was the fight against kabuto a plote hole ?

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kabuto stated no genjutsu will work on him

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izanami is a genjustu right ?
 
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It's an asspull genjutsu because kabuto was pretty much unbeatable at that point, because itachi had to control him, and not kill.
 

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lol it was just an excuse to make sasuke look ok next to itachi and give him a reason to be forgiven by the alliance. it was a terrible fight IMO
 

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Not a plothole, Izanami hits you mentally. NO eye:hint: contact needed. Plus in any anime when there is a Izanagi expect Izanami and vice versa. They are always together no matter what.
 

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well.... it doesnt need eye contact and that is how most genjutsu is started but since it uses the senses and Kabuto had heightened senses it worked faster on him
 

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Izanami was a just a plot device.

Jutsu created out of nowhere, because it was convenient way to beat Kabuto. Nothing more.

You'll never see it again.
 

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Not a plothole, Izanami hits you mentally. NO eye:hint: contact needed. Plus in any anime when there is a Izanagi expect Izanami and vice versa. They are always together no matter what.

nah its not an plot hole but an asspull. expecting izanami wherever izanagi is is stupid and doesn't even make sense. how can you go mad with power if you can only use the ability twice at max... and why would you make a counter for it if they still lose an eye and you lose one too.
 

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It was definately plot hole. Kabuto techniqually killed itachi about 3 times but edo tensei kept him alive.
 

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Izanami was a just a plot device.

Jutsu created out of nowhere, because it was convenient way to beat Kabuto. Nothing more.

You'll never see it again.

I agree, I never liked it as well, made Itachi look like a Mary Sue as well to me at that point.
 

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Not a plothole, Izanami hits you mentally. NO eye:hint: contact needed. Plus in any anime when there is a Izanagi expect Izanami and vice versa. They are always together no matter what.
A genjutsu doesn't mean only with eye contact. (While I get your implication that in itachi's case it does, in actuality sharingan genjutsu are doujutsu)
 

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after acquiring all the powers Kabuto understood and accepted one statement, "I m an a$$"
 

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Am I the only one that cannot read that scan? Lol
 

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Izanami was a just a plot device.

Jutsu created out of nowhere, because it was convenient way to beat Kabuto. Nothing more.

You'll never see it again.
i see it as a plot device too
 

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Izanami was clearly explained and had a basis is shinto religion as well as a connection to izanagi. It was the furthest thing from an asspull. Don't be upset because Itachi and Sasuke were the ones to win their battle.
 

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nah its not an plot hole but an asspull. expecting izanami wherever izanagi is is stupid and doesn't even make sense. how can you go mad with power if you can only use the ability twice at max... and why would you make a counter for it if they still lose an eye and you lose one too.

Actually it does make sense about the whole Izanami and Izanagi thing, but whatever. Yeah, the situation was convenient, but then again how many other fights had convenient justu's used in them at the certain moment needed? It really isn't a plothole though. People need to go look that word honestly :vincent: it didn't contradict the plot at all.
 

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Kabuto was immune to auditory and visually stimulated genjustu due to his body being able to take in vibrations and his eyes cornea being blocked out.

Izanami bypasses all sense in exchange for the eye its a kinjustu not a genjustu and therefore not a plot hole

A plot device but,not a plot hole
 

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Izanami was a just a plot device.

Jutsu created out of nowhere, because it was convenient way to beat Kabuto. Nothing more.

You'll never see it again.

This is correct, but hey at least it was better for kabuto to lose like this instead of him being used to show off sasuke's EMS but it was still a plot device and we most likely will never see it again.

I agree, I never liked it as well, made Itachi look like a Mary Sue as well to me at that point.

He already was one before that, kishi really loves the guy.
 

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Izanami was clearly explained and had a basis is shinto religion as well as a connection to izanagi. It was the furthest thing from an asspull. Don't be upset because Itachi and Sasuke were the ones to win their battle.

^^^ people use this piece of shit excuse to try and justify the asspull that is izanami. the purpose of izanami doesn't even make sense.. its made to counter izanagi but izanagi can do nothing but bring you back to life at the cost of an eye... why would you need a counter for something so unnecessary that also costs you an eye..? how can one even go made with power with izanagi you can only use it twice at most.. the **** does it need a counter for beside by the time you finish preparing izanami they already lost an eye xD
 
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