We get to choose to be in Heaven or Hell

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Man made prayer you don't need to pray to God for forgiveness you just need to believe God exists! And what if we did program ourselves to only feel happiness? It would make happiness meaning! Being happy only means something because a lot of times there is not happiness.

Without a reference Happiness would have no meaning.

well thats why we made prayers for spiritual happiness,if u dont get the happiness(spiritually) thats ok,you can have physcal
thats ok,bcoz u are believing in GOD,and he will award u on believing him

and what if i don't believe god exists? can i still go to heaven? or am i going to be punished and go to hell because i choose to believe that god doesnt exist?

and the fact that you need to feel sad to really feel happy is another one of god's flawed mechanics in humans. if i created men i wouldn't do that. i would make sure he can feel happy at any time without the need to feel bad beforehand. which is what i hope we are going to fix using those androids.
1st well dont believe its your free will,we cant stop u like this,nor by anyother way

2nd you cant create man,nor anyother life,so quit it :p
 
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well thats why we made prayers for spiritual happiness,if u dont get the happiness(spiritually) thats ok,you can have physcal
thats ok,bcoz u are believing in GOD,and he will award u on believing him

The only thing I want to point out is you calling God "he" try to refrain from doing this. If God is perfect God is genderless. Because gender implies you are only 1/2 of a pair
 

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Nice, dont forget me tho thats if u become richer than me
"if"? Pshh. Just kidding. I don't know you. You could be a genius--despite your lack of proper grammar--or some really gifted guy for all I know. Let's just both try to be successful, eh? Though are definition of success are sure to be different.
The thing about that is that the Heaven that God (or Jesus?) will create on Earth couldn't possibly be everyone's idea of bliss and paradise. If our pesonalities/mindsets remain unchanged, then what I say is true. For example, I kid or troll you not, my ideal Heaven would be living in the Narutoverse or killing Romans, fighting for freedom alongside my idol, Spartacus.
Another thing, what the hell are already deceased people supposed to be doing then if Heaven hasn't been created here yet?[/QUOTE]

What I put in bold is why I believe we are all one being one soul with the illusion of individualism this would mean that all the deceased people are in heaven because they are all living new lives! We are the deceased people!

Sorry, but dafuq? Maybe what you say makes sense and I'm just and an idiot.
 

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well , i am muslim,IN our religion,well there are different names in (arabic or urdu)QABEEL and HABEEL

well there was a man who killed his brother
both of them was brother,the first childrens of ADAM AND EVE
well QABEEL killed HABEEL
nw i dont know who is man cain,and who is abel

i just told to testify ur statement

Muslims r descendant of Jacob first son while Christian r descendant of his second son that's why the quran and the bible are so similar
 

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And why is reality hell? Because he doesn't have faith and he has no love that's why he said he feels no pain

he believes reality is hell because his girlfriend died. and he is not wrong, god allowed his girlfriend to die and by that allowed obito to suffer. reality is hell and god is hell's ruler satan.

well thats why GOD gave u life,do what u want in ur life,(with ur physical form)( i(GOD) will do whatever i want to do with ur spiritual form)

thats why GOD gave u life,he also gave lucifer a life immortal till judgement day,at that day he will die
then on your deeds,you shall be punished or awarded
its upto u whether u become like lucifer,or like angels(who obeys GOD)

IN YOUR LIFE U GOT FREE WILL,DO WHAT U WANT

i want to masturbate and have *** and never marry, and when judgment day come i want to go to heaven. if i am not allowed to go to heaven and must go to suffer in hell because of my choice then is it really my choice? or was someone forcing me to choose something that i don't want to choose?
 

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Who cares dude,just relax....
If you believe in the concept of GOD,then you will appose it,but if you scientifically think about it,it will be a huge success.....
Anyway,I don't want to sleep for centuries to come back again,because that will ruin my hard work of life I done on TIME,which will be meaningless....
 

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The only thing I want to point out is you calling God "he" try to refrain from doing this. If God is perfect God is genderless. Because gender implies you are only 1/2 of a pair

Then why did he choose to come down as a man? Or maybe that holds no significance. He needed to choose one (male or female) in order to become like us so he could relate?

Anything different from male and female wouldn't be relatable since we've never seen that
 

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he believes reality is hell because his girlfriend died. and he is not wrong, god allowed his girlfriend to die and by that allowed obito to suffer. reality is hell and god is hell's ruler satan.



i want to masturbate and have *** and never marry, and when judgment day come i want to go to heaven. if i am not allowed to go to heaven and must go to suffer in hell because of my choice then is it really my choice? or was someone forcing me to choose something that i don't want to choose?

God allowed Obito to suffer. Yes. This is because suffering must accompany happiness. Without a reference happiness is meaningless that is why sadness must happen. If Obito just moved on he could've found someone else to love. No matter what if we have infinite lives that makes the game of life FAIR
 

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That is unrealistic and just a childhood fantasy. My ideal heaven would be having a good meal to eat every day or just enjoying days with a wife and kids without having to deal with problems like having a job because God would provide for us. Now that is heaven

How is that unrealistic if were discussing God, Heaven, and souls? I believe God can make anything possible; he can conjure up anything. Well, you and I are obviously different. I want to puke at the thought of living such an ordinary life where I'm a husband with a wife and kid(s). That is your Heaven.
 

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The only thing I want to point out is you calling God "he" try to refrain from doing this. If God is perfect God is genderless. Because gender implies you are only 1/2 of a pair

sorry,my mistake
actually english is not my first lanugage its 3rd :)
so what word should i use instead of "HE"
 

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Then what about the rapture that revelation talked about??
after the rapture we the Christian will ascend to heaven so i'm right

The only safe haven in the world during the rapture would be in Jerusalem after the war is over. Thats where the new kingdom will be established
 

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Then why did he choose to come down as a man? Or maybe that holds no significance. He needed to choose one (male or female) in order to become like us so he could relate?
Anything different from male and female wouldn't be relatable since we've never seen that


Yes I agree! In order for God to become imperfect like us God needed to choose a gender. Male is the obvious because of no pregnancy. Jesus deliberately chose not to have children where as if God came down as a woman you never know what could've happened
 

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The only thing I want to point out is you calling God "he" try to refrain from doing this. If God is perfect God is genderless. Because gender implies you are only 1/2 of a pair

Well, God is genderless according to Catholic Theology (I myself am Catholic) the male reference is more on tradition and symbolism because of the patriarchy in Judaism.
 

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sorry,my mistake
actually english is not my first lanugage its 3rd :)
so what word should i use instead of "HE"

Wow you are very smart to learn so many languages! Great job! And I can't give you an answer besides God. English is my first language and I find it hard myself to not call God a "he'
 

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Then why did he choose to come down as a man? Or maybe that holds no significance. He needed to choose one (male or female) in order to become like us so he could relate?

Anything different from male and female wouldn't be relatable since we've never seen that

God is a man, thats why in the bible it says he created man in his image then man was lonely so he made a woman
 

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God allowed Obito to suffer. Yes. This is because suffering must accompany happiness. Without a reference happiness is meaningless that is why sadness must happen. If Obito just moved on he could've found someone else to love. No matter what if we have infinite lives that makes the game of life FAIR

suffering is never fair, it's painful and terrible and makes us cry and hate and kill (like obito is doing). if obito ever murdered or tortured anyone it is god's fault, because god allowed him to suffer.

if god erased suffering and pain, and fixed this stupid idea that you need to feel bad as a reference for feeling good so that we can feel good just by wanting too, then i will follow god. but if he keeps make people suffer and starve and die just so that when we feel good we will thank the bastard for helping us i will be against him until he choose to kill me. every bad feeling, every suffering is god's doing, god didn't just create the good parts, he also created the bad parts. he created satan and he create obito and he create murdereres and tortures and starving children in africa. he deserve no respect from anyone.
 

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Yes I agree! In order for God to become imperfect like us God needed to choose a gender. Male is the obvious because of no pregnancy. Jesus deliberately chose not to have children where as if God came down as a woman you never know what could've happened

Not only that but Males were accepted more as leaders back then, and even now. So in order to gain any followers he chose a man.
 

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How is that unrealistic if were discussing God, Heaven, and souls? I believe God can make anything possible; he can conjure up anything. Well, you and I are obviously different. I want to puke at the thought of living such an ordinary life where I'm a husband with a wife and kid(s). That is your Heaven.

Yes it is my heaven and eventually in time you will learn that that is all you need. He is not gonna create chakra for you to make your ninjutsu. He isnot gonna give you sharingan eyes. When Naruto ends and youd have grown up youll quickly reasses your priorities
 

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How is that unrealistic if were discussing God, Heaven, and souls? I believe God can make anything possible; he can conjure up anything. Well, you and I are obviously different. I want to puke at the thought of living such an ordinary life where I'm a husband with a wife and kid(s). That is your Heaven.

Yes it is my heaven and eventually in time you will learn that that is all you need. He is not gonna create chakra for you to make your ninjutsu. He isnot gonna give you sharingan eyes. When Naruto ends and youd have grown up youll quickly reasses your priorities
 

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suffering is never fair, it's painful and terrible and makes us cry and hate and kill (like obito is doing). if obito ever murdered or tortured anyone it is god's fault, because god allowed him to suffer.

if god erased suffering and pain, and fixed this stupid idea that you need to feel bad as a reference for feeling good so that we can feel good just by wanting too, then i will follow god. but if he keeps make people suffer and starve and die just so that when we feel good we will thank the bastard for helping us i will be against him until he choose to kill me. every bad feeling, every suffering is god's doing, god didn't just create the good parts, he also created the bad parts. he created satan and he create obito and he create murdereres and tortures and starving children in africa. he deserve no respect from anyone.

Your missing the ultimate point! All that suffering is okay as long as the lives that suffer and die are reborn endlessly! Then it just means all that pain was a great way to pass the time in an infinite existence
 
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