nice points as always with you but my list didn't include ppl we have not seen fight......and again my main arguement for itachi is the combo of susano,yata's mirror and sword of totsuka........as great as susano,amaterasu and tsukuyomi are......the sword and the mirror take the cake......mainly the sword......anything it touches is just f*cked.........it's completely overpowered for the narutoverse even now.......i mean its like some kinda jutsu that someone on narutobase battle arena would think of......only the mods/sensei's......whatever(i dont battle) wouldn't let them use it....cuz it pwns so freakin much........Odd words for a civil conversation! Looks like you have had some bad encounter.
Comparing any shinobi with others doesn't do much good. Temari beat Shikamaru, Shikamaru won against Hidan. Doesn't mean that Temari had any chance against Hidan.
Nagato: Strongest Shinobi. It's too bad that he never got a chance to use his power to full potential. Rinnegan was amazing and Nagato was a talented. I doubt Madara would even ever challange him in real battle.
Madara: Most cunning and coniving. Madara's real power is manipulating others. He attacks from behind and rather fight in gurrilla style.
Orochimaru: Evil intellectual. His thirst for power went beyond Madara's.
Itachi: Losing him to politics was the greatest loss for Konoha. His fighting skills combined with his sheer will power and intellect would have made him a great successor to hokage position some day.
Minato: A great talent and genius shinobi. Acheived quite a lot in a very short time though he didn't have any special blood line ability as far as we know. He caged the Kyuubi and succeeded in chasing off Madara for a second time.
Some may argue that he didn't beat Madara as he said that Madara countered his every move to fight with Kyuubi. But my POV is that he did seal Madara's weapon, thus Madara+ Kyuubi < Minato.
If Madara had any other thing up his arm besides Kyuubi, he would have profitted by Minato's death. Instead he had to retreat again to gather some other pawns. War was not over but, that particular battle was won by Minato. And Minato also managed to think a future strategy to deal with Madara, at the same time fighting with kyuubi.
Jiraiya: Greatest sensei in his time- he inspired his pupils to great things in his own way- Minato, Naruto, Nagato... extraordinary students.
Jiraiya probably would have beaten Pain if he realised sooner what was he up to. Jiraiya was taken by surprise. Nagato probably would not have been able to use shinera Tensi ( his personal favourite defence and offence in Konoha) in Amegakure- his weakness= Jiraiya's power. i don't mean to say Jairaiya was more powerful than Nagato or not- In Naruto verse it's just a matter of having a lucky day.
Also I see many argue that Itachi lied when he said he won't be able to defeat Jiraiya. Itachi had said that at the best it would be a draw- both parites Itachi+Kisame and Jiraiya all three dying. It's a mere speculation that Itachi lied- Itachi never lied about skill level of any shinobi any time. He gave analasis quite neutrally and as a matter of fact. He would have just told Kisame that they didn't need a full scale fight anyway as he said him after their encounter with Kakashi and others. He woould have told Jiraiya that he was leaving.
Let's face it Jiraiya had not even started- he had just summonned toad belly and Itachi had to use Ametseasu to escape it. It use to damage his eye- why would he use if he could escape at less than that? Ametsrasu was sealed by Jiraiya.
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Maybe Itachi was wrong and would have won. but, one can never be sure- only speculate at best.
Same goes for every other comparison too.
Naruto is no doubt going to turn out to be the strongest in his own way- he has something more than fighting skills. A will power and a positive infulence over others... Sasuke is better skilled at fighting - because he is able to be more focussed and think faster than Naruto. Still the path he chose limited his accomplishments. Naruto uses more than his fighting skills in a battle. As I read somewhere at theis forum itself- Nagato was defeated by a book.
Sasuke would end up the best general out there, but the king would be Naruto. Sasuke doesn't show much people's skills , does he?
Views on Itachi.......Was he the Strongest????
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SSJ3Gotenks
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Odd words for a civil conversation! Looks like you have had some bad encounter.
Yeah you can't make any counterpoints to Peaceful without him calling you a spammer or threatening you with a report. I still will discuss it but is better this way than his.
omg you are still here!!!!Odd words for a civil conversation! Looks like you have had some bad encounter.
Yeah you can't make any counterpoints to Peaceful without him calling you a spammer or threatening you with a report. I still will discuss it but is better this way than his.
Hmm... yes your list didn't. I quoted the last post and replied to that...
Itachi is my favourite. And his susano and yata mirror and sword were amazing. I just wonder how long he could use it and if there were any other limits to it- like that 5 sec gap thing with Deva pain...
It also makes me wonder about Itachi's gift to Naruto. It mught just be a message, but, I am hoping it's something more interesting than a mere lecture to Sasuke- lol
Since, Oro was looking for the sword, it makes me suspect that the sword was in Itachi's posseion but, not part of susano tech. And I believe Naruto can use a sword- he doesn't have any though a lot of manga covers equipped him with one.
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did orochimaru bite itachi with his snakes?
if you look at bio ...itachi is much stronger...
if you look at bio ...itachi is much stronger...
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