We get to choose to be in Heaven or Hell

[FitzChivalry Farseer]

You aint a Christian you just go to church, and why go to church if you dont even believe heaven and earth?

Please allow me to explain myself, I dont believe that were gonna go to either because its never mentioned in the bible. Hell truly is an imaginary place that priests use to scare ppl straight but Jesus Christ never needs to use it. Heaven is real but only for the almighty because when Christ comes back hell make earth his kingdom NOT that were gonna go to heaven. See thats why I dont worry about either

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

This post of yours has given me a headache. Does that mean I'm stupid, or is it complicated for even intelligent people?

Well, it's not really easy to understand, it involves familiarity with classical mechanics, quantum mechanics (specifically wave function collapse) and computer science.

 

[riley freeman]

Don't get upset this isn't about taking sides it is just a simple discussion where everyone has their own opinions
I think that we still exist because eternity is really boring without life. I'm just trying to figure everything out.

I don't think God would make life unless it was completely fair. When you look at death it seems life is unfair but if we are all the same soul and our individual bodies give us the illusion of individualism then dying and coming back as a new different life form would make life fair.

Ok, but we have different soul,cain and abel(adam and eve sons) proved that and since then the generation of cain were cursed

 

[Filo]

It's funny though, scientists and hardcore reductionists are so determined to explain what consciousness is because its mystery gives credence to the theological argument that the domain of consciousness is in the spiritual realm. *_*

I love every single one of your posts dude. I really can't wait to see the rest of our generations lifespan play out. There is a chance that we could be one of the last generations if technology keeps advancing as Moore's law states "the number of transistors on integrated circuits doubles approximately every two years." That is of course if this android thing actually plays out

 

[riley freeman]

This post of yours has given me a headache. Does that mean I'm stupid, or is it complicated for even intelligent people?

My future occupies most of my thoughts. I call myself a "future enthusiast". That's until I find myself living in a present that I am pleased with and feel fulfilled. You shouldn't judge anyone, let alone a one-of-a-kind guy like me. And I'm not being cocky when I say that. It's a burden to be as unique as I am. I will never find the family of friends I dream for because of my characteristics. Instead, I will have success. That's for certain.
I'm not a simple teenager; having *** is on the bottom on my to-do list. Would I like to? Yes. Do I stress about it, and make it a mission to lose my virginity? No. Dafuq you think this is? Superbad, *** Drive, or Party X? That's petty.

Every one is unique in a way, in future if you really become what you dont forget about riley freeman because i'm going ask of you...and yeah i thought you had a superbad, sexdrive, or party

 

[ChrisWolf]

It's funny though, scientists and hardcore reductionists are so determined to explain what consciousness is because its mystery gives credence to the theological argument that the domain of consciousness is in the spiritual realm. *_*

I believe half of it is in the spiritual realm and half is in the physical realm.

The spiritual half is called the mind or soul(or DMT as a substance possibly, but that relates to another theory I've been having that's higher level thinking than this so lets stick to this for now) and the physical is called the brain. That's where physical actions can be taken and pain/pleasure can be felt to direct our decisions healthily.

 

[asad70ful]

The problem of immortality is just as you said you wil eventually get stuck somewhere. If we all have the ability to die we can never be stuck. But if we were all immortal androids what happens when you get stuck somewhere and cant die?

yes
just think about a scenario
you are android,you are being caught by your enemy or other country miltary
they torture you mentally(bcoz physically u wont sense,cz u r androids) for a thousands years,and you just want to die there,bcoz u want to end this torture,while you cant

what does it feel like
and just imagine if feel things then the torture would be a lot more diffcult to tolerate

that is what life for
immortality is only for GOD
and the One for who he wants to give

science havent even seen a soul,how is science trying to capture it in synthetic body?
as person said above some scientist try to get money from investors thats all

 

[EnDash]

It we didnt have emotions we would be robots and God set rules so that their would be order
and *** is good if you're married,so if you *** hungry get a wife

if we were robots we would be happier and feel better then humans with emotions and hunger that can't be satisfied don't you think? thats why god created us humans in a flawed and wrong way.

and what if i don't want to get married? what if i don't want a wife? just the *** god gave me with noting else? i have the right of free will why can't i choose that? what about gays, they have *** drive in a diffrent way then that of god, why should they suffer just because god made them diffrent?

lol this is by far the most edgiest thing i have seen in my entire life. Atheism is one thing, but siding with Satan?

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reddit or 4chan doesn't even come close to this. 10/10 be careful not to cut yourself with that edge m8

I can't even reply properly to the op now... Sorry OP I wish I could have added to this discussion but this post caught me completely off guard.

consider the source telling you satan is evil and wrong and god is good and beutiful. ofcourse god would not say satan has the right of free will and can choose whatever he wants right? he instead will call him a demon and an evil creature that must be humiliated and struck away.

most people don't know this but satan was an angel of god, one of god's servents and a creation of his. some sources claim he was the most beautiful creation of god and the most fair of all the angels. it's god's fault that lucifer rebeled, he literaly gave him no choice in the matter. do as i say or i will expell you from heaven. where is the justice in that?

 

[Guardian of the Rain]

Well, it's not really easy to understand, it involves familiarity with classical mechanics, quantum mechanics (specifically wave function collapse) and computer science.

Oh. I totally understand all that stuff. Easy peasy.
I kid, of course. I'll let people like you handle matters concerning all that. I'll make myself useful with the talent I have: writing. Yeah, it's a boring talent, but it's something. My brain isn't capable of even learning sciences of those sorts.

Just have to hit the books harder and you will no longer have trouble with some words..

I read...a lot, thank you very much. Just finished Eragon some days ago.

 

[riley freeman]

Please allow me to explain myself, I dont believe that were gonna go to either because its never mentioned in the bible. Hell truly is an imaginary place that priests use to scare ppl straight but Jesus Christ never needs to use it. Heaven is real but only for the almighty because when Christ comes back hell make earth his kingdom NOT that were gonna go to heaven. See thats why I dont worry about either

Read the book of revelation in the bible, it talked about satan and hell and heaven and all

 

[Filo]

Ok, but we have different soul,cain and abel(adam and eve sons) proved that and since then the generation of cain were cursed

The thing you have to look at is not the actual stories in the bible but the lesson they tend to provide. Cain and Abel never existed as people but someone in ancient history definitely got jealous of his brother and killed him. I believe the bible offers lessons but is not literally accurate as far as some of the names go

 

[FitzChivalry Farseer]

Ok, but we have different soul,cain and abel(adam and eve sons) proved that and since then the generation of cain were cursed

Whoah going all old testament on us are ya. Well let me go New Testament on you just for kicks. Christ said not to judge for only the almighty is allowed to do that and before you throw a stone for a sin first check to see how many you yourself have commited. BOOM Christ solos

 

[FitzChivalry Farseer]

Ok, but we have different soul,cain and abel(adam and eve sons) proved that and since then the generation of cain were cursed

Whoah going all old testament on us are ya. Well let me go New Testament on you just for kicks. Christ said not to judge for only the almighty is allowed to do that and before you throw a stone for a sin first check to see how many you yourself have commited. BOOM Christ solos

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

I believe half of it is in the spiritual realm and half is in the physical realm.

The spiritual half is called the mind or soul(or DMT as a substance possibly, but that relates to another theory I've been having that's higher level thinking than this so lets stick to this for now) and the physical is called the brain. That's where physical actions can be taken and pain/pleasure can be felt to direct our decisions healthily.

Then you share similitude with Descartes' Philosophy of Mind-Body Dualism.

 

[riley freeman]

if we were robots we would be happier and feel better then humans with emotions and hunger that can't be satisfied don't you think? thats why god created us humans in a flawed and wrong way.

and what if i don't want to get married? what if i don't want a wife? just the *** god gave me with noting else? i have the right of free will why can't i choose that? what about gays, they have *** drive in a diffrent way then that of god, why should they suffer just because god made them diffrent?



consider the source telling you satan is evil and wrong and god is good and beutiful. ofcourse god would not say satan has the right of free will and can choose whatever he wants right? he instead will call him a demon and an evil creature that must be humiliated and struck away.

most people don't know this but satan was an angel of god, one of god's servents and a creation of his. some sources claim he was the most beautiful creation of god and the most fair of all the angels. it's god's fault that lucifer rebeled, he literaly gave him no choice in the matter. do as i say or i will expell you from heaven. where is the justice in that?

If we where robot we cant be happier cuz we wouldnt have feeling

 

[Filo]

I believe half of it is in the spiritual realm and half is in the physical realm.

The spiritual half is called the mind or soul(or DMT as a substance possibly, but that relates to another theory I've been having that's higher level thinking than this so lets stick to this for now) and the physical is called the brain. That's where physical actions can be taken and pain/pleasure can be felt to direct our decisions healthily.

Wow it took 66 replies for someone to finally mention DMT. Yes that is the answer my friend the fact that we can make it and see what happens at death shows that we can cheat at life. Never do DMT I think it might take away from the glory you experience at the moment of natural death

 

[asad70ful]

if we were robots we would be happier and feel better then humans with emotions and hunger that can't be satisfied don't you think? thats why god created us humans in a flawed and wrong way.

and what if i don't want to get married? what if i don't want a wife? just the *** god gave me with noting else? i have the right of free will why can't i choose that? what about gays, they have *** drive in a diffrent way then that of god, why should they suffer just because god made them diffrent?






consider the source telling you satan is evil and wrong and god is good and beutiful. ofcourse god would not say satan has the right of free will and can choose whatever he wants right? he instead will call him a demon and an evil creature that must be humiliated and struck away.

most people don't know this but satan was an angel of god, one of god's servents and a creation of his. some sources claim he was the most beautiful creation of god and the most fair of all the angels. it's god's fault that lucifer rebeled, he literaly gave him no choice in the matter. do as i say or i will expell you from heaven. where is the justice in that?

well tell me reason why lucifer rebeled,bcoz GOD wanted him to bow before Man,
(i dont say he was not good angel,he was)
if he was that good,why he disobeyed GOD's order?why he disobeyed?bcoz he thought his level is higher than man
y he thought that?bcoz he got free will

he had free will,thats why he disobeyed,thats why he is at war against GOD,thats why he thought that is good,and higher than man

so what GOD had done wrong?
he gave free will,so he did
dnt blame GOD

 

[riley freeman]

The thing you have to look at is not the actual stories in the bible but the lesson they tend to provide. Cain and Abel never existed as people but someone in ancient history definitely got jealous of his brother and killed him. I believe the bible offers lessons but is not literally accurate as far as some of the names go

Jesus told stories about them so they have to be real

 

[Guardian of the Rain]

Every one is unique in a way, in future if you really become what you dont forget about riley freeman because i'm going ask of you...and yeah i thought you had a superbad, sexdrive, or party

Just trust me when I say that my extent of uniqueness (if that's a word) is rare, and not entirely in a good way. But yeah, most people are in fact unique.
I'm forsure gonna be successful, but becoming any kind of famous is a stretch. I need fame. However, I definitely don't want it.
Fame = money = means to see all my dreams become reality.
I'll probably forget all of you. I'll never lose this side of me that loves anime though.

 

[Filo]

Jesus told stories about them so they have to be real

Jesus spoke in parables he was never literal he always wanted the listeners to get to interpret his messege. Yes a person who killed his brother out of jealousy did really exist in the past! Was his name Cain? Did he kill a man named Abel? Possibly not