[VS] War of best with a twist

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If the schibukai defected and became allies with WB pirates who would win

WB + schibukai vs Navy

in scenario 2 there is no mihawk so who would win then?
 

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So Moria, Doflamingo, and Boa?

To begin with the Shichibukai didn't carry much weight, they fought small fries most of it and only briefly clashed with greater powers. None of them took any fights seriously tbh, their participation was a side-show. It was the Admirals doing the real fights.

They could've changed the tides though, Moria and his zombies can overrun the plaza, Boa was already petrifying marines and Doflamingo could've cut down the execution stand.
 

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So Moria, Doflamingo, and Boa?

To begin with the Shichibukai didn't carry much weight, they fought small fries most of it and only briefly clashed with greater powers. None of them took any fights seriously tbh, their participation was a side-show. It was the Admirals doing the real fights.

They could've changed the tides though, Moria and his zombies can overrun the plaza, Boa was already petrifying marines and Doflamingo could've cut down the execution stand.
Yea and Mihawk in scenario 1. For the sake of the argument they were semi serious here and didn't side with the government. They were still distracting ppl like vista and everything. Having ppl like doflamingo on your side makes a big difference since taking out admirals would be easier
 

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in scenario 2 wg will still have won
since without hawkeye i don't think doffy have what it takes to stop admirals present there
& rest of them are VA lvl
hawk eye is another matter he could have stopped akainu atleast till ace escape
 

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If the shichibukai turned on the marines they win, simple as that. Not even going into the "who is stronger" debate, there simply wouldn't be enough top tier marines to handle both shichibukai AND whitebeards men, and then theres still Luffy, jimbei and Ivankov and ....and ....ace...who's chopping onions in here?!
 

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If the shichibukai turned on the marines they win, simple as that. Not even going into the "who is stronger" debate, there simply wouldn't be enough top tier marines to handle both shichibukai AND whitebeards men, and then theres still Luffy, jimbei and Ivankov and ....and ....ace...who's chopping onions in here?!
There is still garp and sengoku but I agree with u
 

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Kizaru and Aokiji decide to get serious about fighting and start wrecking.


Garp and Sengoku can handle most of the Warlords that turned rogue.

Marines will still come out as the winners. You 2 legends who were on WB's level (not equal, but simply on his level) that chose not to take part in the war..

you also had 2 yonko level dudes who didn't even go serious in the entire war.
 
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Kizaru and Aokiji decide to get serious about fighting and start wrecking.


Garp and Sengoku can handle most of the Warlords that turned rogue.

Marines will still come out as the winners. You 2 legends who were on WB's level (not equal, but simply on his level) that chose not to take part in the war..

you also had 2 yonko level dudes who didn't even go serious in the entire war.
Kizaru can't beat Marco or viceversa. Garp would have a lot of trouble with Mihawk, and sengoku is not a yonko lvl guy anymore his feats as an older man is pretty weak for a top tier. Doflamingo can match him especially with someone like kuma who can bfr him. Wb conmanders like jozu and ace plus ppl like boa etc can take on the aokiji. And a fresh old wb beats akainu in the lowest level of high diff. Marines are out matched because Mihawk+doffy+kuma and boa is a force they simply can't replace. And Mihawk is a yonko level guy by portrayl he can beat any admiral one v one extreme diff of course.
 

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Kizaru can't beat Marco or viceversa. Garp would have a lot of trouble with Mihawk, and sengoku is not a yonko lvl guy anymore his feats as an older man is pretty weak for a top tier. Doflamingo can match him especially with someone like kuma who can bfr him. Wb conmanders like jozu and ace plus ppl like boa etc can take on the aokiji. And a fresh old wb beats akainu in the lowest level of high diff. Marines are out matched because Mihawk+doffy+kuma and boa is a force they simply can't replace. And Mihawk is a yonko level guy by portrayl he can beat any admiral one v one extreme diff of course.
Aokiji + Kizaru + Akainu = yonko level.

Neither Aokiji or Kizaru, went all out in the War of best. Had they gone all out, WB should've been dead pretty quick, seeing how much damage Akainu by himself did.

Sengoku or Garp, can easily stall WB. Boa/Ace and etc would get wrecked by Aokiji dude.. lol.

Not to mention they got VAs to stall the Warlords with. And on top of that Aokiji + Kizaru team up, they can simply start mowing down people in a 2 vs 1. Why would they be able to do that? Because they have the power, superior to anyone else they will be fighting.


Only Whitebeard was the one who could match the admirals in power and in a fight, neither Marco or anyone else on WB's crew can match them.

how the marines can win:


Garp and Sengoku fight WB = Garp and Sengoku win. (i'm sorry man, but there is no way Whitebeard is beating both of them).

Akainu takes on Mihawk (the only other Yonko level guy on the enemy team.) So Mihawk can't do anything, as far as helping goes.

With that , you have 2 Yonko level dudes, who are going to be full serious on killing, going around wrecking people.. and only people who have a chance against them are Marco/Doffy. That is it. Whitebeard's Side will have nothing to counter an Aokiji and Kizaru team up.
 
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Aokiji + Kizaru + Akainu = yonko level.

Neither Aokiji or Kizaru, went all out in the War of best. Had they gone all out, WB should've been dead pretty quick, seeing how much damage Akainu by himself did.

Sengoku or Garp, can easily stall WB. Boa/Ace and etc would get wrecked by Aokiji dude.. lol.

Not to mention they got VAs to stall the Warlords with. And on top of that Aokiji + Kizaru team up, they can simply start mowing down people in a 2 vs 1. Why would they be able to do that? Because they have the power, superior to anyone else they will be fighting.


Only Whitebeard was the one who could match the admirals in power and in a fight, neither Marco or anyone else on WB's crew can match them.

how the marines can win:


Garp and Sengoku fight WB = Garp and Sengoku win. (i'm sorry man, but there is no way Whitebeard is beating both of them).

Akainu takes on Mihawk (the only other Yonko level guy on the enemy team.) So Mihawk can't do anything, as far as helping goes.

With that , you have 2 Yonko level dudes, who are going to be full serious on killing, going around wrecking people.. and only people who have a chance against them are Marco/Doffy. That is it. Whitebeard's Side will have nothing to counter an Aokiji and Kizaru team up.
lol akainu, kizaru and aokiji are admirals not yonko level. shanks made the sky split when he went against WB, akainu can only dream to do that against Wb. he woud lose high diff against WB. sengoku is a shell of a former self, a guy who can't one shot pre ts luffy isnt yonko level. garp is the biggest nightmare but mihawk is a yonko level and can beat any admiral 1v1 and has better portrayal being shanks rival etc.

so convenient to forget doffy, ace, marco, jozu, boa, vista who can hold their own for a while against admirals and if its 2 v 1 like doffy and jozu vs aokiji, aokiji loses its that simple. marco was keeping up with kizaru had no disadvantage against kizaru, he is an admiral level pirate. ppl like ace, vista and boa can overwhelm the likes of sengoku he is not a prime character and he wasnt ever put on the level of garp.

VA's cant do shit there are other captains in the alliance to take them on and there is luffy, ivvankov and crocodile etc who can take on the VA's. the whole scenario is if the pirates band together and take on the navy. Its close but pirates can win due to superior numbers.

NB does a little to much wanking with the navy especially the admirals, marco clearly matched kizaru and yet he is weaker lol what logic is that, kizar was trying to trick him and win and he still blocked akainu's attacks after multiple injuries from underhanded tactics.

WB= garp
mihawk>akainu
doffy+ jozu>aokiji
marco=kizaru
ace+boa+ jimbei+vista>sengoku

and there are still ppl like kuma, ivankov, crocodile, moria luffy high level prisoners and captains of Wb alliance to take on and crush the VA's. the navy gets outmatched even the admirals cant take on that many high level pirates. stop with the wank aokiji and akainu etc would lose to WB if he had no injuries and fresh, same with shanks or kaidou, they are below yonko but can push them to high diff. and marco never went all out either neither did mihawk lol u put the admirals so high they cant mow down ppl of that caliber it childish to hype them that much. and they arent the only ones that can team up.
 
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