War-arc SM Naruto vs. EMS Sasuke

[Styles]

Lol People actually saying SM Naruto wins this.

 

[Bogard]

With PS and legged restricted, SM Naruto wins mid difficulty. COFRS will finish Sasuke's Susanoo. His sensing, clones will help him to counter his mangekyou techniques and use them as diversions

S2: SM Naruto low diffs

 

[lanakui8]

Legged Susano takes no damage.

based on.....?

Kirin destroyed something over 600 times larger than Sasuke, whereas one of the FRS's was only 11 times the Raikage's sizes. Kirin>>>>>FRS. Surviving Kirin>>>>>>>tanking FRS. And again, no power scaling means no feat.

FRS is a concentrated wind sphere, comparing the size of the wind sphere to the size of a raw explosion is like saying C2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jinton cube. Both kirin and FRS are on the same level of power, as FRS inflicted more damage on Kurama than 25 mountain hollowing attacks, a fuuton a tier+ below FRS blew open the back of Sasukeʻs V3 susanoo, and the one time we see FRS blow up in a raw explosion, the AoE of the attack was larger than a mountain. You can see my reasoning on this thread:

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I literally just gave you powerscaling: compare the size of FRS to the size of COFRS. FRS is hundreds of not thousands of times smaller than COFRS and at least a dozen times shorter. So COFRS is at least 12x more powerful than FRS and at most hundreds of times more powerful.

No, you cannot. And no, it's not close to thousand of times larger, nor does that imply its size is directly proportional to its explosion's size. Itachi's MS Susano<Sasuke's EMS Susano. Fact. Itachi v3 survived Kirin, thus legged tanks it.

Why canʻt I? Because you said so? Because the implications of my arguments donʻt suit your agenda? If you have no other way of gauging the power of COFRS, then obviously you use the size of the techniques to scale the power. If you want to argue that the size is not directly proportional to its explosion size, then whereʻs your evidence? If you have none, then obviously all the evidence says that a bomb 3 times as large will produce an explosion 3 x as large.

Considering kirin is hardly more powerful than a FRS and COFRS is hundreds of times larger than a FRS, all the evidence points against legged susanoo tanking that attack.

Huh? Enton is following Sasuke's eye movement, which tracked Juubito speed. Clones die until a defence is put up (don't have one). Evading doesn't mean the enton won't follow them.

Thatʻs amaterasu, not enton unless you mean rikudou senjutsu sharinnegan sasukeʻs kagutsuchi, and if thatʻs he case, that obviously doesnʻt imply EMS sasuke could use it.

Doesn't mean they close their eyes while fighting, let alone the fact that they will think they are masked by other clones. They simply need to make brief eye contact, staring contest is a purposeful exaggeration to undermine the fact that Sasuke can put someone into genjutsu at extreme speeds. He controlled Manda, which implies he can control any summon. Being powerful has no factor unless you can kai out or know you are in genjutsu, but since you have no implications of either, you have nothing to argue here. Naruto doesn't know when a chakra disturbance within the chakra pathway is present, Ma would have to get off of Naruto's shoulder, since her arm span cannot possibly allow her to make contact with Pa, who's on the other shoulder. More so, it only takes a second for one of the two toads to be controlled and then have their tongues enter one side of Naruto's head and out the other.

Controlling manda in no way shape or form implies he can control any summon. high level ninja with knowledge on the sharingan by default avoid eye contact, and being powerful most definitely is a factor in oneʻs ability to break or resist genjutsu, especially when ma and pa have never been caught with a genjutsu and therefore you have no evidence based on feats of their ability to resist or not resist it.

The best genjutsu feats of EMS Sasuke is forcing eye contact with some kind of distraction, and heʻs never ever controlled someone with that unless the person was already defeated, nothing suggests he can control ma or pa with genjutsu at a glance. Even more implausible is him catching them with genjutsu in the first place when heʻs never done that to anyone without some kind of third party distraction or first defeating them in battle (unless they werenʻt trying to avoid eye contact like bee). Naruto in SM is one of the best sensors in the manga, I have no idea what you base your assertion about naruto not knowing when someone whoʻs literally fused with him is under the affects of genjutsu, let alone being affected so much that they are being controlled by sasuke.

Because Manda was gg'd with a 3T genjutsu, and the Kyuubi can be gg'd by an MS genjutsu. Either you have some manga scans which imply summons are stronger than the Kyuubi and Manda, or you stop arguing this point altogether. Juubito didn't need to control a summon as a Juubi jin, false analogy. Baku's suction started immediately, Sasuke didn't have the chance to put him under genjutsu, especially from so far away. So my point remains, genjutsu does in fact gg any summons around.

the kyuubi required the MS, hashiramaʻs cells, and a summoning contract in order to be put in genjutsu. Take one of those away and Obito doesnʻt put it under his control. Not only that, but the kyuubi is a massive entity that literally doesnʻt try to avoid eye contact. Pa and Ma are smaller than humans and are far greater sensors than any of the gokage, and even people like madara couldnʻt put any of the members of the gokage under genjutsu until he grabbed them and forced them into it. So no, Sasuke with a mere V4 susanooʻs chances of putting ma or pa in genjutsu are next to zero unless he first defeats naruto or the toads and forces them into it.

Sasuke had all the opportunity to genjutsu baku, and madara made eye contact and genjutsuʻd the kyuubi from a far greater distance than

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so there is no excuse for sasuke not being able to genjutsu the summon if he had the opportunity to do so.

What does juubito being a juubi jinchuriki have to do with anything? If he can fodder genjutsu a summon, then he does it if it increases his chances of winning. Him failing to do so shows that he canʻt.