Was Orochimaru or Obito Better At Manipulating People?

Frois

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Obito and Orochimaru weren't truly that good of manipulators. Unfortunately for Orochimaru, he may have intelligence but that doesn't stop his ass from being off putting with his jutsu and movements.

People seemed to buy Obito's shit, but he was extremely suspicious. I think that either 1), others believed him for plot convenience or 2), it didn't really matter to them if Obito was who he said he was.
 

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Did you guys forget Obito was about to convince Naruto to come to his side when Neji died? If Hinata didn't slap Naruto , Naruto could have joined Obito or at least gave up . So Obito is better
 

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Sasuke let Orochimaru believe he was manipulating him. He just needed to become stronger, which Konoha couldn't have offered him. Konoha was weakening Sasuke, so he left.

And when Sasuke got to the point where he wanted to be: He trolled Orochimaru and neg diffed him like his brother, Itachi, did
 

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Obito easily, he's been controlling the mist village for years, manipulated Nagato and other members of Akatsuki. He broke Naruto when no one else could, he fked Itachi's plans and turned Sasuke against Leaf village and baited him to go to kage summit which was a clear death trap. He led the events of the entire Narutoverse by nine tails attack and Uchiha massacre. Played them like a fiddle.
 
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