Villains that lack conviction are boring

[Genjutsu da]

Like Nagato and Obito. Your honest opinion now. Can you ever reread chapters in the past when either Nagato and Obito talk about their plans and world critic and still respect what they are saying? Or do you think they are silly since you know they will eventually get Tnjd?

 

[TwistedSmile]

Too much talk made it kinda bland. They'd have better taken action earlier than waste time blabbering.

 

[SayWhat21]

i think the one who lacks conviction is sasuke first he wanted to kill itachi then the village, then wants to become hokage now wants to kill all the 5 kage like really whats he gonna do after he kills the 5 kage no one is gonna listen to him at least obito and nagato had a plan hmm

 

[BlacLord™]

The best villains are the charismatic ones.

 

[Genjutsu da]

i think the one who lacks conviction is sasuke first he wanted to kill itachi then the village, then wants to become hokage now wants to kill all the 5 kage like really whats he gonna do after he kills the 5 kage no one is gonna listen to him at least obito and nagato had a plan hmm

Sasuke's conviction has evolved. Nagato's and Obito's simply disappeared

 

[AlphaScythian]

So back then you felt that nagoto or Obito would get TNJed?

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Tnj is the strongest kkg that ever existed no one can escape it, so how do you expect nagato to escape it

 

[Genjutsu da]

So back then you felt that nagoto or Obito would get TNJed?

No but when you read those parts again you know that they will be TnJd, so those moments don't feel as good anymore imo

 

[RufusSerano]

I still like the Nagato cycle actually... knowing how it ends makes me appreciate how well the character was designed from the start whil rewatching it rather than boring me. Though ultimately he turns out not to really be a classical 'villain' so if you hoped that he would be, then I can see why you would be disappointed now.
I personally like grey characters more than those cliche good guy bad guy type of characters...

 

[TwistedSmile]

Tnj is the strongest kkg that ever existed no one can escape it, so how do you expect nagato to escape it

Indeed, it seems to manifest itself very strongly in Asura's reincarnations. Who knows, Iruka could be distantly related to him Lol

 

[Genjutsu da]

Tnj is the strongest kkg that ever existed no one can escape it, so how do you expect nagato to escape it

Wind+ yang+kyuubi= TnJ

 

[V h o]

To be honest, none of the naruto villains have ever hit my definition of a villain. They all had some bad history or manipulation to cause them to act a certain way, basically puppets of the system. I like a villain who does whatever because they feel like it, and no form of TNJ will change them.

 

[KingHashirama]

Both had conviction, only villain that didn't have conviction was orochimaru, they dude had 0 purpose.

 

[Sage Moonblood]

The fact that they were tnj'd doesn't mean they lacked conviction

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Indeed, it seems to manifest itself very strongly in Asura's reincarnations. Who knows, Iruka could be distantly related to him Lol

Definitely .......................

 

[KillerbYo]

So do you like villains like General Zod then? I think this is pretty subjective a villain needs to fit into the story.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Wind+ yang+kyuubi= TnJ

It's even stronger bruh , I gave my respect to kaguya and madara for not getting tnj'd U.U

 

[AlphaScythian]

No but when you read those parts again you know that they will be TnJd, so those moments don't feel as good anymore imo

Yeah but you conclude that at the very end. Even Obito was about to choke naruto but latter pulled rin ginjutsu on him U_U in same chapter.

 

[HiddenSound]

Nagato and Obito were some of the best villains.

 

[-Spoiler-]

Nagato and Obito were some of the best villains.

True, True Nagato's method would have actually work peace by instilling great fear