Vote 2 sasuke said to be on so6p Lvl so sasuke > 3 eyes madara?

[Zawerni]

And if he knew of, and could use ALL the Rinnegan's Path then why didn't he use them? You're saying Kishomoto restricted him that much?

Naruto had all the Bijuu chakra and their Kekkei Genkai but didn't use them. Dat restriction.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Madara get stabbed by Black petroleum product. That restriction.

 

[Nagi]

Madara get stabbed by Black petroleum product. That restriction.

That Black Petroleum product had control over Obito's body which had rikudou chakra left in it. But yeah, still a major restriction in my eyes.

 

[Umari Senju]

I desagree sasuke took down more stronger people then naruto

Really....

I'll just use Part II for Reference:

Sasuke:

Deidara
Itachi- a sickly one but still his
Kabuto-with help
Orochimaru - a sickly one but still his
Danzo-all his in every way
Obito-joint effort
Madara-joint effort
kaguya-joint effort


Naruto:

Kakuzu
Nagato-with intel
Kurama-Assisted
Muu-one shotted
Third Raikage-All Naruto even the notion of asking Rubber guy and hachibi for intel.
Obito-Assisted
Madara-Assisted
Kaguya-Assisted


Seems pretty even to me.

 

[Ging]

I was talking about their abilities, Shinra Tensei, Bansho Tenin, etc.



RSM basically just powered Naruto up, the only new thing he got in which was the TSB. When Sasuke attained the Rinnegan he attained several new abilities in which he had no time to learn how to use or master - the 6 Paths.

Also, RCM gives Naruto universal understanding of chakra right? That's basically instant knowledge of things.

The battle should have never went far enough for Sasuke to have used the Bijuu if he wasn't restricted.

RSM provided naruto TSBs,Chakra Arms,Chakra Rods,All Elements,All KKgs & KKts and 8 bijuus Chakra other than kyuubi.

TSB manipulation alone provides naruto much more room to improve than you think.

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TSB Shield was powerful and fast enough to block 8th Gate Gai's 2nd Strongest Attack

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TSB Orb Shield can tank 4 Juubi damas neg deff.

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With TSB manipulation, Obito was able to pick EMS Sasuke's PS and naruto's BSM Avatar at the same time and it was powerful enough to squeeze to destroy.

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On top of that Nonuboku sword, Strongest Sword in NV, by which SO6P changed the world.

TSB already proved to be faster than kamui
Naruto's BM Avatar may wear his TSB stuff which will make it quite stronger than before.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Sorry OP this thread having a transition from Madz vs Sasuke into Narto vs Saske.

 

[solorflare99]

Yes but can we take a moments to look at this man's avatar.

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[Umari Senju]

RSM is basically the same as Tailed beast chakra mode + sage mode. So What could Naruto be lacking with his RSM?

By that logic Rinnegan is MS +EMS..Which is false.

I will break it down:

Sage Mode- Frog katta Senjutsu no bijuu chakra

Chakra Mode- All Bijuu chakra mixed in with Naruto's own chakra

Tailed beast Chakra Mode- is Naruto in Sage and Beast Mode

6 Paths Sage Mode (Rikudo Sage Mode)-
All nine bijuu chakra which grants access to all elements Yin and Yang and Yin-Yang
All Kekkei Genkai and Kekkei Tota
Truth Seeking Balls
Chibaku Tensei seal (one time use)
Ashura/Bijuu Avatar
Flight

There was still a lot for Naruto to learn. Naruto didn't even know he could fly until his fight with kaguya

 

[Nagi]

By that logic Rinnegan is MS +EMS..Which is false.

I will break it down:

Sage Mode- Frog katta Senjutsu no bijuu chakra

Chakra Mode- All Bijuu chakra mixed in with Naruto's own chakra

Tailed beast Chakra Mode- is Naruto in Sage and Beast Mode

6 Paths Sage Mode (Rikudo Sage Mode)-
All nine bijuu chakra which grants access to all elements Yin and Yang and Yin-Yang
All Kekkei Genkai and Kekkei Tota
Truth Seeking Balls
Chibaku Tensei seal (one time use)
Ashura/Bijuu Avatar
Flight

There was still a lot for Naruto to learn. Naruto didn't even know he could fly until his fight with kaguya

Wrong. Rinnegan is totally different from EMS. RSM is the chakra mode + sage mode + Rikudo charka.

RSM is not no totally different power like the rinnegan. The only thing it got over the other is Truth Seeking Balls and the ability to fly. All that extra shit fall under tailed beast chakra mode due to having all the other tailed beast chakra in him. So really ain't much room to say that Naruto is lacking experience with RSM. He can fly with no problem. He created 9 different rasengans against kaguya with no problem.

So saying naruto was lacking experience with RSM in VoTE is wrong. We can say he was Nerfed hard. But he wasn't lacking experience like Sasuke was with the rinnegan.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Sorry OP this thread having a transition from Madz vs Sasuke into Narto vs Saske.

He was already proven wrong, the Kyuubi was talking about Sasuke's chakra control, not power.

Naruto had all the Bijuu chakra and their Kekkei Genkai but didn't use them. Dat restriction.

The mode Naruto was in is partially formed from chakra from all the Bijuu. He had it and used it.

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When did Naruto ever use the Bijuus jutsu without their help?

And as i said before, if Sasuke had his sword, instead of using Chidori, he could have peirced him through the head or heart at the very beginning of the battle before Naruto even had the time to use any jutsu.

But you'd rather ignore this.

RSM provided naruto TSBs,Chakra Arms,Chakra Rods,All Elements,All KKgs & KKts and 8 bijuus Chakra other than kyuubi.

TSB manipulation alone provides naruto much more room to improve than you think.

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TSB Shield was powerful and fast enough to block 8th Gate Gai's 2nd Strongest Attack

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TSB Orb Shield can tank 4 Juubi damas neg deff.

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With TSB manipulation, Obito was able to pick EMS Sasuke's PS and naruto's BSM Avatar at the same time and it was powerful enough to squeeze to destroy.

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On top of that Nonuboku sword, Strongest Sword in NV, by which SO6P changed the world.

TSB already proved to be faster than kamui
Naruto's BM Avatar may wear his TSB stuff which will make it quite stronger than before.

Naruto's been using chakra arms since Part One. He doesn't have all KKG's, just the Bijuus. For example, he doesn't have wood style or Kimimaro's Bone stuff.

 

[solorflare99]

Wrong. Rinnegan is totally different from EMS. RSM is the chakra mode + sage mode + Rikudo charka.

RSM is not no totally different power like the rinnegan. The only thing it got over the other is Truth Seeking Balls and the ability to fly. All that extra shit fall under tailed beast chakra mode due to having all the other tailed beast chakra in him. So really ain't much room to say that Naruto is lacking experience with RSM. He can fly with no problem. He created 9 different rasengans against kaguya with no problem.

So saying naruto was lacking experience with RSM in VoTE is wrong. We can say he was Nerfed hard. But he wasn't lacking experience like Sasuke was with the rinnegan.

RSM, Fourth Databook, read, realize why you are wrong.

 

[TrollKing]

Naruto had all the Bijuu chakra and their Kekkei Genkai but didn't use them. Dat restriction.

Don't you know using rsm is using all them bijuus chakra already?

Don't you know spirit bombs > rasenshurkenbijuudama separated into 10? :lol:

 

[Zawerni]

The mode Naruto was in is partially formed from chakra from all the Bijuu. He had it and used it.

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When did Naruto ever use the Bijuus jutsu without their help?

And as i said before, if Sasuke had his sword, instead of using Chidori, he could have peirced him through the head or heart at the very beginning of the battle before Naruto even had the time to use any jutsu.

But you'd rather ignore this.

Never used any of their jutsu or Kekkei Genkai. Even by Sasuke's own words Naruto wasn't fighting seriously.

Keep fappin :lol

 

[Nagi]

RSM, Fourth Databook, read, realize why you are wrong.

lol You read it. RSM is a heightened state of Sage Mode, which drastically empowers the user's abilities to a far greater extent by utilising the Six Paths Sage Chakra.

Do you know what heightened state mean? It is like super sayian 3! You're trying to tell me that it is 100% different from all of his previous power. That is like saying super sayian 3 is 100% different from super sayian 2.

Rinnegan is 100% different from EMS. So therefore, Sasuke lacked the experience with it at the time.

RSM is not 100% different sage tailed beast mode. So therefore, Naruto wasn't lacking experience like Sasuke was with the rinnegan.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

Sasuke's chakra control is rivaled. I don't know but I thought winning battles had a lot more to do than just chakra control.

 

[solorflare99]

lol You read it. RSM is a heightened state of Sage Mode, which drastically empowers the user's abilities to a far greater extent by utilising the Six Paths Sage Chakra.

Do you know what heightened state mean? It is like super sayian 3! You're trying to tell me that it is 100% different from all of his previous power. That is like saying super sayian 3 is 100% different from super sayian 2.

Rinnegan is 100% different from EMS. So therefore, Sasuke lacked the experience with it at the time.

RSM is not 100% different sage tailed beast mode. So therefore, Naruto wasn't lacking experience like Sasuke was with the rinnegan.

You clearly didn't read it. When you read then we can have a discussion.

 

[Nagi]

You clearly didn't read it. When you read then we can have a discussion.

Are you saying RSM is 100% different from Sage tailed beast mode?

Stop trying to give me the runaround. Drop the link!

 

[solorflare99]

Are you saying RSM is 100% different from Sage tailed beast mode?

Stop trying to give me the runaround. Drop the link!

I can provide the link, I was just under the assumption you weren't total BS.

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nardo=naruto

 

[Zaraki Ken]

didnt read but i see the sasky retards saying he can take him lmfaoo

ot: madara negs, should be obvious lol

 

[lndra]

In terms of skill, Sasuke's chakra control surpassed The Sage, and overall he has more skill than Kaguya, and is now even able to teleport to her dimensions, which only she was able to do.

Naruto, and Sasuke are equal in power. Sasuke could defeat Madara by outsmarting him, everything is not about power level/who can make the biggest blast.

How? He displayed chakra control equivalent to the Sage. I don't that qualifies to overall when we look at Hagoromo and what he has shown to due (Created the moon for instance). More skill than Kaguya ... Isn't that a reach? I'd love to hear your explanation on it honestly, show me the argument so I can see it better.

Well his feats of Kaguay's dimensions aren't on par considering he used it approx. 1-2 times and look how horribly nerfed his power was (in the terms of not being able to use EMS).

I agree. I think they are equal in power, just in the long run Naruto has more abilities to increase his own, they were always equal in strength in the long run away. I mean look at VOTE2. That's why Sasuke used the Bijuu in the first place, because Naruto was going to continue to stalemate his techniques and try not to seriously hurt Sasuke, so Sasuke forced him to.