[VS] war arc kakashi vs itachi

[wael reda]

Sharingan eyes have conceived Kamui; Sharingan eyes have not conceived Itachi's hand seal usage. You lost me the second you brought up an irrelevant Hebi Sasuke, especially since Itachi wasn't trying in that fight.

Deal with it.

kakashi warped naruto without obito with sharingan and riningan notice

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Kakashi's kamui has already proven to be fast enough to interrupt summoning anyways.
Just take the L bro.

 

[LustyLover]

Give me the full scan and I'll give you the proof.

That was the full scan. Give me your proof now. Give me manga canon evidence showing that Itachi's hand seal speed was slower when he was 13 than when he was 20. No implications, no inferring, no hinting; I want proof. If you can't give me that, take your own advice and log off.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

That was the full scan. Give me your proof now.

No that's a panel I want the full page.

 

[Kamui Sama]

Kakashi high-diff. Since when has War arc Kakashi's Kamui been "conceived"?

 

[LustyLover]

No that's a panel I want the full page.

Stop stalling.

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All it requires is one seal. Itachi's seal speed doesn't matter from 13 to 20 because it's only one seal.

Honestly, this is sad. Are you STILL questioning Itachi's seal speed?

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Honestly, if all you have in your argument is that Itachi loses because his seal speed was slower than it was now even though you have absolutely NO proof, I should stop arguing with you right now.

 

[wael reda]

If they both have no reason to use shit like Kamui and KA, then the battle from part one would just replay itself. Tsukuyomi would end him immediately since Itachi always uses that from the beginning anyways.

you try to get rid of the fact that kakashi used kamui on the gedo in the first second while itachi has never used ka in a fight

 

[Kamui Sama]

Why is KA even being debated in this lol

Anyway we saw Itachi activate KA in canon. He had to first summon the clone and there was a build up time that was required for it to activate, Which Nagato was able to sense and warn Naruto about (thinking its amaterasu). Kamui has shown to have a faster build up time than Itachi's amaterasu anyway

 

[Demonic.]

Lel, resorting to KA..... I've seen it all from Itachi fans now.

 

[Demonic.]

Why is KA even being debated in this lol

Anyway we saw Itachi activate KA in canon. He had to first summon the clone and there was a build up time that was required for it to activate, Which Nagato was able to sense and warn Naruto about (thinking its amaterasu). Kamui has shown to have a faster build up time than Itachi's amaterasu anyway

KA was already programmed "protect Konoha" and it was stored inside Naruto. To even bring it up is a fail already lol

 

[LustyLover]

KA was already programmed "protect Konoha" and it was stored inside Naruto. To even bring it up is a fail already lol

I already explained this, though you obviously didn't even make an attempt to read it. If Itachi can program KA he can unprogram it whichever way he so seeks to.

 

[LustyLover]

Why is KA even being debated in this lol

Anyway we saw Itachi activate KA in canon. He had to first summon the clone and there was a build up time that was required for it to activate, Which Nagato was able to sense and warn Naruto about (thinking its amaterasu). Kamui has shown to have a faster build up time than Itachi's amaterasu anyway

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That doesn't seem like much of a build up time to me. It was activated the second he looked at it.

Besides, then it was rigged to respond to his MS, but the KA I'm talking about is the one where it wasn't rigged. Using KA is like using Tsukuyomi; it's faster because it's a Genjutsu, and this KA is going to be even faster because it's not rigged.

 

[Kamui Sama]

the only time we have actually seen KA being used is in that instance. You didn't show Itachi closing his eyes in prep for it. Saying KA will be faster because it is not rigged is speculation.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Stop stalling.

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All it requires is one seal. Itachi's seal speed doesn't matter from 13 to 20 because it's only one seal.

Honestly, this is sad. Are you STILL questioning Itachi's seal speed?

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Honestly, if all you have in your argument is that Itachi loses because his seal speed was slower than it was now even though you have absolutely NO proof, I should stop arguing with you right now.

So no scan then. You pull up two scans that have nothing to do with the panel you previously shown me, you automatically assume he has full mastery over tech's he uses later on in life during his early teenage years and you assume he can not only weave handseals but summon a crow(he might or might not have) and program it to use ka on kakashi.

All before kakashi looks at him. Lmfao.

 

[Demonic.]

I already explained this, though you obviously didn't even make an attempt to read it. If Itachi can program KA he can unprogram it whichever way he so seeks to.

What about the part where he stored it inside Naruto and he couldn't use it while Itachi was alive?

Killer Bee: why didn't you use it on Sasuke before, ya fool?

Itachi: I couldn't use it then....

 

[Demonic.]

You're correct. But since the cool down time is ten years, and Itachi died when he was 23, it would actually make perfect sense that Itachi used it, because he was given the crow when he was 13 (the year of the Uchiha massacre). It was canonically stated that Shisui's MS would wear off after used, yet Itachi received his eye in the form of its MS; it's common sense the Itachi could use KA. All that's left to know is how and who he used it on. Plot-hole.

I should also note that Itachi awoke Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu, and Susano'o all in one night. That's some crazy shit.

You ever stop and think maybe Shisui used the eye himself. I don't know he was getting jumped by Root and getting his eye ripped off, why wouldn't he use KA to try and fight back.... And who the hell would Itachi have even used it on? If anything he would've used it on "Madara" saying Itachi used it is desperate speculation to include KA as his arsenal...

 

[BenjerminGaye]

You ever stop and think maybe Shisui used the eye himself. I don't know he was getting jumped by Root and getting his eye ripped off, why wouldn't he use KA to try and fight back.... And who the hell would Itachi have even used it on? If anything he would've used it on "Madara" saying Itachi used it is desperate speculation to include KA as his arsenal...

If he used it himself the ms design wouldn't be there when he gave it to itachi.

 

[Demonic.]

If he used it himself the ms design wouldn't be there when he gave it to itachi.

If you say so...but are you positive on that? Just because the eye itself has a 10 year cool down period is it confirmed that Shisui the rightful owner of the eye has the same drawback? It sounds to me like he used it to screw around with Ao...and if he needed to wait 10 years....Shisui wasn't that old.

 

[Demonic.]

Actually I'm pretty sure he did use it on Ao. He had intel on KA. He knew the victims didn't even know they were being manipulated.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

If you say so...but are you positive on that? Just because the eye itself has a 10 year cool down period is it confirmed that Shisui the rightful owner of the eye has the same drawback? It sounds to me like he used it to screw around with Ao...and if he needed to wait 10 years....Shisui wasn't that old.

More than 1 eye.