Was CM1 Sasuke faster then Rock Lee (Without Weights)?

[Simbv]

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Man you know i meant obviously.

Da **** :| How is beginning of Chunin Exams Sasuke the same as the one who fought Gaara?
Rock Lee said himself "even if you can my movements, it's useless if your body can't react fast enough."

Guess what Sasuke trained his body to be as fast as Rock Lee and he wasn't even using his CM!
Try again man

Im not sure what you are trying to ask me, Can you clarify?

 

[Dantee]

I'm dissapointed. You can't debate worth shit. You're a fanboy. You're upset Sasuke rapes Lee in this scenario and I don't know why. Are you retarded? How does Lee beat Sasuke with his tai and they have equal tai. Are you really that stupid to claim something like that? Lets look at the facts.

Sasuke has equal tai and speed to Lee without wieghts. PLus he has Sharingan to push him over the edge. Lee and Gai confirm about the sharingan, tai and speed bit.

CM is senjutsu so that speaks volumes on the boost it gives.

Lee w/o weights slaughtered pre Kakashi training Sasuke but can barely dodge that sound jutsu.

Pre Kakashi training Sasuke nowhere near Lees speed dodged their fastest attack effortlessly while carrying his teammates because of just a pure c1 boost.




What are Sasukes limits or are you going to keep posting the same stupid scan without going to where he was tired from battle?

PLease tell me how those limits are such a hinderance he still manhandled the Gaara Lee failed to defeat even wit gates.

How would his stamina be hindered against Lee when they wont be running around in circles like Sasuke against Gaara.

How would his stamina be hindered if Lee has to engage Sasuke in cqc giving Sasuke multiple opportunities to strike him with Chidori.

How would Lee evade an opponent in CM who is faster and stronger than him and Lee primarily relies on CQC to do battle.


Now watch you avoid all these arguments with the same lame scan that has been debunked from this argument countless times. you wont dare touch one of these points because you trying hard to save face.

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[Chaosmark101]

Man you know i meant obviously.


Im not sure what you are trying to ask me, Can you clarify?

The Sasuke that fought Rock Lee is much weaker and slower than the one who fought in the Chunin exams against Gaara.

Once Sasuke obtained Lee's speed he can obviously counter him with just 2T. Lee said Sasuke couldn't earlier because his body wasn't fast enough to do anything about it.

Since Sasuke = Lee in speed. Sasuke easily reads him with Sharingan and counters accordingly. CM just makes the win even easier/faster

 

[Ripple Hole]

Man you know i meant obviously.


Im not sure what you are trying to ask me, Can you clarify?

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[Simbv]

The Sasuke that fought Rock Lee is much weaker and slower than the one who fought in the Chunin exams against Gaara.

Once Sasuke obtained Lee's speed he can obviously counter him with just 2T. Lee said Sasuke couldn't earlier because his body wasn't fast enough to do anything about it.

Since Sasuke = Lee in speed. Sasuke easily reads him with Sharingan and counters accordingly. CM just makes the win even easier/faster

Thats the thing, it goes back to the number of disadvantages Sasuke is at when he uses his CM1 along with "Lee level Taijutsu". In order for Sasuke's body to react to Lee's assault and dodge, he would have to move at a pace great or as fast as Lee's unweighted speed, which is something Sasuke can't continue to do.Thats a manga fact. In the end it all comes down to speculation and ultimately a "What-if" scenario. Which is, Can Sasuke get the fight over with quickly with his Chidori? In my honest opinion i don't think Lee would blindly get hit by Chidori or not be able to dodge it, OR direct it to a point of his body that wont be fatal IF he is hit. Which is the point i was trying to get across to that other guy before he got in his feelings and started being disrespectful. This isn't something like BSM Naruto vs someone Like Part Two Neji, those are entirely different realms of power. CM1 and Unweighted Lee are in the same realm of strength, atleast in my opinion.

 

[Simbv]

What im trying to say is, MOST of the genin in part one(Namely Neji,Naruto,Sasuke,Lee,Gaara) were relatively close in stregth untill Naruto goes KM1 and Sasuke goes CM2.

 

[Ripple Hole]

What im trying to say is, MOST of the genin in part one(Namely Neji,Naruto,Sasuke,Lee,Gaara) were relatively close in stregth untill Naruto goes KM1 and Sasuke goes CM1.

Fixed.

 

[Simbv]

Fixed.

Pretty Sure it was fixed the first time. Nice attempts at trolling though.

 

[Ripple Hole]

Pretty Sure it was fixed the first time. Nice success with phax though.

Fixed.

 

[Chaosmark101]

Thats the thing, it goes back to the number of disadvantages Sasuke is at when he uses his CM1 along with "Lee level Taijutsu". In order for Sasuke's body to react to Lee's assault and dodge, he would have to move at a pace great or as fast as Lee's unweighted speed, which is something Sasuke can't continue to do.Thats a manga fact. In the end it all comes down to speculation and ultimately a "What-if" scenario. Which is, Can Sasuke get the fight over with quickly with his Chidori? In my honest opinion i don't think Lee would blindly get hit by Chidori or not be able to dodge it, OR direct it to a point of his body that wont be fatal IF he is hit. Which is the point i was trying to get across to that other guy before he got in his feelings and started being disrespectful. This isn't something like BSM Naruto vs someone Like Part Two Neji, those are entirely different realms of power. CM1 and Unweighted Lee are in the same realm of strength, atleast in my opinion.

Look. Sasuke was stated by Gai and Lee to have the same speed as Lee w/o his weights on.

As I said before Sasuke DOESNT have to be on the offence, there's no reason too especially when he has long range options in the form of Fire ball jutsu, & Shuriken jutsu.

As opposed to Lee who Only has Taijutsu. Sasuke at that point in time already moved as fast as Lee, so with the Sharingan he'll have no trouble reacting blocking or countering. When Sasuke uses his Curse seal his physical attributes get buffed so he'll be stronger than he already was and faster. Chidori will be coming for Lee and with Sasuke's Sharingan he won't be able to dodge it given Sasuke will easily outpace him.

 

[Simbv]

Look. Sasuke was stated by Gai and Lee to have the same speed as Lee w/o his weights on.

As I said before Sasuke DOESNT have to be on the offence, there's no reason too especially when he has long range options in the form of Fire ball jutsu, & Shuriken jutsu.

As opposed to Lee who Only has Taijutsu. Sasuke at that point in time already moved as fast as Lee, so with the Sharingan he'll have no trouble reacting blocking or countering. When Sasuke uses his Curse seal his physical attributes get buffed so he'll be stronger than he already was and faster. Chidori will be coming for Lee and with Sasuke's Sharingan he won't be able to dodge it given Sasuke will easily outpace him.

Its all speculation, OFC Sasuke doesn't have to use as much Stamina since he has his sharigan. But he still has to go at a pace faster or as fast as Lee to react and dodge. And like i said before he simply can't continue for long periods of time. Sasuke can't keep spamming fireball jutsu's and we all know Lee would be able to dodge and virtually keep that up forever. Lee has the most Stamina out of all the genins in part 1

 

[Chaosmark101]

Its all speculation, OFC Sasuke doesn't have to use as much Stamina since he has his sharigan. But he still has to go at a pace faster or as fast as Lee to react and dodge. And like i said before he simply can't. Sasuke can't keep spamming fireball jutsu's and we all know Lee would be able to dodge and virtually keep that up forever. Lee has the most Stamina out of all the genins in part 1

My last post for the day man.
Gaara fight Sasuke = Lee w/o weights in speed
CM Gaara fight Sasuke > Lee w/o weights in speed.
It's an easy concept man. Also Sasuke with his 2T could dodge (albeit almost barely) One Tail Gaara who became faster than him and Rock Lee. And yet Gaara still got hit by Fire ball jutsu and Chidori. Unless you bring some magical scans proving Lee can somehow dodge Chidori from Sasuke using his Sharingan and CM your argument is null.

Also I disagree if any of the genin had the most stamina in part 1 it was easily Naruto for obvious reasons.

 

[Simbv]

My last post for the day man.
Gaara fight Sasuke = Lee w/o weights in speed
CM Gaara fight Sasuke > Lee w/o weights in speed.
It's an easy concept man. Also Sasuke with his 2T could dodge (albeit almost barely) One Tail Gaara who became faster than him and Rock Lee. And yet Gaara still got hit by Fire ball jutsu and Chidori. Unless you bring some magical scans proving Lee can somehow dodge Chidori from Sasuke using his Sharingan and CM your argument is null.

Also I disagree if any of the genin had the most stamina in part 1 it was easily Naruto for obvious reasons.

I could say the same thing. Unless you bring up scans that prove Rock Lee can't then this argument is pointless. Like i said before this is all speculation. Adding on to the fact that Gaara was nowhere near in his right mind when he fought sauske in that forest. He was trying to not get overtaken by Shukaku at that point. We'll have to agree to disagree. Your arguement was better than the last guy though.



After looking at that scan Gaara didn't even attempt to dodge his attakcs. Especially Chidori.

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[Dantee]

Nekka still thinks Lees pace is going to mean something against someone who can react to his movements. Still ignoring the fact Lee only said that because Sasuke has to run around in circles to avoid Gaaras sand. Taijutsu is cqc Sasuke has multiple opportunities to kill Lee and won't be wasting stamina running around in circles at a full speed sprint.

Still ignoring CM is senjutsu boost.

Still ignoring their speed and tai is still equal at the gate.

Lee w/o weights gets med diff by CM 1 Sauce.

 

[NarutoX28]

Still ignores the fact that Sasuke doesn't have to move at max speed in the first place to fend off Lee.

 

[Simbv]

Still ignores the fact that Sasuke doesn't have to move at max speed in the first place to fend off Lee.

Did you read?

Nekka still thinks Lees pace is going to mean something against someone who can react to his movements. Still ignoring the fact Lee only said that because Sasuke has to run around in circles to avoid Gaaras sand. Taijutsu is cqc Sasuke has multiple opportunities to kill Lee and won't be wasting stamina running around in circles at a full speed sprint.

Still ignoring CM is senjutsu boost.

Still ignoring their speed and tai is still equal at the gate.

Lee w/o weights gets med diff by CM 1 Sauce.

All i read was blah blah blah, salty salty salty. I really think you are mentally challenged now. I already said he doesn't have to run around in circles but he still has to dodge Lee's attacks. You just don't like your baby daddy Sasuke being challenged.

 

[Dantee]

All i read was blah blah blah, salty salty salty. I really think you are mentally challenged now. I already said he doesn't have to run around in circles but he still has to dodge Lee's attacks. You just don't like your baby daddy Sasuke being challenged.

Says the guy who can't counter anythinng I have posting on this thread. :lol: Gtfo don't ever reply to me again unless you actually have a legit counter for my posts. You act like I'm making this up when you know damn well theres a scan for everything I post. I'm just dissapointed. You claim to be logical but you're a ****ing idiot saving face.

 

[Simbv]

Says the guy who can't counter anythinng I have posting on this thread. :lol: Gtfo don't ever reply to me again unless you actually have a legit counter for my posts. You act like I'm making this up when you know damn well theres a scan for everything I post. I'm just dissapointed. You claim to be logical but you're a ****ing idiot saving face.

Correction, I could but i didn't cause i didn't want to. You were already in your feelings(drake type feelings) and cursing out over the internet. Doesn't make sense to argue a point with someone like that. Stay Mad.

 

[Dantee]

Still ignores the fact that Sasuke doesn't have to move at max speed in the first place to fend off Lee.

What a dumbass. this guy probs think Sasuke will get winded with just a few exchanges with Lee. He also probs think ninjas move at full speed the entire time outside of trying to blitz the opponent. SHow me one cqc showdown where opponents are moving at a full sprint speed the entire fight. This guy is retarded af and then he doesn't think sasuke CM 1 wont play a role when Lee fights only with tai.

 

[Dantee]

Correction, I could but i didn't cause i didn't want to. You were already in your feelings(drake type feelings) and cursing out over the internet. Doesn't make sense to argue a point with someone like that. Stay Mad.

I''m only cursing because you don't counter my shit dumbass.