[VS] War Arc Obito vs. Hashirama

[Demonic.]

All get whipped by the Buijuu's ninjutsu specialty

You're forgetting that the Wood Dragon absorbs the chakra of whatever it binds. It managed to bind the entire complete 9 tails (Naruto only had half of it). Those weaker Biju aren't escaping when the 9 tails couldn't.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

You're forgetting that the Wood Dragon absorbs the chakra of whatever it binds. It managed to bind the entire complete 9 tails (Naruto only had half of it). Those weaker Biju aren't escaping when the 9 tails couldn't.

Obito is fully aware of Mokuton's ability, which he will take precautions.

6 Buijuu's combo>>>9 tails alone

 

[VongolaX]

The hell are you talking about
It's already been confirmed the alive counterparts of Hashi and Madara are stronger than their edos.

I mean between the two alive characters

Who do you believe is overall the strongest

 

[Demonic.]

Obito is fully aware of Mokuton's ability, which he will take precautions.

6 Buijuu's combo>>>9 tails alone

Half of the 9 tails that was subdued by the Wood Dragon owned the 6 Biju already. Remember when the 9 tails got serious and restrained all the Biju with his tails alone? When the 8 tails asked the 9 tails to help before that the 9 tails replied, "Next to me you're the strongest one. You take care of them." And that was just half the 9 tails that was binded by the wood dragon. Besides Obito has knowledge on Wood style but not the wood dragon.

 

[Demonic.]

I mean between the two alive characters

Who do you believe is overall the strongest

Well Hashirama killed Madara. Madara admitted inferiority to Hashirama when he fought the 5 Kage. Madara also called him "the ultimate shinobi." So there's that.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Half of the 9 tails that was subdued by the Wood Dragon owned the 6 Biju already. Remember when the 9 tails got serious and restrained all the Biju with his tails alone? When the 8 tails asked the 9 tails to help before that the 9 tails replied, "Next to me you're the strongest one. You take care of them." And that was just half the 9 tails that was binded by the wood dragon. Besides Obito has knowledge on Wood style but not the wood dragon.

Stop right there. It was 5, first of all, and second no he didn't own them, he had support with Gyuuki on top of it.

There was no serious or un-serious scenario. Naruto clearly took advantage of the line of sight, dust clouds, to catch them. It was the only way to stop them.

When the 8 tails asked the 9 tails to help before that the 9 tails replied, "Next to me you're the strongest one. You take care of them."

So? And Gyuuki replied that the number of tails doesn't determine power. And I completely agree with Gyuuki here.

So what if Obito doesn't know Wood Dragon (even though he witness it when Madara used it) Wood Release serves one purpose and that is to suppress and subdue.

 

[Unorthodox]

Hashirama wins this wood forest or hotei gates put down bijuu once SS comes out obito is turned to dust furthermore hashirama can put a bijuu down with a touch

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Hashirama low-med diff

 

[Demonic.]

Stop right there. It was 5, first of all, and second no he didn't own them, he had support with Gyuuki on top of it.

There was no serious or un-serious scenario. Naruto clearly took advantage of the line of sight, dust clouds, to catch them. It was the only way to stop them.



So? And Gyuuki replied that the number of tails doesn't determine power. And I completely agree with Gyuuki here.

So what if Obito doesn't know Wood Dragon (even though he witness it when Madara used it) Wood Release serves one purpose and that is to suppress and subdue.

Support from the 8 tails or not that was only HALF of the 9 tails that was subdued by the wood dragon, and it started fighting on par with the Biju. Despite what the Hachibi said it's common knowledge that the 9 tails > than all the other Biju, do you disagree with this? Even half of the 9 tails was stronger. The 9 tails needed to be sealed last inside the Gedo Statue or it would disrupt everything and the statue would be destroyed. Strongest had to be last, get it? What the Hachibi said May apply to other Biju but not the 9 tails, who is the strongest without a doubt. I personally think the Hachibi just said that to be courteous. The 1 tails for example doesn't have a chakra cloak and everyone else does. The 9 tails has 9 tails chakra mode while the 8 tails doesn't have that mode. The Biju aren't doing what a full 9 tails couldn't.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Support from the 8 tails or not that was only HALF of the 9 tails that was subdued by the wood dragon, and it started fighting on par with the Biju. Despite what the Hachibi said it's comment knowledge that the 9 tails > than all the other Biju, do you disagree with this? Even half of the 9 tails was stronger. The 9 tails needed to be sealed last inside the Gedo Statue or it would disrupt everything and the statue would be destroyed. Strongest had to be last, get it? The Biju aren't doing what a full 9 tails couldn't.

Thats because Naruto wanted to fight it CQC. Your assuming the fight needs to be CQC and Obito needs to fight this way. I can agree that nine tails have more chakra then them and because of that is capable of more things, other then that no. Half ninetails became a perfect jin, the actions cannot be performed without Naruto.

 

[Unorthodox]

Hashirama wins this should not be debatable

 

[Demonic.]

Thats because Naruto wanted to fight it CQC. Your assuming the fight needs to be CQC and Obito needs to fight this way. I can agree that nine tails have more chakra then them and because of that is capable of more things, other then that no. Half ninetails became a perfect jin, the actions cannot be performed without Naruto.

Killer Bee went through the same training Naruto did and gained full control of the 8 tails. Naruto did the exact same thing but due to the 9 tails being much stronger than other Biju instead of stopping with a 9 tailed cloak, Naruto gained 9 tails chakra mode. This proves that half the 9 tails is on another league than the rest of the Biju. Saying that the Biju can avoid what the whole 9 tails couldn't is just wrong to be honest.

 

[VongolaX]

Well Hashirama killed Madara. Madara admitted inferiority to Hashirama when he fought the 5 Kage. Madara also called him "the ultimate shinobi." So there's that.

That's all I needed to read...

I would understand why you believe why Hashirama would win.


One thing I might add, not sure if OP will follow...

But you do realize he has Gedo mazou with seven full bijuus and a piece of the other two.

You do realize that the juubi transformation is at hand....

Correct?

 

[Bronze]

Obito wraps his ass to the dimension.​

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Killer Bee went through the same training Naruto did and gained full control of the 8 tails. Naruto did the exact same thing but due to the 9 tails being much stronger than other Biju instead of stopping with a 9 tailed cloak, Naruto gained 9 tails chakra mode. This proves that half the 9 tails is on another league than the rest of the Biju. Saying that the Biju can avoid what the whole 9 tails couldn't is just wrong to be honest.

This whole post is not making any sense and I just don't know where to begin

 

[ARGUS]

Hashirama wins this

--Once he enters SM he has the reflexes to react to FTG,, meaning that lol-kamui warp is not happpening

--he can use his SS to overwhelm all the bijuu and then use his mokuton variants such as mokuryu, mokujin, and myojinmon to restrain all the bijuu

--he can use his mokuton KB (which obito cant decipher) to disrupt obitos kamui based moveset, as they act as diversions to attack obito the moment he solidifies to attack

--obitos katons are non factor, they are not scratching bijuu sized mokuton constructs, nor are his mokutons even slightly comparable

--once the bijuus are restrained and eliminated, hashiraama can use his flower tree world, along with mokuton KB which would finish off obito​

 

[Demonic.]

This whole post is not making any sense and I just don't know where to begin

Gaara the 1 tails jinchuriki didn't have a chakra cloak = weakest
Jinchuriki of tailed beasts 2-8 all have chakra cloaks that get stronger as they sprout more tails (up to the number of tails their Biju has).
Naruto, the Jinchuriki of the 9 tails, takes it a step further. Not only did he obtain the chakra cloak, but it went up to 9 tails chakra mode. The other Biju couldn't give their hosts this mode and this mode is unique to the 9 tails because of how powerful the 9 tails is. I do not see the Biju escaping the wood dragon when the full fledged 9 tails could not. The 9 tails is on another league than all of the other Biju.

 

[Demonic.]

That's all I needed to read...

I would understand why you believe why Hashirama would win.


One thing I might add, not sure if OP will follow...

But you do realize he has Gedo mazou with seven full bijuus and a piece of the other two.

You do realize that the juubi transformation is at hand....

Correct?

Jubi Obito > Hashirama. Hashirama already admitted inferiority to Jubi Obito. Im debating with EJ Black about Obito and his 6 Jinchuriki paths vs Hashirama.

 

[kyubbi sagemode]

Hashiramas only problem in my opinion would be kamui. He could deal with the paths with many wood clones and then if they transform he could deal with them with many wood dragons and wood gods. 50% kurama could match the combined tbb power of 5 bijuu and hashirama could easily deal with 100% kurama.

Also the wood god is about the same size as 100% kurama which is way bigger than any of the other 8 bijuus, so the wood god would dwarf the other bijuu. And hashirama can also use the gates he used to subdue the jubbi, so no matter how you look at it hashirama could easily deal with the paths.

Now kamui is his only problem but I feel he will figure away through it cause if obito absorbs one wood clone he's screwed. And hashirama has proven himself very tricky with wood clones... If it fooled madara it could definitely fool obito. Also obito might run out of Chakra considering it takes a lot of chakra to use all the bijuu.

Hashi might not even need shinsuisenju since he only uses it as a last resort but if all else fails he has it so I give it to hashi mid to high diff.

 

[KamuiGodObito]

If Obito has his Paths, he wins.

If not, Hashirama wins.

Hashirama will still win.

 

[KamuiGodObito]

I really wanna give this to Obito. Hashirama is extrememly outnumbered.

Hashirama struggeled against Madara and the Kyuubi. This is 6 fully capable tailed beast with shared vision and a uchiha with kamui and gedo mazu.

I don't see hashirama coming out on top.

He struggled? He put the ninetails to sleep.