V1 Jubi Obito vs Sage Mode Madara

[Trollasaur]

No, he can't. Onmyoudon can't damage Senjutsu as shown multiple times in the manga, if it could it would have disintegrated Sasuke's Susanoo when it made contact just like when the Kunai made contact. Obito was using it defensively when the Kunai hit so your point about that is moot.

Obito doesn't have Bijuu Dama in his V1 form. He only has Onmyoudon, which is not the same as Bijuu Dama at all.

Have you not read the OP at all?

What part of Obitos jubidama having erasing everything else but senjutsu don't you get?



It can still damage it, untill I see actual scans of a statment saying senjutsu negates Obitos attacks completly I'm not buying this horse shit.

I'm not convinced by what you're saying and I can't convince you.

So I'm done here, theres no point in continuing.


Lel I'm done

 

[KidGamer65]

Have you not read the OP at all?

What part of Obitos jubidama having erasing everything else but senjutsu don't you get?



It can still damage it, untill I see actual scans of a statment saying senjutsu negates Obitos attacks completly I'm not buying this horse shit.

I'm not convinced by what you're saying and I can't convince you.

So I'm done here, theres no point in continuing.


Lel I'm done

Manga disagrees. The only horseshit here is the bullshit that you've been spouting this whole discussion. Onmyoudon doesn't damage Senjutsu, it didn't damage the Rasengan and it didn't damage BM Naruto's cloak nor did it damage Sasuke's Susanoo blade when the made contact. I've shown a scan that shows the bold so I don't need to provide a statement.

Keep on disagreeing with scans though. I couldn't care less.

 

[Trollasaur]

Manga disagrees. The only horseshit here is the bullshit that you've been spouting this whole discussion. Onmyoudon doesn't damage Senjutsu, it didn't damage the Rasengan and it didn't damage BM Naruto's cloak nor did it damage Sasuke's Susanoo blade when the made contact. I've shown a scan that shows the bold so I don't need to provide a statement.

Keep on disagreeing with scans though. I couldn't care less.

Okay keep thinking that Madara can tank Jubidama with senjutsu infused susanoo
That's basically what you're telling me.

whatever helps you sleep at night.

 

[KidGamer65]

Okay keep thinking that Madara can tank Jubidama with senjutsu infused susanoo
That's basically what you're telling me.

whatever helps you sleep at night.

I said he can tank Onmyoudon. You can't read anymore? Apparently not. I don't know if you realized this but Juubidama>>>>>>>>>>>>>Onymoudon bombs. Show me an Onymoudon bomb doing

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and then what you are saying won't be an absolute load of garbage.

lmao, this is why I don't like discussing with illiterates who can't read the manga.

 

[Trollasaur]

I said he can tank Onmyoudon. You can't read anymore? Apparently not. I don't know if you realized this but Juubidama>>>>>>>>>>>>>Onymoudon bombs. Show me an Onymoudon bomb doing

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and then what you are saying won't be an absolute load of garbage.

lmao, this is why I don't like discussing with illiterates who can't read the manga.

And I said that I consider Jubidama and his dust release thing the same thing multiple times and we debated from that, I said that Jubidama does anything that a bijjudama does plus the perk of erasing..

You lack decent reading comprehension

His dust thing is the equivilant of mini tbb from Naruto

 

[KidGamer65]

And I said that I consider Jubidama and his dust release thing the same thing multiple times and we debated from that..

Fact disagrees with what you consider, regardless, Onmyoudon is tanked as it can't do anything to Senjutsu, that is a manga fact shown twice now, whether you can deal with that or not doesn't really matter to me.

 

[Trollasaur]

Fact disagrees with what you consider, regardless, Onmyoudon is tanked as it can't do anything to Senjutsu, that is a manga fact shown twice now, whether you can deal with that or not doesn't really matter to me.

Not a fact at all, All your scans show are Dust release tanking senjutsu attacks and not erasing.

The part about senjutsu purely being imune to it is speculation.

For what it's worth it's logical to think so as well but I don't agree.

 

[KidGamer65]

Not a fact at all, All your scans show are Dust release tanking senjutsu attacks and not erasing.

The part about senjutsu purely being imune to it is speculation.

For what it's worth it's logical to think so as well but I don't agree.

You think that it being used defensively makes it so that it doesn't disintegrate things even though I already posted a scan of him blocking Minato's Kunai (A defensive action) and then the Kunai being cut in half, merely from Obito defending himself. Senjutsu Susanoo made contact and was still in tact.

-Kunai hits it, it is broken.

-Senjutsu Susanoo hits it, its not phased.

Result? Senjutsu can't be negated or destroyed by Onmyoudon in any way shape or form.

 

[Trollasaur]

You think that it being used defensively makes it so that it doesn't disintegrate things even though I already posted a scan of him blocking Minato's Kunai (A defensive action) and then the Kunai being cut in half, merely from Obito defending himself. Senjutsu Susanoo made contact and was still in tact.

-Kunai hits it, it is broken.

-Senjutsu Susanoo hits it, its not phased.

Result? Senjutsu can't be negated or destroyed by Onmyoudon in any way shape or form.

Whatever like I said I'm done lel

going off but what your saying to me 20 Jubi loose to Madara with senjutsu susanoo because the Jubi(s) can't hurt it.

Sounds legit.

Also he used his staff to cut it, not a defensice action at all.

 

[KidGamer65]

Whatever like I said I'm done lel

going off but what your saying to me 20 Jubi loose to Madara with senjutsu susanoo because the Jubi(s) can't hurt it.

Sounds legit.

Also he used his staff to cut it, not a defensice action at all.

The Juubi doesn't use Onmyoudon, it uses Bijuu Dama which can effortlessly break PS. Those aren't Onmyoudon so they will rape Susanoo whether its Senjutsu or not. If you are going to try and make comparison to make my argument look dumb, make sure they make sense first.

Read the manga, Minato attacked and Obito blocked.

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If Obito is the one who attacked, his staff would have been moving past the Kunai and toward Minato in the second panel, but it wasn't so you're wrong.

It doesn't even matter how its used cause it retains the same ability.

 

[Trollasaur]

The Juubi doesn't use Onmyoudon, it uses Bijuu Dama which can effortlessly break PS. Those aren't Onmyoudon so they will rape Susanoo whether its Senjutsu or not. If you are going to try and make comparison to make my argument look dumb, make sure they make sense first.

Read the manga, Minato attacked and Obito blocked.

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If Obito is the one who attacked, his staff would have been moving past the Kunai and toward Minato in the second panel, but it wasn't so you're wrong.

It doesn't even matter how its used cause it retains the same ability.

Jesus christ for the billionth time were saying here that the dust release and bijju dama are the same jutsu!

Why do I keep replying? U_U

 

[KidGamer65]

Jesus christ for the billionth time were saying here that the dust release and bijju dama are the same jutsu!

When you bring the Juubi into this, no, they are not the same jutsu at all. I don't care what you believe cause what you believe is wrong.

Juubi uses bijuu dama

Obito uses Onmyoudon.

NOT the same thing.

 

[Trollasaur]

When you bring the Juubi into this, no, they are not the same jutsu at all. I don't care what you believe cause what you believe is wrong.

Juubi uses bijuu dama

Obito uses Onmyoudon.

NOT the same thing.

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In this scenario were saying that they are the same thing, if you don't want to debate this here is the door

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and leave

 

[KidGamer65]

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In this scenario were saying that they are the same thing, if you don't want to debate this here is the door

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and leave

That makes zero sense. Fact is, Obito was restricted to V1 feats, so no kind of Bijuu Dama is usable, meaning he only has Onmyoudon. Giving Obito access to Bijuu Dama now is pretty much saying that you know he loses so you have to unrestricted his move.


You say Onmyoudon and Bijuu Dama are the same for this scenario but then say Bijuu Dama is restricted? Its clear that you have no clue what you are even talking about at this point. I suggest you do what you said you were going to do and leave before you make yourself look even more of a moron than you already do.

 

[Trollasaur]

That makes zero sense. Fact is, Obito was restricted to V1 feats, so no kind of Bijuu Dama is usable, meaning he only has Onmyoudon. Giving Obito access to Bijuu Dama now is pretty much saying that you know he loses so you have to unrestricted his move.


You say Onmyoudon and Bijuu Dama are the same for this scenario but then say Bijuu Dama is restricted? Its clear that you have no clue what you are even talking about at this point. I suggest you do what you said you were going to do and leave before you make yourself look even more of a moron than you already do.

Holy shit, I'm convinced your autistic to a degree.

How many times do I have to repeat myself?

I also said that I forgot certain things, that Obito had used Bijju Dama in V1 then I later said that I thought they were pretty much made out of the same material.


REad the damn OP, Obito can use his V2 Bijju Dama/Dust thing.....

I believe that his Dust release thing is just the smaller version of Jubi dama like Mini tbb is to tbb

 

[KidGamer65]

Holy shit, I'm convince your autistic to a degree.

How many times do I have to repeat myself?

REad the damn OP, Obito can use his V2 Bijju Dama/Dust thing.....

Says the guy who pretty much doesn't even know what the hell he's talking about at this point. V2 Bijuu Dama is not the same as the Onmyoudon bombs. Your OP says he can use the Bijuu Bombs that negate Edo Regen, that is

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. Read the manga dumbass, read your own OP dumbass.

Intent Kill, Obito can control himself, and his Bijju Bomb dust release thing can stop edo tensei from regen​

You clearly included that because V1 Juubito didn't have this ability. Manga disagrees with your bullshit, your own OP disagrees with your bullshit.​

 

[Trollasaur]

Says the guy who pretty much doesn't even know what the hell he's talking about at this point. V2 Bijuu Dama is not the same as the Onmyoudon bombs. Your OP says he can use the Bijuu Bombs that negate Edo Regen, that is

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or

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. Read the manga dumbass, read your own OP dumbass.



You clearly included that because V1 Juubito didn't have this ability. Manga disagrees with your bullshit, your own OP disagrees with your bullshit.

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Here let me be more clear.


V1 Obito can't erase so I added in V2's Jubi dama because it can erase

I believe that Jubi dama and his dust release are the same thing, just that V1 can't erase with his.

So that's why I added his v2 form of the tech.

Without the V2 form of the tech, he would loose due to Madara constantly regenerating.

Can I get anymore clearer?

 

[KidGamer65]

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Here let me be more clear.


V1 Obito can't erase so I added in V2's Jubi dama because it can erase

I believe that Jubi dama and his dust release are the same thing, just that V1 can't erase with his.

So that's why I added his v2 form of the tech.

Without the V2 form of the tech, he would loose due to Madara constantly regenerating.

Can I get anymore clearer?

This is just ridiculous. There would be no confusion if you used the correct name for these damn techniques.

So you saying Juubidama refers to the Onmyoudon? Correct?

So you are basically saying that you restricted

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but let him get

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as that lets him do

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? Correct?

 

[Trollasaur]

This is just ridiculous. There would be no confusion if you used the correct name for these damn techniques.

So you saying Juubidama refers to the Onmyoudon? Correct?

So you are basically saying that you restricted

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but let him get

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as that lets him do

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? Correct?

Obito get's the ablity to erase with his bijju dama, can't do any new techs/feats or whatever you want to call it from v2 which includes the tree bijju dama.

 

[KidGamer65]

Obito get's the ablity to erase with his bijju dama, can't do any feats from v2 which includes the tree bijju dama.

That is exactly the premise we've been debating with this whole time, so what in the world is the confusion?