V1 Jubi Obito vs Sage Mode Madara

[Trollasaur]

Not seeing how Obito gets past Perfect Susanoo enhanced by Senjutsu.

-He can't negate it due to it being fused with Senjutsu.

-He can't break it with force since any form of Bijuu Dama is restricted.

-Madara is about to control Hashirama so he can stop Obito, meaning Hashirama's Senjutsu attacks can hurt Obito.

Um Bijju dama isn't restricted

Jubi Bijju Dama takes that shit down

He can break it with force

Yes Wow, Madara can now hurt Obito, but can he beat him/

I highly doubt it.

nvm Bijju dama is restricted I guess I was talking about his dust release thing lel

 

[KidGamer65]

Um Bijju dama isn't restricted

Jubi Bijju Dama takes that shit down

He can break it with force

Yes Wow, Madara can now hurt Obito, but can he beat him/

I highly doubt it.

This is hypothetical.

Just remove all the feats/moves you saw in V2, and give him the edo destroyer, and make it so Obito is in control.

Juubidama was a feat he used in his V2 form, not his V1 form, so according to you he doesn't get it so he isn't breaking PS. You are going to need a feat strength better than ripping through the weakest level of Susanoo if you want me to believe that he can break PS with force alone.

Madara w/ Senjutsu can beat V1 Juubito simply because he's strong enough to do so, V1 Juubito only has Onmyoudon and speed, Senjutsu makes Onmyoudon useless, all he has left his speed, Madara has deadly AoE attacks that are fueled by Senjutsu in this scenario. Do the math.

With Obito restricted like this, Hashirama can beat him, BSM Naruto can also beat him, since they both use Senjutsu and are strong enough to overpower Obito in this state.

 

[Trollasaur]

Juubidama was a feat he used in his V2 form, not his V1 form, so according to you he doesn't get it so he isn't breaking PS. You are going to need a feat strength better than ripping through the weakest level of Susanoo if you want me to believe that he can break PS with force alone.

Madara w/ Senjutsu can beat V1 Juubito simply because he's strong enough to do so, V1 Juubito only has Onmyoudon and speed, Senjutsu makes Onmyoudon useless, all he has left his speed, Madara has deadly AoE attacks that are fueled by Senjutsu in this scenario. Do the math.

With Obito restricted like this, Hashirama can beat him, BSM Naruto can also beat him, since they both use Senjutsu and are strong enough to overpower Obito in this state.

I noticed my mistake lel, tell me how senjutsu neglects the affects of Obitos dust release style tech

pl0x

 

[KidGamer65]

I noticed my mistake lel, tell me how senjutsu neglects the affects of Obitos dust release style tech

pl0x

Look what Tobirama said.

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[Trollasaur]

Look what Tobirama said.

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I thought you meant that Obitos attacks wont work because Madara has senjutsu, by the way Im thinking atm I believe that his attacks will still work on Madara, his jutsu just wont get erased, get what Im saying?

If I'm looking at the scan correctly, Obitos dust release thing still tanked the senjutsu it just didn't eat it up.

But If you convince Obitos attacks are indeed useless then I will admit that Madara has a chance at winning this.

If he starts in susano'o atleast with senjutsu mixed.

 

[KidGamer65]

I thought you meant that Obitos attacks wont work because Madara has senjutsu, by the way Im thinking atm I believe that his attacks will still work on Madara, his jutsu just wont get erased, get what Im saying?

That's what I meant. As you can see Gamakichi's attack wasn't erased by Obito's Onmyoudon and the process of destroying it was much slower than it should be, cause its Senjutsu.

A Bijuu sized Rasengan almost smashed through Obito's Onmyoudon,

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due to Senjutsu, and it was strong enough to crack it.

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. PS enhanced by Senjutsu would rip that apart.

Obito attacks and defends with the same thing, so if he couldn't negate it when he blocked the attack, he won't be able to negate it when he tries to attack either.

 

[Trollasaur]

That's what I meant. As you can see Gamakichi's attack wasn't erased by Obito's Onmyoudon and the process of destroying it was much slower than it should be, cause its Senjutsu.

A Bijuu sized Rasengan almost smashed through Obito's Onmyoudon,

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due to Senjutsu, and it was strong enough to crack it.

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. PS enhanced by Senjutsu would rip that apart.

Obito attacks and defends with the same thing, so if he couldn't negate it when he blocked the attack, he won't be able to negate it when he tries to attack either.

the way I'm looking at this in all honesty, Is the Dust release thing tanking but not erasing.

lel maybe I'm delusional or something but thats all I'm seeing, and how the hell would Obito not be wounded if these attacks actually hit him? Something that important would also consume panel time don't you think?

The dust style move must of tanked imo

 

[TheSages456]

this is a horrible stomp. a hypothetical sm madara would toy with V1 juubito.

onmyoudon is effortlessly tanked by PS.

obito cant break PS with pure power either.


one PS slash erases his existence.

 

[Trollasaur]

this is a horrible stomp. a hypothetical sm madara would toy with V1 juubito.

onmyoudon is effortlessly tanked by PS.

obito cant break PS with pure power either.


one PS slash erases his existence.

Not you too.

 

[TheSages456]

Not you too.

madara stated that he could stop V2 juubito in under 15 minutes with access to hermit power. what would make you think that an sm madara vs V1 juubito thread was balanced?

 

[Trollasaur]

madara stated that he could stop V2 juubito in under 15 minutes with access to hermit power. what would make you think that an sm madara vs V1 juubito thread was balanced?

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is that your arguement?

Damn Madara fanboys are worse than Hashirama fanboys.

 

[TheSages456]

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is that your arguement?

Damn Madara fanboys are worse than Hashirama fanboys.

thats not my only argument. as i said before, V1 juubito cannot competently fight madara since he has no large scale techs and cannot negate madaras techniques. all of madara grand scale techniques are senjutsu which is juubitos weakness.

a PS slash is thousands of times stronger than sm narutos rasengan which left a gaping hole in juubitos back.

 

[Trollasaur]

thats not my only argument. as i said before, V1 juubito cannot competently fight madara since he has no large scale techs and cannot negate madaras techniques. all of madara grand scale techniques are senjutsu which is juubitos weakness.

a PS slash is thousands of times stronger than sm narutos rasengan which left a gaping hole in juubitos back.

Sage mode is not his weakness, it's the only thing that works on him and this

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[TheSages456]

Sage mode is not his weakness, it's the only thing that works on him and this

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the viz-

Obito: "I can't believe Ten Tails Jinchuriki has such a weakness.
And with the Ten Tails inside me, I can't pass through things either. What a bother."

the ten tails jin is weak to senjutsu as stated by the ten tails jinchuriki himself. its just that simple. hashiramas gates are a restraining technique, not a real offensive move.

 

[KidGamer65]

the way I'm looking at this in all honesty, Is the Dust release thing tanking but not erasing.

lel maybe I'm delusional or something but thats all I'm seeing, and how the hell would Obito not be wounded if these attacks actually hit him? Something that important would also consume panel time don't you think?

The dust style move must of tanked imo

Yes, you are right, its strong enough to protect from those attacks but it isn't negating them. A Large Rasengan caused the Onmyoudon to crack, PS's blade would effortlessly bisect it when amped by Senjutsu.

My point was to show it can still protect from attacks but it can't negate them, so it works as a normal shield.

Obito loses.

 

[Awkward Linguist]

Edo Madara wins this.

Obito lacks the black Orbs to actually kill Madara. He has no fire power like he did in V2, so its inferior to Madara's fire power.

Obito speed is countered by Madara gunbai.

Not to mention that SM is his weakness, so Madara goes to PS and finishes him off.

Couldn't have said better.

But I think Obito has a chance.

 

[stoikis]

the viz-

Obito: "I can't believe Ten Tails Jinchuriki has such a weakness.
And with the Ten Tails inside me, I can't pass through things either. What a bother."

the ten tails jin is weak to senjutsu as stated by the ten tails jinchuriki himself. its just that simple. hashiramas gates are a restraining technique, not a real offensive move.

what so obito can't use kamui ?

 

[Trollasaur]

the viz-

Obito: "I can't believe Ten Tails Jinchuriki has such a weakness.
And with the Ten Tails inside me, I can't pass through things either. What a bother."

the ten tails jin is weak to senjutsu as stated by the ten tails jinchuriki himself. its just that simple. hashiramas gates are a restraining technique, not a real offensive move.

I don't get how it's a weakness when it's the only thing that can hurt him and he has tanked sage mode techs better than average people, it's not a weakness at all imo

Yes, you are right, its strong enough to protect from those attacks but it isn't negating them. A Large Rasengan caused the Onmyoudon to crack, PS's blade would effortlessly bisect it when amped by Senjutsu.

My point was to show it can still protect from attacks but it can't negate them, so it works as a normal shield.

Obito loses.

Why would he loose, and I don't remember rasengan cracking it.

I don't see Madaras slash hitting Obito either, when he can fly and be the ground itself, and when he's the fastest character in the manga excluding ftg.

Couldn't have said better.

But I think Obito has a chance.

Not trying to sound rude here but, I can't take you or Madara rules seriously atm, I already countured all he had to say aswell.

 

[BlackFlame44]

Sage Mode Madara doesn't exist yet


Let's wait till he shows feats or else we can only speculate

Which leads to wank

Like sir madara rules is demonstrating

Sage mode is not his weakness, it's the only thing that works on him and this

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Yet he tanked rasenshuriken didn't he?

It's like hitting luffy with a bullet made of sea stone

 

[NewKageism]

sage mode Madara? Really when?

Are we making stuff up guys.