[VS] War arc SM Naruto vs Pein

[Oblivionx]

Really?

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don't show me plot images...! or 1st timer SM naruto defeated pain and that is impossible in actual fight...! the thing is nagato isn't mobile enough to put up a fight against strong opponents but pain had no such weakness....! and infact had advantage of number...! in my book pain is above nagato and i didn't say naruto would win, i said he can meaning has a chance, better chance than against pain....!

 

[KidGamer65]

Perhaps, but I already explained why there's a good change Naruto can counter planetary devastation, and as long as SM Naruto is not close to pain when the big almighty push is used, he'll survive. There were a good deal of villagers that survived it, so SM durability tanks it if he's not directly in it.

Except there is no reason why he won't get hit by it as his target will be Naruto, not the whole entire battlefield they are fighting like it was like when he targeted the whole village.

CST turns Naruto into a stain, and for CT...

-The amount of material on the orb is what determines its durability. A normal FRS isn't going to destroy it all and a Chou FRS takes too long to charge up, so the orb will be too large to destroy by the time he launches it.

 

[GodKage]

naruto high dif

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Except there is no reason why he won't get hit by it as his target will be Naruto, not the whole entire battlefield they are fighting like it was like when he targeted the whole village.

CST turns Naruto into a stain, and for CT...

-The amount of material on the orb is what determines its durability. A normal FRS isn't going to destroy it all and a Chou FRS takes too long to charge up, so the orb will be too large to destroy by the time he launches it.

I don't think it takes that long to make. Also, the pull takes enough time for a conversation to take place, so I don't see how Naruto won't have enough time to form a large one.


Actually, Pain won't be able to catch Naruto off-guard with Chou Almighty Push. I found some interesting scans.

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In order to use it, Pain has to cut-off the other 5 paths and channel all his chakra into deva path. Also.

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In order to get the other paths out of the crossfire, he needs to get the other 5 paths away. So, in other words, either A. they retreat, and Naruto gets the picture and runs in order to not face the brunt of it, which he'll definitely survive since anbu survived it.

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or B. He's going to sacrifice all 5 of the other paths in order to use it more quickly. However, it will still require them to be deactivated, which tips SM Naruto off. Bear in mind, he's blitzed Pain before, so he will make some distance, and combined with clone bracing, might enable him to survive.


B is the only way Chou almighty push can actually be used significantly, however, it has an extremely high risk as this would leave only a non-powered Deva Path left to fight which is essentially suicide. Bear in mind, this is extremely risky since Naruto's demonstrated insane durability in SM, and with clones bracing him, he might survive if he makes distance. He won't be able to resist it, but he may very well survive it.

 

[slimreaper]

Current SM Naruto. This isn't Nagato, it's Pain.

Nagato was already confirmed to be much more powerful than Pain.

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Therefore, Pain's planetary devastation is weaker, and Massive ransenshuriken has a chance to destroy Pain's


Also, Naruto's already canonically desecrated 5 Pains. Only problem is Deva Path. However, we've already seen the results of that.

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Even if Nagato was weakened, you have to take into consideration the massive strength increase in SM. SM Naruto will be able to resist with clones and then beat Deva Path in the interval. Once that's done, Naruto destroys the rest low-diff. Naruto can also specifically target Deva Path by using ransenshuriken against him, forcing him to use deva path. That also makes the time gap.


Current SM Naruto wins.

yeah we have seen the result of that

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[Sennin of Logic]

yeah we have seen the result of that

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Funny that people make a thread specifically about an updated character only to use a post of the outdated one as if it mattered.

 

[slimreaper]

Funny that people make a thread specifically about an updated character only to use a post of the outdated one as if it mattered.

funny how current naruto still can't beat bansho tenin

 

[Sennin of Logic]

funny how current naruto still can't beat bansho tenin

Funny how it was base Naruto that fell victim to it and not sage Naruto.

 

[slimreaper]

Funny how it was base Naruto that fell victim to it and not sage Naruto.

Oh please give me a SM counter to bansho tenin plus asura rocket

 

[Howling Fox]

nardo high diff.

 

[Vega]

While I'm a pretty big Pein fan, curretn SM Naruto wins. We already know that Pein is substantially weaker than Nagato. The Chibaku Tensei Pein used against 8 Tailed Naruto won't be enough, Naruto already knows the Intel of how CT works from Itachi so he knows that all he has to do is destroy the gravitational center as objects are being pulled in. This Chodama Rasengan-Shuuriken is enough to take care of CT.

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[SuperChief]

War Arc Naruto is much better with Sage Mode than Pein Invasion Arc Naruto, who was inexperienced and yet still gave Pein a shit ton of trouble.

Naruto wins mid to low difficulty. Nagato (all abilities in one body) goes down differently.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Oh please give me a SM counter to bansho tenin plus asura rocket

Ok, you can't be serious. First of, pulling Naruto towards him is the worst thing he could do. It's begging for this to happen.

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As for Asura rocket, well......

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Naruto blitzes.

 

[iNotorious]

I vote for naruto, current sm feats are amazing.

 

[Xlad]

SM Naruto. Universal Pull is Naruto's main hindrance. But it's very unlikely for him to get pulled into and pierced this time.

 

[Xlad]

Another possible counter. Universal Pull can only pull one person and he/she actually has to be caught off guard. Another thing is that it doesn't freeze the targets movement. Naruto can perform Kagebushins before Universal Pull happens and used the smoke bombs to obscure vision.

 

[slimreaper]

Ok, you can't be serious. First of, pulling Naruto towards him is the worst thing he could do. It's begging for this to happen.

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As for Asura rocket, well......

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Naruto blitzes.

Naruto can't blitz while being pulled in by bansho tenin. This is a pathetic argument, you act as if naruto is fighting these peins individually.

 

[makosheva7]

I think War Arc SM Naruto should win. On a count of him knowing how CT works, he could just throw a Big Ball Rasenshuriken through it. Also there's the fact that he's fought Pain before, so he has full intel on their abilities... Even if this wasn't the case, a much weaker Naruto figured them out, and defeated all of the Pain's except one. Also he doesn't need to have shadow clones on standby like in the Pain Arc. Its logical to say if a much weaker Naruto took down all but one Pain, then a much stronger Naruto should be able to defeat all of them.

So all in all Naruto mid-diff. I seriously doubt Pain would use CT at the beginning as the other paths are right there and would get sucked in too.

 

[slimreaper]

I think War Arc SM Naruto should win. On a count of him knowing how CT works, he could just throw a Big Ball Rasenshuriken through it. Also there's the fact that he's fought Pain before, so he has full intel on their abilities... Even if this wasn't the case, a much weaker Naruto figured them out, and defeated all of the Pain's except one. Also he doesn't need to have shadow clones on standby like in the Pain Arc. Its logical to say if a much weaker Naruto took down all but one Pain, then a much stronger Naruto should be able to defeat all of them.

So all in all Naruto mid-diff. I seriously doubt Pain would use CT at the beginning as the other paths are right there and would get sucked in too.

naruto didn't figure anything out, katsuyu was feeding him intel.

as for defeating the paths of pein, he won't have the advantage of surprise on asura like he did in the last fight. bansho tenin plus an asura rocket would pretty much end naruto

 

[SuperChief]

naruto didn't figure anything out, katsuyu was feeding him intel.

as for defeating the paths of pein, he won't have the advantage of surprise on asura like he did in the last fight. bansho tenin plus an asura rocket would pretty much end naruto

Naruto figured out what to do with the intel Katsuyu fed him.

Naruto managed to dodge Beastkage. The rocket jutsu doesn't even compare, and even so he can have a clone take the bit for him. Just face the facts. War Arc Naruto is a different beast compared to Pein Invasion Arc Naruto. If he brought in Ma and Pa it would definitely be over before it even started.