Uzumaki is the sage bloodline

[DeadManWonderLand]

The Uuzumaki and Senju were shown to be [relatives]the info of how they are specifically related is never mentioned although some taken a liken for them to be cousins which is impossible.In order to be cousins they must have a mother or father that is related to the others sibilings parents.Now what can you get from that ?Well if you cant figure it out it would imply that the sage had three descendants as you all know he only has two so them being cousins can be ruled out.


Now onto the photo of hashirama staniding next to the uzumaki clan leader.The Uzumaki clan leader is shown to be much older then hashi even though they are stated to have strong life forces and long gevity he still seems aged which means he had been around for quite some time this should make it obvious that the uzumaki clan leader is older then hashirama.So now we know both families are related and not because they are cousins and we also now know that one of the clan leaders clearly predates the other.So what should you get out of this ?Before i delve into that keep in mind that they are related and that they are not cousins for obvious reasons.If you somehow cannot understand this please re read the paragraph until you do.

Uzumaki-Special and unqiue chakra.Renowned funinjustu weilders.Able to subdue bijuu.Strong life force and vitality leading to long gevity.

Sage- Rinnegan-Strong and large pool of chakra.Was also known to be a priest.Used his Funinjustu to seal the ten tails inside his body.

Rinnegan is a progenitor gene in does not replicate when he gave birth to the senju and uchiha the dna was diluted it was gone forever.


Madara gained the senju dna and unlocked rinnegan.Anyone who has the rinnegan has both strands of dna.Madara started out as an uchiha aquired hashi's power during the fight gains rinngean later on.Obito started out as uchiha got hashi dna then was later seen with rinnegan.You must have both strands of dna to use rinnegan this is a fact.
except nagato who is an uzumaki.Now why can this uzumaki use the rinnegan without senju and and uchiha dna ?
If he was related to the senju (the uzumaki) by being cousins it would imply a third son like i said he obviously does not but it brings up a much better point.

So since the rinnegan is a prongentor cell and cannot divide the uchhiha and senju could not obtain it becaue they have unpure blood adding another unpure or shall i say not whole bloodline would do nothing to change that.If you think they they are cousins which implies a third son which is stupid in the first place would also have to understand 3 bloodlines that are the diluted versions of the original do not suddenly make the progenitor cell reappear.so there you have it two reasons why they cannot be cousins.IT WOULD IMPLY A THIRD SON AND NO MATTER HOW MUCH BLOODLINES YOU THROW IT CANNOT MAKE A PROGENITOR CELL COME BACK IT NEEDS THE FULL PURE BLOOD FOR THAT AND SINCE NAGATO CLEARLY DOES NOT HAVE UCHIHA DNA NOR SENJU DNA YOU CAN ONLY COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THE UZUMAKE IS THE ORIGINAL BLOODLINE.

 

[ekichi onizuka]

i believe it + rep

 

[rollin]

my theory was that the uzumaki's inherited the senju's life-force and the Uchiha's powerful chakra but not the eyes
and that's why they can handle the rinnegan

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[DeadManWonderLand]

here is the dumb stupid summary for the morons who might not get the above thread

its so simple even monkey can understand well no really but knowing that the rinnegan is a progenitor cell should make it super obvious by now pure blood = rinnegan.People with the rinnegan have both strands of dna if uzumaki were relatives of the senju by being cousins that would be another line of unpure blood but since we know nagato does not have uhchiha nor senju dna yet still can use the rinnegan (the progenitor cell) what does that tell you ? Anyone who refutes this go take up a biology course

 

[TheWillofFire]

The sage himself had two children later to be senju+uzumaki clans, and uchiha clan, all which is sage bloodline

 

[Itachishisui uchiha]

Why dont you except thap madara gave nagayto the rinnegan that piece of shit is nothing without rinnegan

 

[Naruto N. Uzumaki]

unless it's state which it isn't the uzumaki came from the senju and inherit the senju's body like the senju inherit the sage's body

sage > senju >> uzumaki

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

my theory was that the uzumaki's inherited the senju's life-force and the Uchiha's powerful chakra but not the eyes
and that's why they can handle the rinnegan

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everyone is entitled to their own theory but i am pretty sure you have the line up mixed up

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this is what the bloodline should look like if this theory of mine holds true and so far it does

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

unless it's state which it isn't the uzumaki came from the senju and inherit the senju's body like the senju inherit the sage's body

sage > senju >> uzumaki

No No No they were said to be relatives read the manga plz before you enter the conversation it is never stated that they are directed from the senju and when you learn the difference between being directed from and related you can understand the thoery

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Why dont you except thap madara gave nagayto the rinnegan that piece of shit is nothing without rinnegan

that has nothing to do with this post i know he gave him the rinnegan actaully read the thread before you post

 

[Retsu]

Uzumaki were already said to be distant relatives of the senju, so as far as them being an even more direct connection than uchiha or senju to the sage, I'd say that's a big no seeing as it goes against the whole elder and younger son feud

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Uzumaki were already said to be distant relatives of the senju, so as far as them being an even more direct connection than uchiha or senju to the sage, I'd say that's a big no seeing as it goes against the whole elder and younger son feud

it doesnt having them be relatives to the senju by any means other then them being the original bloodline messes up the fued because the sage only had two sons.knowing that the rinnegan is a progenitor cell should make it super obvious by now pure blood = rinnegan.People with the rinnegan have both strands of dna if uzumaki were relatives of the senju by being cousins that would be another line of unpure blood but since we know nagato does not have uhchiha nor senju dna yet still can use the rinnegan (the progenitor cell) what does that tell you ?It tells you nagato does not have unpure blood and since he does not have uchiha or the senju dna implanted in him it means he already has the requirments re read this post and look at this diagram it should be clear to you afterwards

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[Retsu]

it doesnt having them be relatives to the senju by any means other then them being the original bloodline messes up the fued because the sage only had two sons.knowing that the rinnegan is a progenitor cell should make it super obvious by now pure blood = rinnegan.People with the rinnegan have both strands of dna if uzumaki were relatives of the senju by being cousins that would be another line of unpure blood but since we know nagato does not have uhchiha nor senju dna yet still can use the rinnegan (the progenitor cell) what does that tell you ?It tells you nagato does not have unpure blood and since he does not have uchiha or the senju dna implanted in him it means he already has the requirments re read this post and look at this diagram it should be clear to you afterwards

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it's nice, but still makes no sense. I feel to come to that conclusion we'd have to know of hashirama, and Madara's relatives, and I would have to see the effects of rennigan implanted in senju, and ppl outside of the bloodline.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

it's nice, but still makes no sense. I feel to come to that conclusion we'd have to know of hashirama, and Madara's relatives, and I would have to see the effects of rennigan implanted in senju, and ppl outside of the bloodline.

ill try to make it a little more clearer.

The progenitor gene in this case is the rinnegan.
If the rinnegan cannot duplicate after the bloodine thins
then it means nobody can obtain it therefore nobody could
use it either since it needs someone to hold the pure bloodline to unlock it the first place.Now each time we saw someone with the rinnegan they had the combined dna of senju and uchiha.madara got his dna from the battle with hashi and obito got it from madara.Both accounts of the rinnegan the strands of both senju and uchiha became one again.We know the sage had the rinnegan so it comes to understanding that the blood is whole once both branches of the family reconnect.Nagato not being either uchiha nor senju was implanted the rinnegan but how does his body adept and take in the rinnegan without the proper strands of dna that make up the progenitor gene ?
It can only mean that bloodline is already secured within in him.

 

[Chatte]

I also believe that. Why? The basic thing that the Sage did was to seal the Juubi.
In what are Uzumakis specialized... Do I hear sealing techniques?

 

[julia maltellak]

ya that's true but he's also the fourth's son and he is the 6th hogogae

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

I also believe that. Why? The basic thing that the Sage did was to seal the Juubi.
In what are Uzumakis specialized... Do I hear sealing techniques?

I know there are also so many other tid bits like uzumaki have red hair the uchiha have red eyes red on the color spectrum it leads to purple and when you put the uchiha and senju traits together you get the uzumaki traits.The sage believed his younger son had the right way so naturally they would keep in touch as the senju ancestor thought peace was the right way to go so the clans kept the peace between them alive a.k.a the uzumaki and senju kept their close ties.the first was not alive during the first world war at that time the madara was alive and slowly plotting his revenge and in that time the uzumaki suddenly dissapear and then with his newly aquired dna madara unlocks the rinnegan and the not too shortly after during the second war he places the eyes into one of the remaining uzumaki nagato because he can no longer move about like use to after already living longer then should have and damn i wonder what type of clan lets you live really long ? lol

 

[Chatte]

I know there are also so many other tid bits like uzumaki have red hair the uchiha have red eyes red on the color spectrum it leads to purple and when you put the uchiha and senju traits together you get the uzumaki traits.The sage believed his younger son had the right way so naturally they would keep in touch as the senju ancestor thought peace was the right way to go so the clans kept the peace between them alive a.k.a the uzumaki and senju kept their close ties.the first was not alive during the first world war at that time the madara was alive and slowly plotting his revenge and in that time the uzumaki suddenly dissapear and then with his newly aquired dna madara unlocks the rinnegan and the not too shortly after during the second war he places the eyes into one of the remaining uzumaki nagato because he can no longer move about like use to after already living longer then should have and damn i wonder what type of clan lets you live really long ? lol

Yeah, that too. And dunno why I feel that the Sage will either have red hair or blonde like Naruto.
From what I've seen in the drawings it's blonde.
And most of the Senjus shown to us until now were blonde or light haired (Tsunade, Tobirama and Naruto who is somehow through his inheritance a Senju, Nawaki).
So I am pretty much sure he will turn out to be an Uzumaki.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Even with all this evidence and the fact that the rinnegan has been confirmed to be a progenitor gene which greatly reduces the number of people who can use the rinnegan flat out makes it very confusing as to why people do not see it clearly yet /:Eh when the time comes we can always laugh at everyone else for being so clueless and stupid lol

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

I think barley, they have some Sage lineage but really minimal compared to Senju and Uchiha after all they aren't direct descendants but distant relatives of Senju which really is almost nothing. But they have no Sage abilities/traits

And you came to this conclusion how ? did you bother to read the thread or anyone subsequent post there after ? No ? Then why even post at all i have no time for noobs and trolls who obviously have no idea what they are talking about look them up and then come join the conversation when you can back up your claims