War Arc Kakashi vs Ay

[TheLostShinobi]

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Conditions: Kakashi starts with Sharingan
Terrain:Flat Land
Does Kakashi get blitzed? Or can he defeat Ay just like his teacher did?​

 

[Amenotejikara]

Ay blitz

 

[BenjerminGaye]

kakashi gets blitzed. restrict v2 and ms and this might be interesting

 

[FlyingRaijinLVL2]

I hate to be that guy that says "blitz gg", but Ay legitimately just blitzes.

 

[Booker]

Full intel and Kakashi hides before Ay can blitz.

Unfortunately Ay has cloak on by the time he's hidden, meaning any offensive maneuver is death.

Ay wins handily.

 

[Amenotejikara]

I hate to be that guy that says "blitz gg", but Ay legitimately just blitzes.

Lol it's either blitz, outlast or lose when it comes to ay or minato

 

[EZQ]

Ay's speed >> MS as per canon. Kamui gg is null. Ay shitblitzes him.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Kamui snipes. He needs to go v2 before he can blitz anything and by then he'll be sniped.

 

[NarutoX28]

Kakashi has some tricks up his sleeve including bunshin feints + Doton Walls (to obscure his LoS), but would ultimately lose because of Raikage's physical tenacity enabling him to resist every attack Kakashi employs as well as Kakashi's lack of stamina. Once Kakashi's stamina is exhausted to the point where he can't use clones, then Kakashi gets negged since he can't compete with Raikages speed.

 

[DrProof]

Full intel and Kakashi hides before Ay can blitz.

Unfortunately Ay has cloak on by the time he's hidden, meaning any offensive maneuver is death.

Ay wins handily.

Depends on the distance entirely, full intel is meaningless if one lacks the reaction speed to perceive.

Kakashi has some tricks up his sleeve including bunshin feints + Doton Walls (to obscure his LoS), but would ultimately lose because of Raikage's physical tenacity enabling him to resist every attack Kakashi employs as well as Kakashi's lack of stamina. Once Kakashi's stamina is exhausted to the point where he can't use clones, then Kakashi gets negged since he can't compete with Raikages speed.

Depends on the distance. V2 Ei undoubtedly would >> any of Kakashi's jutsu application speed.

 

[Booker]

Depends on the distance entirely, full intel is meaningless if one lacks the reaction speed to perceive.

Depends on the distance. V2 Ei undoubtedly would >> any of Kakashi's jutsu application speed.

As far as I know, Ay only has his blitzing feats with his cloaks on. If they each start in base, with full intel, I don't see why Kakashi couldn't be quick enough to escape (especially with smoke cover or something). Unless there are feats for Ay without cloak blitzing, or activating his cloak instantaneously (I honestly don't know).

OT: I was thinking about it some more, and I think that full intel Kakashi could win. Ay is definitely fast enough to avoid Kamui, since Ama and Kamui are comparable in speed, but the problem is that he only avoided Amaterasu head-on, knowing it was coming.

If Kakashi hides, he could snipe Ay from an unexpected angle, which should work. At the very least, if Ay can react to it, he could set up chains in the ground, create a Raiton Clone as a minor distraction, or even use Dog Summons to give him that split second he needs to get Kamui off.

 

[DrProof]

As far as I know, Ay only has his blitzing feats with his cloaks on. If they each start in base, with full intel, I don't see why Kakashi couldn't be quick enough to escape (especially with smoke cover or something). Unless there are feats for Ay without cloak blitzing, or activating his cloak instantaneously (I honestly don't know).

OT: I was thinking about it some more, and I think that full intel Kakashi could win. Ay is definitely fast enough to avoid Kamui, since Ama and Kamui are comparable in speed, but the problem is that he only avoided Amaterasu head-on, knowing it was coming.

If Kakashi hides, he could snipe Ay from an unexpected angle, which should work. At the very least, if Ay can react to it, he could set up chains in the ground, create a Raiton Clone as a minor distraction, or even use Dog Summons to give him that split second he needs to get Kamui off.

From my knowledge yes, Ei has only blitzed while shrouded however, doesn't V1/V2 erect nigh instantly? I believe the application time would prove quicker than Kakashi's own reflexives. If not however, a smoke screen tactic to sever their LoS would be optimal for Kakashi.

Actually, I believe you're right. If we look at this from a tactical standpoint, and not simply x blitzes y, then yes, I believe Kakashi may be able to take this through stealth tactics, though this is only on the premise Kakashi is capable of applying smoke screen before the initial blitz, as well if Ei isn't in favorable blitzing range.

Smoke screen - Hiding like a Mole - Covert location - Kamui snipe

If Kakashi appeals to his advantage (unpredictability), then I believe he can win.

 

[NarutoX28]

Depends on the distance. V2 Ei undoubtedly would >> any of Kakashi's jutsu application speed.

Well, I think there's an increment of time before he uses V2 Shunshin.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

As far as I know, Ay only has his blitzing feats with his cloaks on. If they each start in base, with full intel, I don't see why Kakashi couldn't be quick enough to escape (especially with smoke cover or something). Unless there are feats for Ay without cloak blitzing, or activating his cloak instantaneously (I honestly don't know).

OT: I was thinking about it some more, and I think that full intel Kakashi could win. Ay is definitely fast enough to avoid Kamui, since Ama and Kamui are comparable in speed, but the problem is that he only avoided Amaterasu head-on, knowing it was coming.

If Kakashi hides, he could snipe Ay from an unexpected angle, which should work. At the very least, if Ay can react to it, he could set up chains in the ground, create a Raiton Clone as a minor distraction, or even use Dog Summons to give him that split second he needs to get Kamui off.

where's he gonna hide when the terrain is flat land?

 

[DrProof]

where's he gonna hide when the terrain is flat land?

Kakashi merely needs to surface his head — I doubt Ei would take note of such a small digit before being Kamui'd.

 

[TheLostShinobi]

where's he gonna hide when the terrain is flat land?

He can go underground in flat land

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Kakashi merely needs to surface his head — I doubt Ei would take note of such a small digit before being Kamui'd.

that would bake noise and alert ay. And lack i checked an entire head isn't really a digit.

He can go underground in flat land

which ay would instantly know due to full intel at the very least he'd figure it out as fast if not faster than sakura did.

from there its simply keeping v1 active until its necessary for v2.

 

[DrProof]

that would bake noise and alert ay. And lack i checked an entire head isn't really a digit.

which ay would instantly know due to full intel at the very least he'd figure it out as fast if not faster than sakura did.

from there its simply keeping v1 active until its necessary for v2.

Why do you believe Hiding like a Mole, something which is silent in application would make nose on resurfacing?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Why do you believe Hiding like a Mole, something which is silent in application would make nose on resurfacing?

because it always has. Look at kakashi vs itachi, or kakashi vs sasuke in wave arc. or obito in sasuke vs deidara.

if you have an example of silent resurfacing ill drop the argument

 

[DrProof]

because it always has. Look at kakashi vs itachi, or kakashi vs sasuke in wave arc. or obito in sasuke vs deidara.

if you have an example of silent resurfacing ill drop the argument

Can you show me the first two. The third Obito's was silent from my acknowledgement, what made his location obvious was him yelling.