War Arc Sakura VS Neji

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Sakura has physical power superior to someone who can destroy most of Madara's Ribcage in two hits. Rotation isn't tanking a damn thing. Neji gets eaten.
 

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No, at the end of the day it's a defense, a defense that isn't superior to any version of Madara's Ribcage by feats.
What about ? Though if you look at the DC caused by the Juubi arm, it doesn't compare to the DC caused by Sakura punching the ground.
 

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What about ? Though if you look at the DC caused by the Juubi arm, it doesn't compare to the DC caused by Sakura punching the ground.
That wasn't even him by himself, and Sakura's punch will be far more effective at getting through defenses because it's far more focused than the Juubi's physical attack.
 

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That wasn't even him by himself, and Sakura's punch will be far more effective at getting through defenses because it's far more focused than the Juubi's physical attack.
50% of Juubi's strike is still very strong but that particular usage of it wasn't anywhere near as powerful as some of the Juubi's other feats so I agree with you that it isn't that great of a feat.
 

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neji wins

w/o katsyuu theres not much she can do but attack in vain & get shut down.

her punching the ground accomplishes nothing. it doesn't create heat, or create any tangible force of shock thru the air.

it merely shakes the ground & spreads dust & debris - meaningless collateral damage

its not a directed ninjutsu, its not reliable(nor a true offense ftm) & not flexible in application
 
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Its simply Neji doesnt survive this.

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If you think he even has a chance than you are simply underrating the attack and damage it outputted.
So jumping isn't a concept?

OT: neji stomps, yin sealing opening chakra points is BS its not a constant surge of chakra that can't be stopped and since never proven can't be used in a versus. He closes her points easily since she can't dodge his speed then he just ends her with anything lol maybe a kunai
 

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w/o katsyuu theres not much she can do but attack in vain & get shut down.

her punching the ground accomplishes nothing. it doesn't create heat, or create any tangible force of shock thru the air.

it merely shakes the ground & spreads dust & debris - meaningless collateral damage


its not a directed ninjutsu, its not reliable(nor a true offense ftm) & not flexible in application
Agree with the bold but disagree with the underlined.

The only principle the ground punch seems similar to (at least imo) is that of a landmine and even then except the landmine is rigged with metals to be forcefully spread out upon detonation, only direct impact from underneath would do serious damage.

The punch works by sending chakra into the ground but most of its destructive force is used to destroy the bedrock. The excess force is sent up along with debris and though it's able to get Juubi sized spawns airborne, It's not enough to kill on impact since we see a Juubi spawn standing in the aftermath at the bottom right of the

Neji would without a doubt get airborne (at least without knowledge) but with the byakugan's ability to see through dust [ ]-[ ] He maps out a path that avoids falling debris once he lands and proceeds to attack Sakura who won't see him coming..Or there's a probability he might actually be on one of the Rock debris that's airborne given him possibility of a surprise aerial attack by jumping from debris to debris similar to their tree travelling movement.
 
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No, at the end of the day it's a defense, a defense that isn't superior to any version of Madara's Ribcage by feats.
LMAO Don't tell me you think Rotation is a standing wall of chakra. lmao Do any of you read the manga on anything but easy characters? Rotation doesn't work like any defence let alone Susanoo which is just walls of non moving chakra. And Rotation is superior to any ribcage susanoo easily, since Rotation would easily block every attack any ribcage has ever endured, and they dont even compare. fact!

What about ? Though if you look at the DC caused by the Juubi arm, it doesn't compare to the DC caused by Sakura punching the ground.
The juubi's arm did not target the ground so it is literally not even comparable. The juubi's arm>>>>>>Bijuu! Not to mention one small tail from a bijuu knocked a sage mode susanoo out, and all 9 obliterated a sage mode susanoo. The juubi's tail is at least 5-6 bijuu tails in saize and its fact the juubi has more might then any bijuu by far!

That wasn't even him by himself, and Sakura's punch will be far more effective at getting through defenses because it's far more focused than the Juubi's physical attack.

Wrong again.lol You cannot hit something that is moving at a constant speed eyes can not comprehand. What will she focus her punch at when the spot she hits will rotate 50 times over? Not to mention she uses Chakra to strike the ground, and its fact Rotation deflects chakra back at the user.

50% of Juubi's strike is still very strong but that particular usage of it wasn't anywhere near as powerful as some of the Juubi's other feats so I agree with you that it isn't that great of a feat.
lol How isn't it a great feat when the might of the juubi shitted on both the 8 and 9 tails at a weaker form. Not the mention ninjas were sent fliying from the mear movement of the juubi's tail. As usual you are finding simple arguments to agree with when its obv none of you know what you are talking about. Not to mention teh fact sakura would have to jump far to duplicate the same damage out put she used ton teh juubi clones (that didnt even die).
 

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LMAO Don't tell me you think Rotation is a standing wall of chakra. lmao Do any of you read the manga on anything but easy characters? Rotation doesn't work like any defence let alone Susanoo which is just walls of non moving chakra. And Rotation is superior to any ribcage susanoo easily, since Rotation would easily block every attack any ribcage has ever endured, and they dont even compare. fact!
Ha. Based on literally nothing at all. It being a rotating wall of chakra doesn't make it superior to Ribcage Susanoo just because it's a wall of non moving chakra. It rotating makes it's defensive capabilities stronger than it would if it didn't rotate. It doesn't give it any special characteristics so let's not. :lol Rotation's feats are trash compared to Madara's Susanoo ribcage or not.

Wrong again.lol You cannot hit something that is moving at a constant speed eyes can not comprehand. What will she focus her punch at when the spot she hits will rotate 50 times over? Not to mention she uses Chakra to strike the ground, and its fact Rotation deflects chakra back at the user.
Do I really have to go over why this makes no sense? What you are talking about isn't even relevant. Sakura's attack is more focused because it's power affects a smaller area than the Juubi's attack. Literally nothing you stated has anything to do with that fact. Where are you getting "what will she focus her punch at?" from?

And no, rotation CAN deflect chakra. It doesn't automatically deflect any kind of chakra regardless of the power behind it. Sakura punches Rotation and Neji dies a terrible death.


:lol Dafuq?
 

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Ha. Based on literally nothing at all. It being a rotating wall of chakra doesn't make it superior to Ribcage Susanoo just because it's a wall of non moving chakra. It rotating makes it's defensive capabilities stronger than it would if it didn't rotate. It doesn't give it any special characteristics so let's not. :lol Rotation's feats are trash compared to Madara's Susanoo ribcage or not.



Do I really have to go over why this makes no sense? What you are talking about isn't even relevant. Sakura's attack is more focused because it's power affects a smaller area than the Juubi's attack. Literally nothing you stated has anything to do with that fact. Where are you getting "what will she focus her punch at?" from?

And no, rotation CAN deflect chakra. It doesn't automatically deflect any kind of chakra regardless of the power behind it. Sakura punches Rotation and Neji dies a terrible death.


:lol Dafuq?
List the attacks Rib cage had to endure.

So a not moving fan gets an arrow shot at it, it pierces one of the idle fans. But a moving at over 1000 MPH fan easily deflecks the arrow every single time (fact by the way). Why? Because the arrows focused point not only doesnt have the speed to match the moving blades, but would never ever have time to concentrate it's momentum on the far faster moving spot since the spot would have rotated 20 times over the moment it makes the smallest touch with just the tip alone. That is how rotation works in the most preschool explanation.


Juubi's arm would trash all rib cages, only a fool would think it wouldnt budge. lmmfao

Sakura uses CES, and the databook as well as the manga states she focuses her chakra into a single point. Did you forget that part of the manga or databook?
1. all basic chakra gets destroyed and deflected by jyuken. fact not unproved by the manga.
2. All might regardless of opposing force, momentum, might, power, size etc; gets deflected. Rotation isn't a standard defense like susanoo. it doesnt even compare to susanoo, so please use a better argument. Let alone sasuke has zero feats of destroying one (tsunade isnt sakura).


Lmao then you think a standard puch from sakura standing would duplicate the same damage out put as a flying jumping prepared (wind back and unleash) punch of sakura.... lmmfao Do you all even use common sense let alone feats?

Please just stop while you can KG. Nothing you're saying makes any sense. You're liteally mushing everything that tsunade and sakura has ever done (run, jump, kick, punch, build chakra, shunshin, reaction, speed etc) into a single punch of sakura. lmmfao

Post a solid argument or you have no argument. How does she even punch neji, start from there, then we will continue. (Ice' don't reply, let the new sakura expert stand on his on)
 

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Im gunna say it again, anyone saying sakura winning with no summon, you guys are fighting a losing battle sakura has no feats to show she can combat air palm or stop rotation
 

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List the attacks Rib cage had to endure.
-Ay's chop.
-Ay's Weighted Chop.
-Tsunade's punch.
-Tsunade's kick.

All inferior to a full power strike from Sakura like what she used against the Juubi clones.

So a not moving fan gets an arrow shot at it, it pierces one of the idle fans. But a moving at over 1000 MPH fan easily deflecks the arrow every single time (fact by the way). Why? Because the arrows focused point not only doesnt have the speed to match the moving blades, but would never ever have time to concentrate it's momentum on the far faster moving spot since the spot would have rotated 20 times over the moment it makes the smallest touch with just the tip alone. That is how rotation works in the most preschool explanation.
Useless paragraph because you are doing nothing but explaining what I've already stated to be true. The momentum generated by the movement of the fan increases it's defensive capability just how Rotation is stronger than it would be as a wall of chakra because it's spinning. How is this evidence that it blocks anything you are claiming?

It's not. That's how.

Juubi's arm would trash all rib cages, only a fool would think it wouldnt budge. lmmfao
Based on what? Juubi's physical strikes are slow and in terms of destructive capability they have trash feats for what they should have. Then we have the fact that Neji needed Hiashi's help to deflect it and it's wider than both their rotations so that makes it easier for them to block due to pressure. Not like it matters because Tsunade's kick obliterated Madara's Ribcage.

Sakura uses CES, and the databook as well as the manga states she focuses her chakra into a single point. Did you forget that part of the manga or databook?
1. all basic chakra gets destroyed and deflected by jyuken. fact not unproved by the manga.
2. All might regardless of opposing force, momentum, might, power, size etc; gets deflected. Rotation isn't a standard defense like susanoo. it doesnt even compare to susanoo, so please use a better argument. Let alone sasuke has zero feats of destroying one (tsunade isnt sakura).

Another waste of a paragraph.

1. We already know that CES is chakra.
2. Rotation isn't Gentle Fist nor does Rotation automatically destroy chakra. Where are you getting this nonsense from? :lol If Rotation automatically destroyed chakra then Naruto wouldn't have knocked Neji's incomplete Rotation on it's ass.
3. Lmao log out for good if you actually believe the bold. Rotation is special because it rotates. That doesn't mean it automatically repels whatever you want it to repel without the feats to actually support said claim.

And Sakura not being Tsunade is irrelevant. Their physical power is stated to be on par with each other and in terms of destructive feats Sakura surpasses Tsunade.

Lmao then you think a standard puch from sakura standing would duplicate the same damage out put as a flying jumping prepared (wind back and unleash) punch of sakura.... lmmfao Do you all even use common sense let alone feats?
Where did I say this? :lol Oh wait, never. Tsunade was cracking and wrecking Madara's giant Ribcage with her ordinary punches and kicks as shown in the Manga. Sakura is stated to have strength that might be superior to said Tsunade. Sakura's feats surpass said Tsunade in terms of destructive capability.

Please just stop while you can KG. Nothing you're saying makes any sense. You're liteally mushing everything that tsunade and sakura has ever done (run, jump, kick, punch, build chakra, shunshin, reaction, speed etc) into a single punch of sakura. lmmfao
Show me where I stated this and then we can talk buddy.

Post a solid argument or you have no argument. How does she even punch neji, start from there, then we will continue. (Ice' don't reply, let the new sakura expert stand on his on)
Neji needs to come close if he wants to beat her as he is a CQC Ninja. When he comes close Sakura engages him and hits him. He's not parrying her hits as the gap in physical ability is too large and he's not dodging the AoE of her attacks when her fists hit the ground. If he she jumps up and hits the ground like she did against her he either gets caught in the AoE of her blast and dies or he jumps up to evade it and Sakura strikes him while he's in mid air.

-Rotation doesn't block a damn thing.
-Air Palm does nothing but push her back.

Don't need to be an expert to determine the outcome of this match.
 
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