VOTE Madara vs BM naruto and EMS sasuke

[Lariatoo]

Madara wins both.

 

[Beans2]

If Naruto fires a Flash Bijuu Dama at that supercharged one, assuming he's close enough to fire it off and land it before Kurama can charge and fire his off, which is unlikely since he made that one in pretty much just a few seconds, and Naruto's Bijuu Dama actually has to be charged, fired, and it has to reach it's target, then they'd possibly both go bang, severely damaging everybody involved in the fight, or it wouldn't budge Kurama's due to the ridiculous difference in size, and then he'd just fire his off, and wipe Naruto off the face of the planet.

But like I said, doubt he'll do this before he can fire...so...yeah.

Five tailed beasts had already charged up their super bijuu dama before Naruto even started charging his flash bijuu dama

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. Not only did he match that bijuu dama speed, but he matched it in size and destructive power too. Naruto can charge and fire off

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much quicker than he can form his flash bijuu dama. You can see by the amount of panel time how long

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took to form (let alone fire)....not only that, but the bijuu dama in the last scan is no larger than

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because that's only 50% Kurama, so 100% Kurama's massive TBB would take even more time to charge up.

So based on that, I think it's fair to say that ordinary TBB or continuous TBB knock back Kurama's bijuu dama as it's being charged and it backfires on Kurama, giving him

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treatment.

It's still more than enough to prove my point. Naruto does not have more firepower than an intelligent Kurama. People have said this for the longest time, yet I've seen no statement that proves that, and feats not only don't prove that, feats disprove it.

Well, no actually it doesn't, because we can calculate how much Bee contributed to

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...which was nothing more than an ordinary TBB. Which makes it almost entirely Naruto alone who did that. Considering flash bijuudama matched a collective bijuudama of 5 tailed beasts (and no bijuu other than Kurama can make a TBB above normal size on their own) Bee's contribution to that was pretty minimal.

 

[KidGamer65]

Five tailed beasts had already charged up their super bijuu dama before Naruto even started charging his flash bijuu dama

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. Not only did he match that bijuu dama speed, but he matched it in size and destructive power too. Naruto can charge and fire off

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much quicker than he can form his flash bijuu dama. You can see by the amount of panel time how long

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took to form (let alone fire)....not only that, but the bijuu dama in the last scan is no larger than

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because that's only 50% Kurama, so 100% Kurama's massive TBB would take even more time to charge up.

And based on how fast Kurama charged up his bijuu dama in Naruto's mind, he'd replicate the same exact feat on his own. If we count by panel time like you said, then Kurama charged up a Bijuu Dama larger than the Flash Dama, in 3 panels, while Naruto required 3 panels to charge and fire. If he had made one the same size, he would've pulled off Naruto's feat on his own.

Continuous Bijuu Dama is irrelevant unless you want to prove to me how throwing tiny Bijuu Dama at Kurama's giant one will do anything. He'd pretty much be doing

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. Your point about Full Kurama doesn't hold since that assumes that Full Kurama just doesn't make one the size of the one he made in Naruto's mind.

So based on that, I think it's fair to say that ordinary TBB or continuous TBB knock back Kurama's bijuu dama as it's being charged and it backfires on Kurama, giving him

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treatment.

Lol, read above. Not to mention it's physically impossible for him to push Kurama's Bijuu Dama back into it's mouth even if he had to the strength to do it with just a normal Bijuu Dama. At best, it explodes and everyone gets caught.

Well, no actually it doesn't, because we can calculate how much Bee contributed to

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...which was nothing more than an ordinary TBB. Which makes it almost entirely Naruto alone who did that. Considering flash bijuudama matched a collective bijuudama of 5 tailed beasts (and no bijuu other than Kurama can make a TBB above normal size on their own) Bee's contribution to that was pretty minimal.

Lol. Logic and common sense shows that this conclusion makes no sense. It should be common sense that B's contribution wasn't so minuscule that it'd be irrelevant. Then there's the fact that no other Bijuu can make a Bijuu Dama above standard, yet all 5 of them made one that'd be FAR larger than 5 standards put together.

 

[maniaoqan]

Madara wins both scenarios.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Madara wins both. Bm naruto's firepower is inferior to Kurama's, and Sasuke's Susanoo is inferior to madara's.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

An intelligent %100 Kyuubi would solo​

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[BenjerminGaye]

An intelligent %100 Kyuubi would solo​

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I don't see how kurama handles ama or sasuke's genjutsu but to each it's own....

 

[GLUU]

Madara wins decisively
Madara >> Sasuke
Full Kyuubi > 50% kurama

 

[UchihaGodMadara]

Madara Under estimated so much, just cause hes one of the major antagonist....

Madara would find a way around both of them and smash them

According to Hashirama, Madara is a "A Crafty Fox"

 

[Heisenberg Wannabe]

Madara's PS is way bigger than Sasuke's.
He also has full Kyuubi, which is way stronger than his half.

Madara dominates this fight.

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

Madara and Kurama takes this in both scenarios