Valley of the End Madara vs Rinne Tensei Madara

[Waltz]

No one's saving you from this scolding. ​

I'm not going to waste my time arguing semantics with your idiotic ass, and the rest is more irrelevant nonsense that doesn't prove your point. Come back when you can prove Madara can use all the techniques, until then I'm not tryna hear it.

Again there was no where in any of my posts where I ever claimed that Madara can use all the techniques: I proved to you that Madara can use more than one Rin'negan ability because you initially moaned that Limbo was the only ability he could use. ​

At that moment in time he didn't need to survive. Shit didn't become a situation where he was on death's door until the moment his plan fails. But of course, you can't read so I'm not surprised. Masking the stupidity of your argument behind memes and fancy font ain't gonna help your case here bud.

None of that negates the fact that Kakashi could have used Kamui during the Deva fight, could have used it to take thefight, could have used it to evade death all together but didn't. Initially you claimed that RT not using Chibaku Tensei and only using it until after gaining the Second Rin'engan must mean he didn't have the jutsu and that's fallacious. ​

Good thing my personal beliefs are all backed by facts.

You never proved Limbo cannot negate it. First you tried to say that the Kyuubi's Bijuu Dama was heavier than the Kyuubi with a 4T TBV2 Naruto analogy and that failed. Second you tried to say that the Bijuu Dama were bigger than the Kyuubi and as big as Shin-Shuusenju's fists and that failed because that would mean Madara's Susano'o blades grew many times larger. Thridly, you tried to say the size of the sword changed but that failed because based on what was shown in the manga [

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] your idea says the blades are 2 times larger than the Bijuu Dama that are larger than the Kyuubi which goes from 100->0 considering the fact we've already seen the blades compared to the size of the Kyuubi in the Manga:

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I'll remind you once more: You have absolutely no proof or any scan of Madara altering the size of Perfect Susano-o's blades. There are no feats backing your statements, only poor logic.
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Can he replicate that quantity at once? No. Thus your point does not stand. End of story. There is literally no reason for you to continue arguing this point, and this point is especially retarded because Suiton's power only has to do with the amount of water produced when the same user is using it.

He already replicated that quantity at once, that's what the Manga shows: all the Bijuu being repelled at the same time. @Bold: Why are you even talking about power when that was never apart of the discussion? I already told you that Kisame can replicate it with regular water because it's made out of regular water and all he has to do is match the quantity just as how Hashirama could create an entire forest without doing an actual jutsu all he has to do is continue pumping chakra to make his Mokuton grow to into a forest. It's pretty m uch evident that you're not even in awares that KKG users can use their KKG without performing actual Jutsu (Mu, Yamato is an example) just as Elemental users can utilize their elements without performing actual jutsu and if they channel more chakra into it the quantity would increase. ​

More comments that prove to me how retarded you really are. Just go back to trolling Waltz. Mokuton is an element, it just isn't one of the 5 basic nature transformations.

How Ironic. There are only 5 elemental nature transformation's, Mokuton isn't one. So calling it an element as Fire is a element is as dumb as calling a the end product of blending an apple and an orange together a fruit. ​

-First part makes no sense. We aren't discussing jutsu here so why are you mentioning it?
-The second part is false and you've shown no sort of thing mentioned in the last little bit of your post.

His jutsu will, but we aren't talking about jutsu. We are talking about generic Mokuton being made into something that rivals an actual jutsu which, of course, is based on nothing. The bold is exactly my point you illiterate incomprehensive twit. There is zero proof that Madara can replicate jutsu level Mokuton without being able to use that jutsu just how people stronger than Obito can replicate his Katon without actually knowing that jutsu.

Here's why: You tried to compare Adult Sasuke's inferior Katon jutsu to Obito's superior Kation jutsu to make an analogy between that and Hashirama's Mokuton jutsu and RT Madara's mokuton Jutsu. The difference here is that Madara is using Hashirama's Jutsu where as Sasuke and Obito are not only using their own respective Katon jutsu but they're different level's of jutsu which makes the point you were trying to make, pointless.@ Bold: I already showed you Madara is able to increase the Density and quantity of his Mokuton and he will do so until it rival's that of Hotei.

@Underlined: If the Jutsu is made of the same substance as the genetic Material then the genetic Material can be used to rival or produce the actual Jutsu. Why do you think Suiton users don't have to make water if they are already fighting on water?

@Red: Makes no sense. People stronger than Obito replicating his level of katon Jutsu without actually know the jutsu is just like saying Kisame replicating the quantity of a Suiton Jutsu belonging to Zabuza that Kisame does not know. How does a stronger Shinobi producing an element to the same quantity of a jutsu of the same element produced by a weaker shinobi support what you're failing to and cannot prove: That Madara cannot condense his Mokuton to Hotei's level.

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Then they would all be slowed down to the same rate moron. Try again. There's no reason they'd ever be grouped together.

Now I gotta teach this sheep more physics. Throw 3 tennis balls into the air one after the other and I guarantee you there will be a point when all three of them are in line with one another. The Bijuu-dama would slowly decelerate in the air and those fired first will slow down first giving those fired last time to catch up until eventually they would all be at roughly the same place. ​

All of this has been addressed.

The only thing you've done is try to counter my post and you've been failing each time and still waiting for you to let us know how VoTE Madara win's. ​

The Bijuu Dama ITSELF was going to hit him, so dodging to the side at a great enough distance means that the ball soars past him. Once again, being the insufferable retard that I know you are, you mention all this nonsense without realizing how irrelevant it is.

And no, the ball wasn't moving downwards to his position as the

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Wrong again: it was moving downwards, him needing to change it's trajectory should make that obvious to you but then again, you're mulish and adelepathed:

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If he jumped to the side it would have crashed where he previously was and he'd have been caught in the blast and don't try to sugarcoat your argument by adding great enough distance.

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It's arm is the size of the Kyuubi's main body you moron. The Bijuu Dama fired in the last blow aren't smaller than the Kyuubi.

The Kyuubi isn't just it's main body, its the main body and the tails and it picking up the Kyuubi doesn't mean it's hand is as big as the Kyuubi just as picking up a cat doesn't mean your hand is as big as the cat. Did unorthodox teach you how to debate?

They are smaller than the Kyuubi and we've already seen how those Bijuu-Dama are created. There's no panel of the Kyuubi making them bigger and don't try to bring back the whole "They were as big as SSS's arm's" argument because i already told you that the Manga drawing scale is crap and some of those Bijuu-Dama were drawn to be as big as SSS's whole head:

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When we all know that Perfect Susasno'o's swords are smaller than the Mokujin that was atop the head and by your baseless "max sword length" assumption, that would made Madara's swords 2-4+ times the size of the Susano'o itself and both of our scans; meaning, not only did I but you also proved yourself wrong because the size of the swords length's in the scan's we both provided negates this craziness you're asking me to believe.​

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And what the hell point are you even trying to make here? The blades are irrelevant. That explosion is the result of both their attacks colliding and Madara's attack is half of that explosion. None of that is dust. That is AN EXPLOSION.

The blades can't be irrelevant if they're apart of Madara's attack clown and the Arm's smashing into the Kyuubi [

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In the Itachi Scenario we saw what itachi did and how it happened. It was in a successions as one head was chopped after another. The number of heads that fell on the ground simultaneously was the same number of heads that got repelled above the shield, 5. In Madara'situation we did not see what Limbo did but it affected the Bijuu at the same time and they all fell at the same time.

The author having different panels of each Bijuu being hit doesn't mean they were hit in succession because if they were hit in succession they wouldn't all fall at the same time. You still don't have any proof that they were hit in succession. ​

 

[KidGamer65]

That desperate to get proved wrong huh?

No one's saving you from this scolding. ​

Again there was no where in any of my posts where I ever claimed that Madara can use all the techniques: I proved to you that Madara can use more than one Rin'negan ability because you initially moaned that Limbo was the only ability he could use. ​

Then you've done nothing but waste my time with this point. :lol

None of that negates the fact that Kakashi could have used Kamui during the Deva fight, could have used it to take thefight, could have used it to evade death all together but didn't. Initially you claimed that RT not using Chibaku Tensei and only using it until after gaining the Second Rin'engan must mean he didn't have the jutsu and that's fallacious. ​

Irrelevant for reasons already explained. He didn't need it until he was in the position where he was supposed to die, so he'd have no reason to jump to Kamui. Madara had every reason to use more offensive Ninjutsu against the guys who were pressuring him with only a few of their new abilities, but guess what:

He ran the fuck away. The bold is an oversimplification of my point. I mean, if you are going to cite me do it right. :lol

You never proved Limbo cannot negate it. First you tried to say that the Kyuubi's Bijuu Dama was heavier than the Kyuubi with a 4T TBV2 Naruto analogy and that failed. Second you tried to say that the Bijuu Dama were bigger than the Kyuubi and as big as Shin-Shuusenju's fists and that failed because that would mean Madara's Susano'o blades grew many times larger. Thridly, you tried to say the size of the sword changed but that failed because based on what was shown in the manga [

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] your idea says the blades are 2 times larger than the Bijuu Dama that are larger than the Kyuubi which goes from 100->0 considering the fact we've already seen the blades compared to the size of the Kyuubi in the Manga:

I've already addressed these points. Summarizing them isn't going to magically make them vanish so you don't need to address them.

-Already posted a link showing the full size of Madara's blade. Far larger than what he was using to equip those Bijuu Dama.
-Already showed scans of BD=SS's hands in size.
-Already showed proof that the explosion couldn't have been from 12 ordinary Bijuu Dama, but of course being unable to read the Manga properly you write off the majority of that blast as dust, even though what you show in one panel as dust, and what I show in 2 panels as an explosion look very different. But keep ignoring evidence Waltz.

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I'll remind you once more: You have absolutely no proof or any scan of Madara altering the size of Perfect Susano-o's blades. There are no feats backing your statements, only poor logic.

I'll remind you once more: A scan proving you wrong as already been posted. Madara's blades can extend larger, and if his BD got larger than his sword got larger. End of story.

He already replicated that quantity at once, that's what the Manga shows: all the Bijuu being repelled at the same time. @Bold: Why are you even talking about power when that was never apart of the discussion? I already told you that Kisame can replicate it with regular water because it's made out of regular water and all he has to do is match the quantity just as how Hashirama could create an entire forest without doing an actual jutsu all he has to do is continue pumping chakra to make his Mokuton grow to into a forest. It's pretty m uch evident that you're not even in awares that KKG users can use their KKG without performing actual Jutsu (Mu, Yamato is an example) just as Elemental users can utilize their elements without performing actual jutsu and if they channel more chakra into it the quantity would increase. ​

-The Manga shows them being repelled one after another.
-He didn't replicate any quantity at once without using a jutsu that let him do that. Thus Madara isn't making Mokujin or Hotei level Mokuton without being able to use Mokuton. Not sure why you keep repeating this same idiotic point. Kisame's suiton is irrelevant. Quantity is the only factor for him, but not for Madara since the wood still needs to be as dense as what can hold Kurama. The bolded, of course, is you pulling more nonsense out of your ass considering the Manga has never shown any of this.
-The underlined is an idiotic point to make since no one argued that Hashirama/Madara can't use their KKG w/o using jutsu. The argument is that they can't make it as powerful as a jutsu without using the actual jutsu first. Please get some evidence because God knows I don't want to hear your explanations.

How Ironic. There are only 5 elemental nature transformation's, Mokuton isn't one. So calling it an element as Fire is a element is as dumb as calling a the end product of blending an apple and an orange together a fruit. ​

No you idiot. There are 5 BASIC NATURE TRANSFORMATIONS. Mokuton is a nature transformation, it just isn't basic.

Here's why: You tried to compare Adult Sasuke's inferior Katon jutsu to Obito's superior Kation jutsu to make an analogy between that and Hashirama's Mokuton jutsu and RT Madara's mokuton Jutsu. The difference here is that Madara is using Hashirama's Jutsu where as Sasuke and Obito are not only using their own respective Katon jutsu but they're different level's of jutsu which makes the point you were trying to make, pointless.@ Bold: I already showed you Madara is able to increase the Density and quantity of his Mokuton and he will do so until it rival's that of Hotei.​

Lol this is how I know that you don't read before you reply. That comparison shows that Sasuke can't use Obito's level of Katon without knowing the jutsu first. Madara can't use Mokujin level Mokuton without using the jutsu. It can't be simplified any further than that and anyone who isn't an illiterate would be able to understand it.

-Is Madara using Hashirama's Jutsu? No you tard. Because you've yet to actually show that he can use the jutsu which is exactly why you are claiming he uses generic Mokuton on par with Mokujin instead of just using Hotei or Mokujin.

-And no, you've shown nothing. You've shown that Madara using a Mokuton Jutsu can create a forest that dense. You've yet to show that he can do this without actually using a jutsu. Do I need to bold this text and size it up before you stop repeating the same BS? In fact:

You've yet to show that he can do this without actually using a jutsu.

@Underlined: If the Jutsu is made of the same substance as the genetic Material then the genetic Material can be used to rival or produce the actual Jutsu. Why do you think Suiton users don't have to make water if they are already fighting on water?

Nope. A statement of your opinion isn't evidence. Suiton users are 100% irrelevant since they only need to worry about quantity and not quality, and them being able to control existing water doesn't mean that Madara can grow his Mokuton to match Hotei without knowing Hotei first.

@Red: Makes no sense. People stronger than Obito replicating his level of katon Jutsu without actually know the jutsu is just like saying Kisame replicating the quantity of a Suiton Jutsu belonging to Zabuza that Kisame does not know. How does a stronger Shinobi producing an element to the same quantity of a jutsu of the same element produced by a weaker shinobi support what you're failing to and cannot prove: That Madara cannot condense his Mokuton to Hotei's level.

Now I gotta teach this sheep more physics. Throw 3 tennis balls into the air one after the other and I guarantee you there will be a point when all three of them are in line with one another. The Bijuu-dama would slowly decelerate in the air and those fired first will slow down first giving those fired last time to catch up until eventually they would all be at roughly the same place. ​

:lol Throw 3 tennis balls into the air one after the other at the same rate and there will never be a point where they are in line with each other. If ball 1 moves 5 ft in a second, by the time ball 2 has been fired at the same rate at the same exact intervals ball 1 would've reached it's high point and started to descend, forward, not backward. There would never be a moment when they are grouped together like shown in those scans.

And then we have the fact that a fired Bijuu Dama would go all the way up to it's high point, and then descend. It wouldn't start to ****ing fall backwards nor would it slow down before getting anywhere near it's high point. Bijuu Dama can cross an ocean in a matter of seconds. SS and PS Kurama were practically right in front of each other. Those BD didn't even come close to reaching their high point so there's no reason why they'd slow down.

The only thing you've done is try to counter my post and you've been failing each time and still waiting for you to let us know how VoTE Madara win's. ​

Anyone who has the will to sift through your bullshit knows how wrong you are. :lol

Wrong again: it was moving downwards, him needing to change it's trajectory should make that obvious to you but then again, you're mulish and adelepathed:

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If he jumped to the side it would have crashed where he previously was and he'd have been caught in the blast and don't try to sugarcoat your argument by adding great enough distance.

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Except the scan next to it shows that it's going forward. :lol Not relevant anyway since being slower than Limbo is something we already knew.

The Kyuubi isn't just it's main body, its the main body and the tails and it picking up the Kyuubi doesn't mean it's hand is as big as the Kyuubi just as picking up a cat doesn't mean your hand is as big as the cat. Did unorthodox teach you how to debate? ​

Stop being a idiot for one second my little troll. No shit that the Kyuubi is the tails and the body. But I never said that the hand was as big as the Kyuubi. I said it was as big as the Kyuubi's main body. Just like the hands. :lol Unorthodox definitely didn't teach me how to debate, but he definitely taught your dumbass how to read.

And no, picking up a cat doesn't make you as big as the cat, but considering the Manga has already shown the hands and the body of the Kyuubi to be in the same size group your example is just as idiotic as 99% of the things you post on this site.

They are smaller than the Kyuubi and we've already seen how those Bijuu-Dama are created. There's no panel of the Kyuubi making them bigger and don't try to bring back the whole "They were as big as SSS's arm's" argument because i already told you that the Manga drawing scale is crap and some of those Bijuu-Dama were drawn to be as big as SSS's whole head:

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When we all know that Perfect Susasno'o's swords are smaller than the Mokujin that was atop the head and by your baseless "max sword length" assumption, that would made Madara's swords 2-4+ times the size of the Susano'o itself and both of our scans; meaning, not only did I but you also proved yourself wrong because the size of the swords length's in the scan's we both provided negates this craziness you're asking me to believe.​

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No, PS's swords at full length are over or near half as tall as Madara's full sized Susanoo, which is far larger than Hashirama's Mokujin if Senjutsu isn't amplifying it. So of course and as expected, the bold makes zero sense.

The blades can't be irrelevant if they're apart of Madara's attack clown and the Arm's smashing into the Kyuubi [

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And what you see there is dust. What is shown in the panel I posted is an explosion just like the explosion Naruto's BD made when it crashed into Obito's shield. Nothing more to argue here because only an idiot wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

In the Itachi Scenario we saw what itachi did and how it happened. It was in a successions as one head was chopped after another. The number of heads that fell on the ground simultaneously was the same number of heads that got repelled above the shield, 5. In Madara'situation we did not see what Limbo did but it affected the Bijuu at the same time and they all fell at the same time. ​

Irrelevant. That doesn't change anything being said here. You think that them hitting the ground at the same time is proof he hit them all at once even though Itachi can do the opposite and still have his targets hit the ground at the same time. You can keep on crying about how Limbo wasn't seen but it doesn't change the fact that your only argument is garbage just like everything else in this post. At least almost everything.

-Says "hit ground at same time, thus he hit them at the same time"
-Itachi doesn't hit his targets at the same time but makes them all hit the ground at once.
-The troll says that it doesnt' count.
-Says it doesn't count because "we didn't see Limbo, and because Madara affected them at the same time", even though the last part is pretty much circular reasoning.

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The author having different panels of each Bijuu being hit doesn't mean they were hit in succession

That's exactly what it means. That's how the reading and comprehension of Manga panels works. What happens on the panel before happened first. Simple logic.

because if they were hit in succession they wouldn't all fall at the same time.

Already cited an example where targets hit the ground at once despite not being hit collectively.

You still don't have any proof that they were hit in succession. ]

I've provided more than enough.

-The panels are shown one after another. Meaning those events happened separately. That's how you read Manga.
-Your counter argument is null because of Itachi.

All you can do at this point is resort to trollish tactics and simply ignore all forms of counter evidence, say they don't count and then repeat your claim with evidence that isn't even really evidence. Then we have the fact that you are ignoring how the Manga is read, with literally no reasoning why. :lol Joke posters gonna post. Trolls gonna troll. Might have to ignore you sooner than later. :lol​

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[Waltz]

That desperate to get proved wrong huh?



Then you've done nothing but waste my time with this point. :lol



Irrelevant for reasons already explained. He didn't need it until he was in the position where he was supposed to die, so he'd have no reason to jump to Kamui. Madara had every reason to use more offensive Ninjutsu against the guys who were pressuring him with only a few of their new abilities, but guess what:

He ran the fuck away. The bold is an oversimplification of my point. I mean, if you are going to cite me do it right. :lol



I've already addressed these points. Summarizing them isn't going to magically make them vanish so you don't need to address them.

-Already posted a link showing the full size of Madara's blade. Far larger than what he was using to equip those Bijuu Dama.
-Already showed scans of BD=SS's hands in size.
-Already showed proof that the explosion couldn't have been from 12 ordinary Bijuu Dama, but of course being unable to read the Manga properly you write off the majority of that blast as dust, even though what you show in one panel as dust, and what I show in 2 panels as an explosion look very different. But keep ignoring evidence Waltz.


I'll remind you once more: A scan proving you wrong as already been posted. Madara's blades can extend larger, and if his BD got larger than his sword got larger. End of story.





-The Manga shows them being repelled one after another.
-He didn't replicate any quantity at once without using a jutsu that let him do that. Thus Madara isn't making Mokujin or Hotei level Mokuton without being able to use Mokuton. Not sure why you keep repeating this same idiotic point. Kisame's suiton is irrelevant. Quantity is the only factor for him, but not for Madara since the wood still needs to be as dense as what can hold Kurama. The bolded, of course, is you pulling more nonsense out of your ass considering the Manga has never shown any of this.
-The underlined is an idiotic point to make since no one argued that Hashirama/Madara can't use their KKG w/o using jutsu. The argument is that they can't make it as powerful as a jutsu without using the actual jutsu first. Please get some evidence because God knows I don't want to hear your explanations.





No you idiot. There are 5 BASIC NATURE TRANSFORMATIONS. Mokuton is a nature transformation, it just isn't basic.




Lol this is how I know that you don't read before you reply. That comparison shows that Sasuke can't use Obito's level of Katon without knowing the jutsu first. Madara can't use Mokujin level Mokuton without using the jutsu. It can't be simplified any further than that and anyone who isn't an illiterate would be able to understand it.

-Is Madara using Hashirama's Jutsu? No you tard. Because you've yet to actually show that he can use the jutsu which is exactly why you are claiming he uses generic Mokuton on par with Mokujin instead of just using Hotei or Mokujin.

-And no, you've shown nothing. You've shown that Madara using a Mokuton Jutsu can create a forest that dense. You've yet to show that he can do this without actually using a jutsu. Do I need to bold this text and size it up before you stop repeating the same BS? In fact:

You've yet to show that he can do this without actually using a jutsu.





Nope. A statement of your opinion isn't evidence. Suiton users are 100% irrelevant since they only need to worry about quantity and not quality, and them being able to control existing water doesn't mean that Madara can grow his Mokuton to match Hotei without knowing Hotei first.






:lol Throw 3 tennis balls into the air one after the other at the same rate and there will never be a point where they are in line with each other. If ball 1 moves 5 ft in a second, by the time ball 2 has been fired at the same rate at the same exact intervals ball 1 would've reached it's high point and started to descend, forward, not backward. There would never be a moment when they are grouped together like shown in those scans.

And then we have the fact that a fired Bijuu Dama would go all the way up to it's high point, and then descend. It wouldn't start to ****ing fall backwards nor would it slow down before getting anywhere near it's high point. Bijuu Dama can cross an ocean in a matter of seconds. SS and PS Kurama were practically right in front of each other. Those BD didn't even come close to reaching their high point so there's no reason why they'd slow down.



Anyone who has the will to sift through your bullshit knows how wrong you are. :lol



Except the scan next to it shows that it's going forward. :lol Not relevant anyway since being slower than Limbo is something we already knew.





Stop being a idiot for one second my little troll. No shit that the Kyuubi is the tails and the body. But I never said that the hand was as big as the Kyuubi. I said it was as big as the Kyuubi's main body. Just like the hands. :lol Unorthodox definitely didn't teach me how to debate, but he definitely taught your dumbass how to read.

And no, picking up a cat doesn't make you as big as the cat, but considering the Manga has already shown the hands and the body of the Kyuubi to be in the same size group your example is just as idiotic as 99% of the things you post on this site.


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No, PS's swords at full length are over or near half as tall as Madara's full sized Susanoo, which is far larger than Hashirama's Mokujin if Senjutsu isn't amplifying it. So of course and as expected, the bold makes zero sense.





And what you see there is dust. What is shown in the panel I posted is an explosion just like the explosion Naruto's BD made when it crashed into Obito's shield. Nothing more to argue here because only an idiot wouldn't be able to tell the difference.





Irrelevant. That doesn't change anything being said here. You think that them hitting the ground at the same time is proof he hit them all at once even though Itachi can do the opposite and still have his targets hit the ground at the same time. You can keep on crying about how Limbo wasn't seen but it doesn't change the fact that your only argument is garbage just like everything else in this post. At least almost everything.

-Says "hit ground at same time, thus he hit them at the same time"
-Itachi doesn't hit his targets at the same time but makes them all hit the ground at once.
-The troll says that it doesnt' count.
-Says it doesn't count because "we didn't see Limbo, and because Madara affected them at the same time", even though the last part is pretty much circular reasoning.

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That's exactly what it means. That's how the reading and comprehension of Manga panels works. What happens on the panel before happened first. Simple logic.



Already cited an example where targets hit the ground at once despite not being hit collectively.



I've provided more than enough.

-The panels are shown one after another. Meaning those events happened separately. That's how you read Manga.
-Your counter argument is null because of Itachi.

All you can do at this point is resort to trollish tactics and simply ignore all forms of counter evidence, say they don't count and then repeat your claim with evidence that isn't even really evidence. Then we have the fact that you are ignoring how the Manga is read, with literally no reasoning why. :lol Joke posters gonna post. Trolls gonna troll. Might have to ignore you sooner than later. :lol

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[KidGamer65]

Yes, I am. And it really took all this nonsense for you to simply concede. :lol Jesus fucking christ dude.