Was Fugaku strong?

Zee U

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Mar 16, 2014
Messages
1,475
Reaction score
165
Weaker than Itachi, but stronger than the other members of the Uchiha clan at that time.
 

Shanks

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Oct 19, 2014
Messages
6,015
Reaction score
1,962
Shisui and Obito are from the same generation

Yes .. there could be more people .Itachi did massacre all of them so no proof that they were the only persson .. He mentioned two people still alive have MS not the only people who awakened them..

Also Fugaku avoided the topic of MS to sasuke he said Sasuke will learn it later . Whether MS has certain training for Uchiha to get it there is no clue to this.
 

IndraGripen

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Mar 10, 2014
Messages
1,610
Reaction score
107
Well he was the on the highest in Uchiha police force and the Uchihas alone.
 

ahmo

Leaf Village Regular 🍃
Regular
Joined
Nov 6, 2014
Messages
644
Reaction score
32
Total fodder I'd say, kishi never gave him a hype or anything of that sort. Might be just average jounin strong with 3T
 

Chie

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Mar 10, 2014
Messages
8,333
Reaction score
1,599
Dunno there is no proof that Shisui was the only person .. Itachi mentioned after Uchiha Massacre that two people awakened MS are alive that was obito and himself .. The interesting fact is he never mentioned Shisui MS.. We got know his MS from Itachi using that crow on naruto nothing else ..

There's proof in that after Shisui's death and Itachi showing them he had MS- the reaction of the clan members. They were astonished.

Not only that, but when Itachi was fighting Kabuto, the latter said that one of the reasons the former was special was because he awakened MS during his generation.

In the databooks, for many Uchiha members it states what they had. Izuna, Madara, Sasuke, Obito, Itachi, and Shisui are the only ones that have it under their profiles. At least out of the ones listed.

That's enough to know it was just Shisui and later Itachi as far as the clan knew.

Also Fugaku avoided the topic of MS to sasuke he said Sasuke will learn it later . Whether MS has certain training for Uchiha to get it there is no clue to this.

He wanted Sasuke to wait until he was older so that he could learn it by reading the tablets at Nakano Shrine. But on those it says that an Uchiha has to kill the one closest to them. There's only training to master the techs, not awaken the eye itself. MS becomes apparent under emotional trauma from losing a dear one.
 

Shanks

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Oct 19, 2014
Messages
6,015
Reaction score
1,962
He wanted Sasuke to wait until he was older so that he could learn it by reading the tablets at Nakano Shrine. But on those it says that an Uchiha has to kill the one closest to them. There's only training to master the techs, not awaken the eye itself. MS becomes apparent under emotional trauma from losing a dear one.

Yes this is the only reason Fugaku never appreciated or inclined to discuss further ..

Shisui MS was probably due to Kagami's death i think ,he must have died in war i guess . Got the emotional Trauma seeing it and released his MS..
 

BigGuns Reloaded

Leaf Village Regular 🍃
Regular
Joined
Jan 28, 2013
Messages
965
Reaction score
57
MS requires someone who is closer kin or friend to die

Known people are :

Madara
Izuna
Itachi
Shisui
Obito
Sasuke

If u read the manga it hints at more Uchiha with ms

No one has to die it's merely trauma releasing the special brain chakra

He could've had ms he knew of shisui and itachis

We can't completely assess him we only know he was willing to go to war with the leaf he could preform fire jutsu he wasn't dumb and possibly the strongest Uchiha of his time as are all the other leaders before him
 

Kakooli

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Oct 12, 2012
Messages
6,744
Reaction score
1,336
He gave Itachi yata and totsuka on his 7th birthday.
 

Itachi Solos

Leaf Village Regular 🍃
Regular
Joined
Feb 7, 2013
Messages
935
Reaction score
294
His 13 year old son was confirmed to have more ocular prowess than he did and had better shurikenjutsu by the time he was 10. Truth be told, that's quite embarrassing.

It's not embarassing. Itachi is just too damn good.
 

AlphaScythian

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Mar 19, 2013
Messages
14,389
Reaction score
1,023
Please, Fugaku's testicles carried Sasuke and Itachi we can safely assume he was Prime Lord Teuchi Level
 

Chie

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Mar 10, 2014
Messages
8,333
Reaction score
1,599
If u read the manga it hints at more Uchiha with ms

No one has to die it's merely trauma releasing the special brain chakra

He could've had ms he knew of shisui and itachis

We can't completely assess him we only know he was willing to go to war with the leaf he could preform fire jutsu he wasn't dumb and possibly the strongest Uchiha of his time as are all the other leaders before him

No, it does not.

In the 3rd databook, it confirms that everything Itachi told Sasuke during their fight were fabrications.

It is a fact that MS is awakened by either a) Killing the one closest to you or b) Witnessing the death of the one closest to you.

He didn't have MS. He just had 3-tomoe. Fugaku knew of Shisui's and Itachi's MS eyes since they showed them to him. The 3-tomoe users in the clan know what MS is since on the Nakano Shrine tablets, it says how to achieve it (death of a close one). They way the tablets work is that you can read a little more each eye power you advance. (Ex: 3-tomoe users read how to get MS---> MS users read how to get EMS--->EMS users read how to get Rinnegan--->Rinnegan users read how to achieve IT.) Some clan members with 3-tomoe, Fugaku included, read up to the MS part.

Shisui was stated to have the strongest genjutsu of his time, then he died. Itachi surpassed Fugaku at shurikenjutsu at age 10 and by the time he was 13 it was so obvious even an 8 year old like Sasuke could see it. Then Fugaku's 13 year old son certainly surpassed him upon awakening MS once Shisui died in front of him.

It's not embarassing. Itachi is just too damn good.

You're right, it's not embarrassing. But it does make it clear that his power level doesn't compare to the 4 Uchiha part 2 elaborated on (Itachi, Sasuke, Obito, Madara). The guy isn't anything to brag about.
 
Last edited:

JStar King

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Apr 13, 2014
Messages
8,958
Reaction score
790
He had to b since he was leader. Plus, he had 3T before Itachi killed him.
 

super yang

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Jun 2, 2014
Messages
4,204
Reaction score
150
he was stronger than Darui and/or weaker than Hiashi
 

FemmeFatale

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
May 19, 2013
Messages
28,104
Reaction score
2,116
He was, But everyone is fodder compare to the neo uchiha, and madara.
 

RasenUchihaChaos

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Aug 2, 2012
Messages
9,150
Reaction score
702
Never seen him fight an yet you say he is fodder? him and Mikoto knew itachi was coming. Yet they stayed there and let him kill them?

The uchiha clan always collected senju DNA so for all we know he probably had izanagi

You don't become head of the clan or police force by birthright fugaku was probably high jounin

Also danzo comments on fugaku prowess
 
Last edited:

Lariatoo

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Apr 11, 2014
Messages
4,029
Reaction score
195
Im pretty sure he activated 3 tomoe. But not MS. He was probably med-high Jonin level, with the likes of Yamato And Zabuza...
 

Chie

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Mar 10, 2014
Messages
8,333
Reaction score
1,599
Never seen him fight an yet you say he is fodder? him and Mikoto knew itachi was coming. Yet they stayed there and let him kill them?

The uchiha clan always collected senju DNA so for all we know he probably had izanagi

You don't become head of the clan or police force by birthright fugaku was probably high jounin

Also danzo comments on fugaku prowess

He and Mikoto would have to know. How would they not realize a clan slaughter was going on when they were awake and noticed their son's behaviour had completely changed?

He's definitely not fodder, but he was weaker than his elder son at that time.

The only Uchiha in possession of Senju DNA are Madara and Obito. The clan itself didn't gather it, nor did they have it. The much earlier generations gathered Senju DNA (ie: War arc era).

Mikoto confirmed it's done by birthright when she said that Itachi would have to be in charge simply because he's older:
You must be registered for see images

Danzo only said that in a filler episode.

Im pretty sure he activated 3 tomoe. But not MS. He was probably med-high Jonin level, with the likes of Yamato And Zabuza...

This is pretty accurate. He didn't have MS- even by his own admission he said only a few in the clan's history have awakened it:

You must be registered for see images

"It is said it can only be awakened under special conditions." -The "It is said" part denotes he just heard of how to awaken it... he didn't actually confirm himself how to get MS and thus did not have it.

He's listed as a Jounin. That's his power. U_U
 
Last edited:

Kirokill

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Apr 20, 2014
Messages
3,397
Reaction score
321
His only skills is watching old classic TV movies and daytime drinking.
 

LeSauce

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Apr 12, 2013
Messages
3,649
Reaction score
286
He's not complete fodder. He was the leader of a clan full of elites after all, so he has that hype.
 

PalazzoKefka

Banned
Joined
Dec 3, 2014
Messages
219
Reaction score
24
Since he was the Uchiha clan leader and the leader of Police Force... I assume he was at least low Kage level.

Further taking into account that he is also the father of a deity named Sasuke and psycho Itachi,he's strong,no doubt!
 
Top