We get to choose to be in Heaven or Hell

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Do you ever think about life or you just stay in your dream world all day?
LMAO my dreams and goals are greater than you could ever imagine or fathom. This idle, meaningless phase of my life ends in less than a month. I'm just killing time in the meanwhile.
This is another big point! When humans existed in their prime before establishments arised I bet we didn't need to masturbate a lot when we could just find a sexual partner. As technology advances you realize everything is easier if you just

Play with yourself

That has many meanings! If life is a game and the point of the game is to experience what its like to be imperfect then being able to make yourself orgasm is a deliberate decision to avoid playing the game of finding a mate for *** to create new life! Same things with drugs! Heroin is love in a needle it releases dopamine just like laughing does obviously in a much more potent way. Drugs also allow you to completely isolate yourself from experiencing life
Hey, man. Masturbation is healthy, pleasing, and convenient. :cool:
And about the other post. My ideal Heaven involves violence, so I think that I will be disappointed to figure out that I can't live it.
 
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I like this theory....it goes along with a lot of my own theories quite well actually. But I'm not I quite convinced yet because in order for a human to accomplish this feat he would have to gain control over a soul and that's something I believe may be impossible for man. Man takes care of the physical things and God takes care of the spiritual. It's a 50\50 relationship. That's the point, that's the whole test right there.

God decides what to do with your soul based off what you decide to do with your body.

I like your point but I think that we are all one being. We don't have individual souls. God doesn't know if it is good or evil. God always worries when life evolves to the human species trying to decide if life is good or evil. God tricks its own consciousness into thinking there are many people and many souls to allow for a non-biased judgement on creation.
 

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You might want to read Roger Penrose's book "The Emperor's Mind" it's a very insightful book detailing the questions regarding consciousness. Ultimately I agree with him that the human consciousness is practically impossible to be emulated by computers because of its non-algorithmic nature. And that the mystery of consciousness lays in the unseen realms of Quantum Mechanics.
 

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LMAO my dreams and goals are greater than you could ever imagine or fathom. This idle, meaningless phase of my life ends in less than a month. I'm just killing time in the meanwhile.

Hey, man. Masturbation is healthy, pleasing, and convenient. :cool:
And about the other post. My idle Heaven involves violence, so I think that I will be disappointed to figure out that I can't live it.

You have dreams and goals that i cant imagine?ok but dont you ever think about life???
and masturbation isnt healthy, its better if you just had *** with someone than with yourself
 

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Dont say that bro,thats all kinds of messed up

What I was trying to imply is that satan doesn't exist if nobody believes in satan. Evil doesn't
exist if nobody thinks death is even.

I just think that God would get bored being perfect for eternity so that's why God creates life and gets to play the ultimate game through which evolution eventually produces a being smart enough to realize it is alive. Our consciousness is God finally being inserted into the game God made.

This would make life perfect! Life is fair if an infinite amount of new lives are possible
 

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Consciousness is a very mysterious thing, not even the most learned philosopher or scientist can give us a definitive answer, the search for its true meaning and nature rivals (and I even dare say exceeds) that of the physicist's desire to unify relativity with quantum mechanics (aka Quantum Gravity)
 

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God gave us free will and we're using it for the wrong thing and you're blame God?

god gave us free will. but he also gave us emotions and desires but created these absurd laws that tell us we need to fight them.

god gave us as the desire for *** and masturbation but doesn't allow us to have them the way we want, the way our free will decide. we can only have *** in the way god choose.
god gave us desire for food and drink, but again ask us to fast for him and starve ourselves.
god gave us life and ask us to not live, he gave us too many things that he doesn't allow us to experience and all for what? so in the end he again can choose if we go to hell or heaven? this is injustice by any ideal.
 

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I like your point but I think that we are all one being. We don't have individual souls. God doesn't know if it is good or evil. God always worries when life evolves to the human species trying to decide if life is good or evil. God tricks its own consciousness into thinking there are many people and many souls to allow for a non-biased judgement on creation.

I was on your side till you posted this:erm: if God does know it he's good or evil how come we still exist? God is good thats why he created the world while satan was once an angel until he became jealous of God, they r different beings
 

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I like your point but I think that we are all one being. We don't have individual souls. God doesn't know if it is good or evil. God always worries when life evolves to the human species trying to decide if life is good or evil. God tricks its own consciousness into thinking there are many people and many souls to allow for a non-biased judgement on creation.

No I'm not so sure about us being one being....I think we are separate souls that are meant to come together as one but we are seperated by physical bodies at the moment. God has to test all us individual parts to see which ones of use will work well together and which ones won't in a sense.
 

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Consciousness is a very mysterious thing, not even the most learned philosopher or scientist can give us a definitive answer, the search for its true meaning and nature rivals (and I even dare say exceeds) that of the physicist's desire to unify relativity with quantum mechanics (aka Quantum Gravity)

I believe that at some point in time the answer will become very apparent.
Once the answer is learned we will see that ignorance of the ultimate
answer was truly bliss and wish to go back to that time.
 

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To be honest your signature is what made me stop and think to make this thread. Never heard of that movie though

Childhood is the best because it is disillusioning! You never think about dying you shouldn't have to as a child because you have so much time! You essentially believe you live forever and that's all that counts! Childhood is what life is all about for all species!

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nice thread
and i agree 100% to your thread

well as a matter of fact i dont think that androids will exist bco, 2045 u say?
well before that i think a World War III would effect world and noone would think of making androids(well am more like magneto)(jk)
science havent is not very advance yet,science got other problems to deal with(hunger,water,global warming)
it didnt succeeded in that thing,and now it see a dream of making androids

science!huh! which claims immortal life?
well it didnt gave us antidode or a medicine to cure cancer,aids(much more) and it claims it will give life?forget it

and even if does...............(as 1 stated above)..........life will be boring
it would be like u wish immortality from shenron,then you are caught and u r in jail from which u cant come out(no matter if u can defeat bills)

androids will also be jail for us
 

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god gave us free will. but he also gave us emotions and desires but created these absurd laws that tell us we need to fight them.

god gave us as the desire for *** and masturbation but doesn't allow us to have them the way we want, the way our free will decide. we can only have *** in the way god choose.
god gave us desire for food and drink, but again ask us to fast for him and starve ourselves.
god gave us life and ask us to not live, he gave us too many things that he doesn't allow us to experience and all for what? so in the end he again can choose if we go to hell or heaven? this is injustice by any ideal.

It we didnt have emotions we would be robots and God set rules so that their would be order
and *** is good if you're married,so if you *** hungry get a wife
 

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I was on your side till you posted this:erm: if God does know it he's good or evil how come we still exist? God is good thats why he created the world while satan was once an angel until he became jealous of God, they r different beings

Don't get upset this isn't about taking sides it is just a simple discussion where everyone has their own opinions :)
I think that we still exist because eternity is really boring without life. I'm just trying to figure everything out.

I don't think God would make life unless it was completely fair. When you look at death it seems life is unfair but if we are all the same soul and our individual bodies give us the illusion of individualism then dying and coming back as a new different life form would make life fair.
 

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i think god is wrong, he may have created heaven, hell and earth and all life but he is still wrong in my opinion. not to say that i could have done a better job, it's easy to point out mistakes and problems after something is created, but is it that easy before something is created? like the question, can you imagine a new color? can you create an animal that will be perfect without any reference or basis to work from? out of pure nothing?

still, god should be blamed for all the mistakes he did, i believe in satan (not the sataing church which is stupid). satan or lucifer rebeled against god when god created humans because god asked all his angels to bow before men. lucifer refused and went into war against god. i would support lucifer's cause because it is just, we all deserve free will, if lucifer want to hate all of us men then he must have the right to do so, even if god think's it wrong. if god gives us the free will to choose between heaven or hell is it really free will? can i choose to become an android and die when i decide and still go to heaven? because if god thinks that i need to die when he decide to go to heaven then i refuse to accept him.

god is a tyrant, a totalitarian dictator that thinks he knows best for all of us. but he is wrong.
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lol this is by far the most edgiest thing i have seen in my entire life. Atheism is one thing, but siding with Satan?

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reddit or 4chan doesn't even come close to this. 10/10 be careful not to cut yourself with that edge m8

I can't even reply properly to the op now... Sorry OP I wish I could have added to this discussion but this post caught me completely off guard.
 
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nice thread
and i agree 100% to your thread

well as a matter of fact i dont think that androids will exist bco, 2045 u say?
well before that i think a World War III would effect world and noone would think of making androids(well am more like magneto)(jk)
science havent is not very advance yet,science got other problems to deal with(hunger,water,global warming)
it didnt succeeded in that thing,and now it see a dream of making androids

science!huh! which claims immortal life?
well it didnt gave us antidode or a medicine to cure cancer,aids(much more) and it claims it will give life?forget it

and even if does...............(as 1 stated above)..........life will be boring
it would be like u wish immortality from shenron,then you are caught and u r in jail from which u cant come out(no matter if u can defeat bills)

androids will also be jail for us

The problem of immortality is just as you said you wil eventually get stuck somewhere. If we all have the ability to die we can never be stuck. But if we were all immortal androids what happens when you get stuck somewhere and cant die?
 

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You might want to read Roger Penrose's book "The Emperor's Mind" it's a very insightful book detailing the questions regarding consciousness. Ultimately I agree with him that the human consciousness is practically impossible to be emulated by computers because of its non-algorithmic nature. And that the mystery of consciousness lays in the unseen realms of Quantum Mechanics.
This post of yours has given me a headache. Does that mean I'm stupid, or is it complicated for even intelligent people?
You have dreams and goals that i cant imagine?ok but dont you ever think about life???
and masturbation isnt healthy, its better if you just had *** with someone than with yourself
My future occupies most of my thoughts. I call myself a "future enthusiast". That's until I find myself living in a present that I am pleased with and feel fulfilled. You shouldn't judge anyone, let alone a one-of-a-kind guy like me. And I'm not being cocky when I say that. It's a burden to be as unique as I am. I will never find the family of friends I dream for because of my characteristics. Instead, I will have success. That's for certain.
I'm not a simple teenager; having *** is on the bottom on my to-do list. Would I like to? Yes. Do I stress about it, and make it a mission to lose my virginity? No. Dafuq you think this is? Superbad, *** Drive, or Party X? That's petty.
 

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I believe that at some point in time the answer will become very apparent.
Once the answer is learned we will see that ignorance of the ultimate
answer was truly bliss and wish to go back to that time.

It's funny though, scientists and hardcore reductionists are so determined to explain what consciousness is because its mystery gives credence to the theological argument that the domain of consciousness is in the spiritual realm. *_*
 

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This post of yours has given me a headache. Does that mean I'm stupid, or is it complicated for even intelligent people?

My future occupies most of my thoughts. I call myself a "future enthusiast". That's until I find myself living in a present that I am pleased with and feel fulfilled. You shouldn't judge anyone, let alone a one-of-a-kind guy like me. And I'm not being cocky when I say that. It's a burden to be as unique as I am. I will never find the family of friends I dream for because of my characteristics. Instead, I will have success. That's for certain.
I'm not a simple teenager; having *** is on the bottom on my to-do list. Would I like to? Yes. Do I stress about it, and make it a mission to lose my virginity? No. Dafuq you think this is? Superbad, *** Drive, or Party X? That's petty.

Just have to hit the books harder and you will no longer have trouble with some words..:p
 
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