? Kill her with an elemental attack? Nah.
Or I don't see why can't she just remove the talisman from the Edo's head.

I'm not saying she doesn't but an edo according to hype can fight non stop so it negates the fact that she has masses of charkra
Fires water dragons, casts clones (he should be able to since to even be genin you need to be able to perfect clone) prep isn't a prob even w/o clones, the guy can surf waves without a dam surfboard!

Again its an edo, it can't be killed even if it is jounin level (high jounin level=temari or rock lees level of fighting) its can fight forever basically, she will get tired, and beacuse its not just one edo even if it was she has tobrama to worry about to
 
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