We get to choose to be in Heaven or Hell

[FitzChivalry Farseer]

Read the book of revelation in the bible, it talked about satan and hell and heaven and all

The book of revelation is where im quoting from. The book says that Christ will descend from heaven to destroy satan and create his kingdom here on earth not take us into heaven. Its true even in the most basic prayers that you have memorized like
"Holy father who are thou in heaven
Give us our daily bread . . . ."etc
We are praying for him to make the earth like heaven but not to take us into heaven. Why is that? Because anyone who truly reads the bible understands that noone is going into heaven. Sorry to break it to ya

 

[FitzChivalry Farseer]

Read the book of revelation in the bible, it talked about satan and hell and heaven and all

The book of revelation is where im quoting from. The book says that Christ will descend from heaven to destroy satan and create his kingdom here on earth not take us into heaven. Its true even in the most basic prayers that you have memorized like
"Holy father who are thou in heaven
Give us our daily bread . . . ."etc
We are praying for him to make the earth like heaven but not to take us into heaven. Why is that? Because anyone who truly reads the bible understands that noone is going into heaven. Sorry to break it to ya

 

[Filo]

The book of revelation is where im quoting from. The book says that Christ will descend from heaven to destroy satan and create his kingdom here on earth not take us into heaven. Its true even in the most basic prayers that you have memorized like
"Holy father who are thou in heaven
Give us our daily bread . . . ."etc
We are praying for him to make the earth like heaven but not to take us into heaven. Why is that? Because anyone who truly reads the bible understands that noone is going into heaven. Sorry to break it to ya

Heaven isn't some other magical place yes I agree. But I think Earth can be heaven if we hold our faith

 

[riley freeman]

Whoah going all old testament on us are ya. Well let me go New Testament on you just for kicks. Christ said not to judge for only the almighty is allowed to do that and before you throw a stone for a sin first check to see how many you yourself have commited. BOOM Christ solos

Ma bad for judging you then but still a Christian should believe in heaven and hell

 

[ChrisWolf]

Wow it took 66 replies for someone to finally mention DMT. Yes that is the answer my friend the fact that we can make it and see what happens at death shows that we can cheat at life. Never do DMT I think it might take away from the glory you experience at the moment of natural death

I Agree.

Furthermore because DMT cannot be destroyed, even with fire, that is how our soul may be cast into hell and never die. But then do we experience the physical pain in a normal way? That brings another question.

I have a very solid theory about DMT that explains my theory on who and what God really is and how he has power over us and our true purpose in this world. This also includes theories of what we call aliens, the possibility of real aliens and what we call demons and angels. This theory explains it all in perfection. It's true you may find your own reason to disagree or modify and I would be willing to listen and collaborate our thoughts but you won't find a single contradiction or impossibility within my theory.

More of your theory fits with mine than anyone elses I've ever read or heard.

 

[asad70ful]

Jesus spoke in parables he was never literal he always wanted the listeners to get to interpret his messege. Yes a person who killed his brother out of jealousy did really exist in the past! Was his name Cain? Did he kill a man named Abel? Possibly not

well , i am muslim,IN our religion,well there are different names in (arabic or urdu)QABEEL and HABEEL

well there was a man who killed his brother
both of them was brother,the first childrens of ADAM AND EVE
well QABEEL killed HABEEL
nw i dont know who is man cain,and who is abel

i just told to testify ur statement

 

[FitzChivalry Farseer]

Heaven isn't some other magical place yes I agree. But I think Earth can be heaven if we hold our faith

And it will be Oh my god you hit the nail on the head. Just as long as we hold our faith that is exactly what will happen.

 

[EnDash]

If we where robot we cant be happier cuz we wouldnt have feeling

we can program ourselves to only have one feeling, happiness. fixing by that the mistakes god made.

well tell me reason why lucifer rebeled,bcoz GOD wanted him to bow before Man,
(i dont say he was not good angel,he was)
if he was that good,why he disobeyed GOD's order?why he disobeyed?bcoz he thought his level is higher than man
y he thought that?bcoz he got free will

he had free will,thats why he disobeyed,thats why he is at war against GOD,thats why he thought that is good,and higher than man

so what GOD had done wrong?
he gave free will,so he did
dnt blame GOD

yes, he had free will and he choose his own choice, and because of that god orderd his angels to strike and beat him and kill his angel followers and eventually expelled him from heaven. he is now an object of hatred and disgust and was forced to live in the bowls of the earth just because he choose "wrong" in the eyes of god.

the way of god is not the only right and good way. why should me or lucifer or anyone be punished for the choices we made? how can i choose freely if i am afraid all the time from the wrath of god?

pointing a loaded gun in someone's face and telling them "pray or i will kill you" is not free will. it forcing someone to choose your way but making sure to always giving them the option of pain and torture and death for eternity so that they have "free will".

 

[Guardian of the Rain]

The book of revelation is where im quoting from. The book says that Christ will descend from heaven to destroy satan and create his kingdom here on earth not take us into heaven. Its true even in the most basic prayers that you have memorized like
"Holy father who are thou in heaven
Give us our daily bread . . . ."etc
We are praying for him to make the earth like heaven but not to take us into heaven. Why is that? Because anyone who truly reads the bible understands that noone is going into heaven. Sorry to break it to ya

The thing about that is that the Heaven that God (or Jesus?) will create on Earth couldn't possibly be everyone's idea of bliss and paradise. If our pesonalities/mindsets remain unchanged, then what I say is true. For example, I kid or troll you not, my ideal Heaven would be living in the Narutoverse or killing Romans, fighting for freedom alongside my idol, Spartacus.
Another thing, what the hell are already deceased people supposed to be doing then if Heaven hasn't been created here yet?

 

[Filo]

we can program ourselves to only have one feeling, happiness. fixing by that the mistakes god made.



yes, he had free will and he choose his own choice, and because of that god orderd his angels to strike and beat him and kill his angel followers and eventually expelled him from heaven. he is now an object of hatred and disgust and was forced to live in the bowls of the earth just because he choose "wrong" in the eyes of god.

the way of god is not the only right and good way. why should me or lucifer or anyone be punished for the choices we made? how can i choose freely if i am afraid all the time from the wrath of god?

pointing a loaded gun in someone's face and telling them "pray or i will kill you" is not free will. it forcing someone to choose your way but making sure to always giving them the option of pain and torture and death for eternity so that they have "free will".

Man made prayer you don't need to pray to God for forgiveness you just need to believe God exists! And what if we did program ourselves to only feel happiness? It would make happiness meaning! Being happy only means something because a lot of times there is not happiness.

Without a reference Happiness would have no meaning.

 

[riley freeman]

Just trust me when I say that my extent of uniqueness (if that's a word) is rare, and not entirely in a good way. But yeah, most people are in fact unique.
I'm forsure gonna be successful, but becoming any kind of famous is a stretch. I need fame. However, I definitely don't want it.
Fame = money = means to see all my dreams become reality.
I'll probably forget all of you. I'll never lose this side of me that loves anime though.

Nice, dont forget me tho thats if u become richer than me

 

[Filo]

The thing about that is that the Heaven that God (or Jesus?) will create on Earth couldn't possibly be everyone's idea of bliss and paradise. If our pesonalities/mindsets remain unchanged, then what I say is true. For example, I kid or troll you not, my ideal Heaven would be living in the Narutoverse or killing Romans, fighting for freedom alongside my idol, Spartacus.
Another thing, what the hell are already deceased people supposed to be doing then if Heaven hasn't been created here yet?[/QUOTE]

What I put in bold is why I believe we are all one being one soul with the illusion of individualism this would mean that all the deceased people are in heaven because they are all living new lives! We are the deceased people!

 

[riley freeman]

Jesus spoke in parables he was never literal he always wanted the listeners to get to interpret his messege. Yes a person who killed his brother out of jealousy did really exist in the past! Was his name Cain? Did he kill a man named Abel? Possibly not

Cain and Abel are as real as adam and eve

 

[EnDash]

Man made prayer you don't need to pray to God for forgiveness you just need to believe God exists! And what if we did program ourselves to only feel happiness? It would make happiness meaning! Being happy only means something because a lot of times there is not happiness.

Without a reference Happiness would have no meaning.

and what if i don't believe god exists? can i still go to heaven? or am i going to be punished and go to hell because i choose to believe that god doesnt exist?

and the fact that you need to feel sad to really feel happy is another one of god's flawed mechanics in humans. if i created men i wouldn't do that. i would make sure he can feel happy at any time without the need to feel bad beforehand. which is what i hope we are going to fix using those androids.

 

[asad70ful]

we can program ourselves to only have one feeling, happiness. fixing by that the mistakes god made.



yes, he had free will and he choose his own choice, and because of that god orderd his angels to strike and beat him and kill his angel followers and eventually expelled him from heaven. he is now an object of hatred and disgust and was forced to live in the bowls of the earth just because he choose "wrong" in the eyes of god.

the way of god is not the only right and good way. why should me or lucifer or anyone be punished for the choices we made? how can i choose freely if i am afraid all the time from the wrath of god?

pointing a loaded gun in someone's face and telling them "pray or i will kill you" is not free will. it forcing someone to choose your way but making sure to always giving them the option of pain and torture and death for eternity so that they have "free will".

well thats why GOD gave u life,do what u want in ur life,(with ur physical form)( i(GOD) will do whatever i want to do with ur spiritual form)

thats why GOD gave u life,he also gave lucifer a life immortal till judgement day,at that day he will die
then on your deeds,you shall be punished or awarded
its upto u whether u become like lucifer,or like angels(who obeys GOD)

IN YOUR LIFE U GOT FREE WILL,DO WHAT U WANT

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Reality is hell - Obito Uchiha *_*

 

[ChrisWolf]

The thing about that is that the Heaven that God (or Jesus?) will create on Earth couldn't possibly be everyone's idea of bliss and paradise. If our pesonalities/mindsets remain unchanged, then what I say is true. For example, I kid or troll you not, my ideal Heaven would be living in the Narutoverse or killing Romans, fighting for freedom alongside my idol, Spartacus.
Another thing, what the hell are already deceased people supposed to be doing then if Heaven hasn't been created here yet?[/QUOTE]


What I put in bold is why I believe we are all one being one soul with the illusion of individualism this would mean that all the deceased people are in heaven because they are all living new lives! We are the deceased people!

That's an interesting way of looking at it, I believe it to be the truth, it matches up with my own thoughts.

 

[FitzChivalry Farseer]

The thing about that is that the Heaven that God (or Jesus?) will create on Earth couldn't possibly be everyone's idea of bliss and paradise. If our pesonalities/mindsets remain unchanged, then what I say is true. For example, I kid or troll you not, my ideal Heaven would be living in the Narutoverse or killing Romans, fighting for freedom alongside my idol, Spartacus.
Another thing, what the hell are already deceased people supposed to be doing then if Heaven hasn't been created here yet?

That is unrealistic and just a childhood fantasy. My ideal heaven would be having a good meal to eat every day or just enjoying days with a wife and kids without having to deal with problems like having a job because God would provide for us. Now that is heaven

 

[riley freeman]

The book of revelation is where im quoting from. The book says that Christ will descend from heaven to destroy satan and create his kingdom here on earth not take us into heaven. Its true even in the most basic prayers that you have memorized like
"Holy father who are thou in heaven
Give us our daily bread . . . ."etc
We are praying for him to make the earth like heaven but not to take us into heaven. Why is that? Because anyone who truly reads the bible understands that noone is going into heaven. Sorry to break it to ya

Then what about the rapture that revelation talked about??
after the rapture we the Christian will ascend to heaven so i'm right

 

[Filo]

Reality is hell - Obito Uchiha *_*

And why is reality hell? Because he doesn't have faith and he has no love that's why he said he feels no pain