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The only safe haven in the world during the rapture would be in Jerusalem after the war is over. Thats where the new kingdom will be established

well after war,according to our faith
the whole world(not only jersalem) will be a peaceful place,there will be no wars after that war till judgement day
 

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Not only that but Males were accepted more as leaders back then, and even now. So in order to gain any followers he chose a man.

This may be true but I do not intend to belittle women in any way. You know what I mean?
 

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Wow you are very smart to learn so many languages! Great job! And I can't give you an answer besides God. English is my first language and I find it hard myself to not call God a "he'

well thanks
now i intend to learn arabic(i can read it)but nor can i understand nor speak)


can i ask something ur sig
Noah the man who made a ship,and survived that great flood?(long story i know it)
but i think in english,the names are very changed,and its hard for me
same goes of cain and abel,(dont know who is HABEEL,AND QABEEL)

why dont u english people use real names,instead of changing them(a little) :)


oh the thing i wanted ask
what u mean by GOD was holding 3 aces?
 
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Have any of you thought that Heaven and Hell are not actually physical or spiritual "realm space" but rather a state of Being?
 

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Yes I agree! In order for God to become imperfect like us God needed to choose a gender. Male is the obvious because of no pregnancy. Jesus deliberately chose not to have children where as if God came down as a woman you never know what could've happened

men also have the ability to make children. isn't the story is that god came down from heaven and slept with Mary and she conceived his son and gave birth to jesus?

Your missing the ultimate point! All that suffering is okay as long as the lives that suffer and die are reborn endlessly! Then it just means all that pain was a great way to pass the time in an infinite existence

yes, an excellent way! ask everyone, all of us want to suffer and die just to be reborn again to suffer and die! who wouldn't want that? to be tortured and raped and starved and beaten and what not until judgment day where we go to hell. such a great bargain god gave us! and we can't even choose! because if we commit suicide in a desperate attemp to run away from this miserable hell we either being reborn or be judged and go to another hell. god is such a pure and merciful diety!
 

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Have any of you thought that Heaven and Hell are not physical or spiritual "realm space" but rather a state of Being?

Yes. That is my original Point. Life can be Heaven or Hell depending on what you personally believe.

Whether you believe in God or not You are right!
 

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suffering is never fair, it's painful and terrible and makes us cry and hate and kill (like obito is doing). if obito ever murdered or tortured anyone it is god's fault, because god allowed him to suffer.

if god erased suffering and pain, and fixed this stupid idea that you need to feel bad as a reference for feeling good so that we can feel good just by wanting too, then i will follow god. but if he keeps make people suffer and starve and die just so that when we feel good we will thank the bastard for helping us i will be against him until he choose to kill me. every bad feeling, every suffering is god's doing, god didn't just create the good parts, he also created the bad parts. he created satan and he create obito and he create murdereres and tortures and starving children in africa. he deserve no respect from anyone.


We learn more by pain and suffering, pain is what makes us know we are alive
 

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well after war,according to our faith
the whole world(not only jersalem) will be a peaceful place,there will be no wars after that war till judgement day

Wait arent you a Muslim?

I meant to say that Jerusalem will be the place where Christs kingdom will begin.
 

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Yes it is my heaven and eventually in time you will learn that that is all you need. He is not gonna create chakra for you to make your ninjutsu. He isnot gonna give you sharingan eyes. When Naruto ends and youd have grown up youll quickly reasses your priorities

Yeah, yeah, I know. It's a long-shot that God will create a world just for me, but it's possible and I will always hope for it.
Haha just stop, dude. If you knew me , you would understand why that will never, and I mean never be my life. If I ever find myself living the same lifestyle as most of the United States' population, I would go insane. I'm huge on individuaity, greatness, and distingtion (incorrectly spelled, I know).
I desire achievements, achievements, and more achievements. I can never have a significant other for two reasons: there will never be room for her in my life and I plan to make money mostly to give it to people I consider to be good. I hardly give any sh*ts about my own happiness.
 

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men also have the ability to make children. isn't the story is that god came down from heaven and slept with Mary and she conceived his son and gave birth to jesus?



yes, an excellent way! ask everyone, all of us want to suffer and die just to be reborn again to suffer and die! who wouldn't want that? to be tortured and raped and starved and beaten and what not until judgment day where we go to hell. such a great bargain god gave us! and we can't even choose! because if we commit suicide in a desperate attemp to run away from this miserable hell we either being reborn or be judged and go to another hell. god is such a pure and merciful diety!

Mary conceived Jesus without ***. She gave birth to him as a virgin which would have been extremely painful! And the second point you made is invalid if without life nothing existed. Which is better... Nothingness for eternity? Or having experiences (Good and Bad) for all eternity?
 

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suffering is never fair, it's painful and terrible and makes us cry and hate and kill (like obito is doing). if obito ever murdered or tortured anyone it is god's fault, because god allowed him to suffer.

if god erased suffering and pain, and fixed this stupid idea that you need to feel bad as a reference for feeling good so that we can feel good just by wanting too, then i will follow god. but if he keeps make people suffer and starve and die just so that when we feel good we will thank the bastard for helping us i will be against him until he choose to kill me. every bad feeling, every suffering is god's doing, god didn't just create the good parts, he also created the bad parts. he created satan and he create obito and he create murdereres and tortures and starving children in africa. he deserve no respect from anyone.

No no no.....we aren't worthy of unending happiness at our own will! If we always got what made us happy it would very often take away what makes others happy. So we must prove we deserve it to God.
God is a man, thats why in the bible it says he created man in his image then man was lonely so he made a woman

It isn't worded the way you have worded it and so it does not hold the same meaning.

Your missing the ultimate point! All that suffering is okay as long as the lives that suffer and die are reborn endlessly! Then it just means all that pain was a great way to pass the time in an infinite existence

I agree entirely without the pain there is no relief and therefore no challenge, no game to keep us entertained as we try to gain what makes us happy.
 

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Yes. That is my original Point. Life can be Heaven or Hell depending on what you personally believe.

Whether you believe in God or not You are right!

Well in Catholic Theology, "Heaven" or "Perfect Bliss" is achieved through the Beatific Vision, in Buddhism, Perfect Bliss (or "Heaven" if you want to call it) is achieved through Nirvana or the liberation from Samsara which can be achieved here on Earth
 

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Yeah, yeah, I know. It's a long-shot that God will create a world just for me, but it's possible and I will always hope for it.
Haha just stop, dude. If you knew me , you would understand why that will never, and I mean never be my life. If I ever find myself living the same lifestyle as most of the United States' population, I would go insane. I'm huge on individuaity, greatness, and distingtion (incorrectly spelled, I know).
I desire achievements, achievements, and more achievements. I can never have a significant other for two reasons: there will never be room for her in my life and I plan to make money mostly to give it to people I consider to be good. I hardly give any sh*ts about my own happiness.

I love everything you post and I feel the same way sometimes that God created this whole world so I could have fun and be happy I think that everyone is special in their own way. The only thing I urge you do to is forget about the money! Success is not measured by dollars. Enjoy writing but find time to have a wife and children so your legacy can live on :)
 

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This may be true but I do not intend to belittle women in any way. You know what I mean?

That's not belittling when you consider all of the amazing advantages women have over men and then men have different ones over women. It does truly equal out in the end.
 

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Wait arent you a Muslim?

I meant to say that Jerusalem will be the place where Christs kingdom will begin.

yes i am
oh and ok i got the meaning now,but according to our faith,the whole earth will be ruled by MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS combined
it is also stated that Jesus will ask u guyz to convert to ISLAM(i dont wanna talk about converting,bcoz,it may start flame)
 

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No no no.....we aren't worthy of unending happiness at our own will! If we always got what made us happy it would very often take away what makes others happy. So we must prove we deserve it to God.


It isn't worded the way you have worded it and so it does not hold the same meaning.



I agree entirely without the pain there is no relief and therefore no challenge, no game to keep us entertained as we try to gain what makes us happy.

It the same meaning is some bible
 

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well thanks
now i intend to learn arabic(i can read it)but nor can i understand nor speak)


can i ask something ur sig
Noah the man who made a ship,and survived that great flood?(long story i know it)
but i think in english,the names are very changed,and its hard for me
same goes of cain and abel,(dont know who is HABEEL,AND QABEEL)

why dont u english people use real names,instead of changing them(a little) :)


oh the thing i wanted ask
what u mean by GOD was holding 3 aces?

My sig is kind of a joke I heard on a tv show. But it references the story of Noah's Ark. Noah saves one male and one female of every species from the great flood to repopulate the earth. It is basically a joke saying God is always the greatest
 

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Mary conceived Jesus without ***. She gave birth to him as a virgin which would have been extremely painful! And the second point you made is invalid if without life nothing existed. Which is better... Nothingness for eternity? Or having experiences (Good and Bad) for all eternity?

thats true mary gave birth jesus without ***,jesus and ADAM was the only 2 peoples who was born without father
ADAM was born without parents,most likely*_*


My sig is kind of a joke I heard on a tv show. But it references the story of Noah's Ark. Noah saves one male and one female of every species from the great flood to repopulate the earth. It is basically a joke saying God is always the greatest

yes i know that,he repopulated earth

and what about names?y dont english people use real names without changing them?(a little)
that would be alot easier for both english and nonenglish people
 
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Mary conceived Jesus without ***. She gave birth to him as a virgin which would have been extremely painful! And the second point you made is invalid if without life nothing existed. Which is better... Nothingness for eternity? Or having experiences (Good and Bad) for all eternity?

defenitly yes, no existence is better then an existence of suffering. besides, we are allowed to choose right? free will an all? can i choose to delete my existence and not exist? or am i just going to be reborn to this world or go to heaven or hell? i ask god give me an option to delete my existence and every feeling good or bad and i will take it immediately.

No no no.....we aren't worthy of unending happiness at our own will! If we always got what made us happy it would very often take away what makes others happy. So we must prove we deserve it to God.

god decided we are no worthy of unending happiness. what give him the right to choose for us? fine ok what you said if we take away what makes others happy then those people are bad and should suffer and be punished. but i never killed or stole or raped or beaten anyone. why should i suffer?
 

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Well in Catholic Theology, "Heaven" or "Perfect Bliss" is achieved through the Beatific Vision, in Buddhism, Perfect Bliss (or "Heaven" if you want to call it) is achieved through Nirvana or the liberation from Samsara which can be achieved here on Earth

This is where our age difference shows! I have not learned enough about world religions In my 18 years although I am familiar with the wheel of samsara! I would like to believe that Both Buddhism and Catholicism could be combined somehow. Like the best of both religions.
 
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